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Results:Who is the ultimate Matriarch
Peggy Mitchell
39 (25.83%)
Lou Beale
30 (19.87%)
Mo Harris
1 (0.66%)
Pauline Fowler
20 (13.25%)
Cora Cross
4 (2.65%)
Dot Branning
12 (7.95%)
Mo Butcher
1 (0.66%)
Pat Evans
40 (26.49%)
Zainab Masood
1 (0.66%)
Carol Jackson
2 (1.32%)
Kathy Beale
0 (0%)
Other
1 (0.66%)
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Who is the Ultimate Eastenders Matriarch
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vald
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Cal_Scream2:
“Lou Beale all the way. Second would be Pat.

Don't believe Peggy's getting more votes than either of them, she's awesome but she's not as good as Lou and Pat...”

Me neither, she was a controlling rather than caring mother, and she looked down on most of the people in the square.
Scrabbler
15-09-2013
Originally Posted by Pete Callan:
“Lou Beale. There hasn't been another like her since. She really was the lynchpin of the Square, a rare product of times gone by, absolutely no one crossed Lou. She struck fear into those she deemed needed it, was fearless herself and yet when you were down, there was no one better to listen to your problems and set you off with the perfect advice.

Pat, Peggy and Pauline all had elements and a scene with the three together was always the best of any episode, but no one encompassed all the qualities of a great soap matriarch like Lou.

I don't really feel Dot qualifies as a matriarch at all. She's just a nice old lady, she isn't the head of a family, she doesn't have any power or clout in the community or amongst her neighbours. Similarly, Kathy doesn't qualify, she was never top of the tree.”

I did Umm and Ahh whether Kathy counted as a matriarch but I decided to include her to see what others thought. The fact she got no votes illustrates that people don't consider her to be one.

Dot is one of the heads of the Branning clan, they respect her.
lewiep93
15-09-2013
No contest - Lou Beale. The original and the best.

http://youtu.be/bQtB6xi6HAg?t=6m38s

Thought I'd share this AMAZING argument between Lou and Pat. The scripts were so sharp back in the day.
IanMandy
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“

I have never heard of that before, Patriarchs. ”

Patrick would be the square's patriarch (incidentally, the name 'Patrick' comes from the word 'patriarch')

Pauline was my choice, after Lou went it was Pauline who was the glue of the family. Apart from the very end of her stint when the writing was botched up for her, Pauline was always firecely defensive of her family
KaