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Lauren's parent have a lot to answer for !!!
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sleepypoodle
15-09-2013
Her selfish parents have been instrumental in ruining any chances of her living as an independent, relatively normal adult due to their obsession with exploiting her - firstly as a little boy, by her own admission she said that they lied about him being a child prodigy specialising in antiques and had actually coached him prior to his appearance on Wogan etc. to bluff his way through it....

...And then as an adult they have continued to exploit and capitalise from her transexuality by smothering and controlling a vulnerable and bewildered young transexual during her psychological and physical development...thrusting her into the hideous world of opportunistic, tabloidesque-voyeurism yet again which has filmed and recorded her transformation which should have been some of the most private and sensitive moments in her life.

Her own mother - masquerading as a 'counsellor' without a single credible or legal qualification took charge of her emotional and mental development during this incredibly precarious and developmentally crucial phase of her gender re-assignment and the result is an emotionally stunted, incredibly immature and unhealthily dependant psychological cripple who behaves like a child, has no friends and would be terrified and unspeakably vulnerable if her elderly parents were to die.

She is totally impractical, she cannot cook or clean up after herself and I wouldn't be surprised if she was hopeless with financial matters having never had to budget for herself, organise a mortgage, pay bills etc.
She lives like a teenage boy, seemingly oblivious to the squalor and chaos that she creates - leaving piles of dirty clothes strewn about, just dropping wet towels on her bed or the floor.

I am horrified that at thirty five she is still living with them as though she were a child because with their misguided, over-protective, emotionally suffocating presence, they have failed in their duties as parents to prepare her for adult life. They have neglected to equip her with the invaluable life skills at the most basic level.

The result - a socially inept, uneducated, emotionally immature, deluded, egocentric, with a sense of entitlement, a persecution complex, addicted to fame for fame's sake & too mentally & socially crippled to get a job or live by herself.
It's absolutely tragic...and embarrassing that once again the world has been privy to the inadequacies and shortcomings of this bizarre 'woman-child' which her parents are largely to blame for.
Jennyuk
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by sleepypoodle:
“Her selfish parents have been instrumental in ruining any chances of her living as an independent, relatively normal adult due to their obsession with exploiting her - firstly as a little boy, by her own admission she said that they lied about him being a child prodigy specialising in antiques and had actually coached him prior to his appearance on Wogan etc. to bluff his way through it....

...And then as an adult they have continued to exploit and capitalise from her transexuality by smothering and controlling a vulnerable and bewildered young transexual during her psychological and physical development...thrusting her into the hideous world of opportunistic, tabloidesque-voyeurism yet again which has filmed and recorded her transformation which should have been some of the most private and sensitive moments in her life.

Her own mother - masquerading as a 'counsellor' without a single credible or legal qualification took charge of her emotional and mental development during this incredibly precarious and developmentally crucial phase of her gender re-assignment and the result is an emotionally stunted, incredibly immature and unhealthily dependant psychological cripple who behaves like a child, has no friends and would be terrified and unspeakably vulnerable if her elderly parents were to die.

She is totally impractical, she cannot cook or clean up after herself and I wouldn't be surprised if she was hopeless with financial matters having never had to budget for herself, organise a mortgage, pay bills etc.
She lives like a teenage boy, seemingly oblivious to the squalor and chaos that she creates - leaving piles of dirty clothes strewn about, just dropping wet towels on her bed or the floor.

I am horrified that at thirty five she is still living with them as though she were a child because with their misguided, over-protective, emotionally suffocating presence, they have failed in their duties as parents to prepare her for adult life. They have neglected to equip her with the invaluable life skills at the most basic level.

The result - a socially inept, uneducated, emotionally immature, deluded, egocentric, with a sense of entitlement, a persecution complex, addicted to fame for fame's sake.& too mentally & socially crippled to get a job or live by herself.
It's absolutely tragic...and embarrassing that once again the world has been privy to the inadequacies and shortcomings as this bizarre 'woman-child' which her parents are largely to blame for.”

AMEN to that
Neil_Staton
15-09-2013
Its over, no one cares anymore.
honeythewitch
15-09-2013
Uneducated?
Heartache
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by sleepypoodle:
“Her selfish parents have been instrumental in ruining any chances of her living as an independent, relatively normal adult due to their obsession with exploiting her - firstly as a little boy, by her own admission she said that they lied about him being a child prodigy specialising in antiques and had actually coached him prior to his appearance on Wogan etc. to bluff his way through it....

...And then as an adult they have continued to exploit and capitalise from her transexuality by smothering and controlling a vulnerable and bewildered young transexual during her psychological and physical development...thrusting her into the hideous world of opportunistic, tabloidesque-voyeurism yet again which has filmed and recorded her transformation which should have been some of the most private and sensitive moments in her life.

Her own mother - masquerading as a 'counsellor' without a single credible or legal qualification took charge of her emotional and mental development during this incredibly precarious and developmentally crucial phase of her gender re-assignment and the result is an emotionally stunted, incredibly immature and unhealthily dependant psychological cripple who behaves like a child, has no friends and would be terrified and unspeakably vulnerable if her elderly parents were to die.

She is totally impractical, she cannot cook or clean up after herself and I wouldn't be surprised if she was hopeless with financial matters having never had to budget for herself, organise a mortgage, pay bills etc.
She lives like a teenage boy, seemingly oblivious to the squalor and chaos that she creates - leaving piles of dirty clothes strewn about, just dropping wet towels on her bed or the floor.

I am horrified that at thirty five she is still living with them as though she were a child because with their misguided, over-protective, emotionally suffocating presence, they have failed in their duties as parents to prepare her for adult life. They have neglected to equip her with the invaluable life skills at the most basic level.

The result - a socially inept, uneducated, emotionally immature, deluded, egocentric, with a sense of entitlement, a persecution complex, addicted to fame for fame's sake & too mentally & socially crippled to get a job or live by herself.
It's absolutely tragic...and embarrassing that once again the world has been privy to the inadequacies and shortcomings of this bizarre 'woman-child' which her parents are largely to blame for.
”

Agree with all of this, when she first popped up as a strange little boy, and it was revealed her parents faked qualifications, you would think someone in authority would take a look.
Wonder how many similar families exist out there,that have gone under the radar.
MiniMeToo
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Uneducated? ”

yes, I don't get that part either, she seems very intelligent to me.
Naina_Furlando
15-09-2013
I just hope some distant relative (which the family don't talk to anymore surprise surprise) can intervene at this stage and have a talk with Lauren. If she were my niece or cousin I would be extremely concerned for her regardless of my relationship with the parents
allie4
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by sleepypoodle:
“Her selfish parents have been instrumental in ruining any chances of her living as an independent, relatively normal adult due to their obsession with exploiting her - firstly as a little boy, by her own admission she said that they lied about him being a child prodigy specialising in antiques and had actually coached him prior to his appearance on Wogan etc. to bluff his way through it....

...And then as an adult they have continued to exploit and capitalise from her transexuality by smothering and controlling a vulnerable and bewildered young transexual during her psychological and physical development...thrusting her into the hideous world of opportunistic, tabloidesque-voyeurism yet again which has filmed and recorded her transformation which should have been some of the most private and sensitive moments in her life.

Her own mother - masquerading as a 'counsellor' without a single credible or legal qualification took charge of her emotional and mental development during this incredibly precarious and developmentally crucial phase of her gender re-assignment and the result is an emotionally stunted, incredibly immature and unhealthily dependant psychological cripple who behaves like a child, has no friends and would be terrified and unspeakably vulnerable if her elderly parents were to die.

She is totally impractical, she cannot cook or clean up after herself and I wouldn't be surprised if she was hopeless with financial matters having never had to budget for herself, organise a mortgage, pay bills etc.
She lives like a teenage boy, seemingly oblivious to the squalor and chaos that she creates - leaving piles of dirty clothes strewn about, just dropping wet towels on her bed or the floor.

I am horrified that at thirty five she is still living with them as though she were a child because with their misguided, over-protective, emotionally suffocating presence, they have failed in their duties as parents to prepare her for adult life. They have neglected to equip her with the invaluable life skills at the most basic level.

The result - a socially inept, uneducated, emotionally immature, deluded, egocentric, with a sense of entitlement, a persecution complex, addicted to fame for fame's sake & too mentally & socially crippled to get a job or live by herself.
It's absolutely tragic...and embarrassing that once again the world has been privy to the inadequacies and shortcomings of this bizarre 'woman-child' which her parents are largely to blame for.
”

Very well said. I agree 100% and have been saying that all along but you have put it so much better and you've put much more thought into it.
I wish a really good psychologist would intervene now and work on the whole family. They all seem deeply troubled people who need sorting out asap!!
Heartache
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Naina_Furlando:
“I just hope some distant relative (which the family don't talk to anymore surprise surprise) can intervene at this stage and have a talk with Lauren. If she were my niece or cousin I would be extremely concerned for her regardless of my relationship with the parents”

Maybe that's what happened, she mentioned Carol looking like her aunt "who we don't talk to". Lauren is so controlled and brainwashed by her family l doubt if anyone would get close enough.
maincoony
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by MiniMeToo:
“yes, I don't get that part either, she seems very intelligent to me.”

'Educated' and 'intelligent' are different things.
ScreamingTree<3
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by maincoony:
“'Educated' and 'intelligent' are different things.”

If she can read and write and articulate herself she's educated, she can do all of those.
Betty Britain
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Uneducated? ”

She stopped going to school at aged 11 (ish) I believe
muggins14
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Naina_Furlando:
“I just hope some distant relative (which the family don't talk to anymore surprise surprise) can intervene at this stage and have a talk with Lauren. If she were my niece or cousin I would be extremely concerned for her regardless of my relationship with the parents”

If you've seen Little Lady Fauntleroy you will know that the Harries family do not talk to any of their extended family members, although I wonder if it might be the other way around (that they extended family don't talk to the Harries!)

Also, with regard to Lauren living with her parents, if I recall correctly one of her brothers does too, although one seems to have flown the coop and is a stand-up comedian who travels around a lot.
muggins14
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by sleepypoodle:
“Her selfish parents have been instrumental in ruining any chances of her living as an independent, relatively normal adult due to their obsession with exploiting her - firstly as a little boy, by her own admission she said that they lied about him being a child prodigy specialising in antiques and had actually coached him prior to his appearance on Wogan etc. to bluff his way through it....

...And then as an adult they have continued to exploit and capitalise from her transexuality by smothering and controlling a vulnerable and bewildered young transexual during her psychological and physical development...thrusting her into the hideous world of opportunistic, tabloidesque-voyeurism yet again which has filmed and recorded her transformation which should have been some of the most private and sensitive moments in her life.

Her own mother - masquerading as a 'counsellor' without a single credible or legal qualification took charge of her emotional and mental development during this incredibly precarious and developmentally crucial phase of her gender re-assignment and the result is an emotionally stunted, incredibly immature and unhealthily dependant psychological cripple who behaves like a child, has no friends and would be terrified and unspeakably vulnerable if her elderly parents were to die.

She is totally impractical, she cannot cook or clean up after herself and I wouldn't be surprised if she was hopeless with financial matters having never had to budget for herself, organise a mortgage, pay bills etc.
She lives like a teenage boy, seemingly oblivious to the squalor and chaos that she creates - leaving piles of dirty clothes strewn about, just dropping wet towels on her bed or the floor.

I am horrified that at thirty five she is still living with them as though she were a child because with their misguided, over-protective, emotionally suffocating presence, they have failed in their duties as parents to prepare her for adult life. They have neglected to equip her with the invaluable life skills at the most basic level.

The result - a socially inept, uneducated, emotionally immature, deluded, egocentric, with a sense of entitlement, a persecution complex, addicted to fame for fame's sake & too mentally & socially crippled to get a job or live by herself.
It's absolutely tragic...and embarrassing that once again the world has been privy to the inadequacies and shortcomings of this bizarre 'woman-child' which her parents are largely to blame for.
”

Good post.

Been saying it all along, and this is why I didn't want Lauren to win; it would just perpetuate her and her families' belief that Lauren is destined for stardom; Lauren thinks that success in the media in some way will find her friends and a life, when really I doubt she or her family want her to have that kind of independence.
Blondie X
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Heartache:
“Agree with all of this, when she first popped up as a strange little boy, and it was revealed her parents faked qualifications, you would think someone in authority would take a look.
Wonder how many similar families exist out there,that have gone under the radar.”

I worked with someone very similar though maybe not as extreme. She's now 47/48, never left home and her parents treat her like she's 14. If she stays at a friends for the night, her mum phones to check she's really there and not with a man. When she was finally allowed to leave the country for a week in Spain, her parents gave her a lost of places she was not allowed to go to and she had to call home every night and tell them what she'd been doing that day.

Her brother is in his early 50's, married with 2 kids and they all live in 2 bedrooms of the parents house.
Betty Britain
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I worked with someone very similar though maybe not as extreme. She's now 47/48, never left home and her parents treat her like she's 14. If she stays at a friends for the night, her mum phones to check she's really there and not with a man. When she was finally allowed to leave the country for a week in Spain, her parents gave her a lost of places she was not allowed to go to and she had to call home every night and tell them what she'd been doing that day.

Her brother is in his early 50's, married with 2 kids and they all live in 2 bedrooms of the parents house.”

the brother and his family live with the parents as well?
Why would his wife put up with that?
anne_666
15-09-2013
I agree entirely. The parents are corrupt inveterate lying dysfunctional adults.She has never left them as is the natural way, as she is too damaged by them ever to survive.
Betty Britain
15-09-2013
Sleepy poodle
Great post and I agree with all of it
anne_666
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Good post.

Been saying it all along, and this is why I didn't want Lauren to win; it would just perpetuate her and her families' belief that Lauren is destined for stardom; Lauren thinks that success in the media in some way will find her friends and a life, when really I doubt she or her family want her to have that kind of independence.”

I agree, she is a cash cow to them, nothing more.Courtney was treated the same way by her parents, then her husband took over that role. I'm sure that was their unconscious attraction to each other.Both exploited by crazy parents and never being allowed to grow up normally.
maincoony
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“If she can read and write and articulate herself she's educated, she can do all of those.”

Blimey - fairly low standards there......
lexi22
15-09-2013
Yeah, getting a little perplexed by this idea that there's something innocent and sweet in this Lauren and Courtney friendship. On the surface there may be a genuine friendship but I think on Lauren's part it's far more Lauren seeing Courtney's life as desireable and Courtney and Doug as having the clout to kickstart Lauren's own equally 'glam' life in the US.

Courtney's 'glam Hollywood life' is as much a desperate fantasy as Lauren's showbiz dreams.
muggins14
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by lexi22:
“Yeah, getting a little perplexed by this idea that there's something innocent and sweet in this Lauren and Courtney friendship. On the surface there may be a genuine friendship but I think on Lauren's part it's far more Lauren seeing Courtney's life as desireable and Courtney and Doug as having the clout to kickstart Lauren's own equally 'glam' life in the US.

Courtney's 'glam Hollywood life' is as much a desperate fantasy as Lauren's showbiz dreams.”

I agree with you there; this would be a case of Lauren & Co using Courtney & Co. rather than vice-versa.
lexi22
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree with you there; this would be a case of Lauren & Co using Courtney & Co. rather than vice-versa.”

Yes, that's far closer to the reality imo.

I do wonder if a lot of people are unaware of Courtney and Doug's level of 'fame' in the US. They are 'Hollywood' only in the car-crash aspect of it.
muggins14
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by lexi22:
“Yes, that's far closer to the reality imo.

I do wonder if a lot of people are unaware of Courtney and Doug's level of 'fame' in the US. They are 'Hollywood' only in the car-crash aspect of it.”

WIth regard to the Harries clan, I doubt they care, it's a step up for them
anne_666
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by lexi22:
“Yes, that's far closer to the reality imo.

I do wonder if a lot of people are unaware of Courtney and Doug's level of 'fame' in the US. They are 'Hollywood' only in the car-crash aspect of it.”

Yes I know of that.Infamy is the correct word to use for them .She is just exploited to the full. The videos he has made of Courtney are cringe worthy and rather creepy considering her age.Two lots of exploiters together if this is true IMO. Lets wait for them to all eat each other. Anyone daring to take on that vicious mother is a brave soul! It can only end in tears
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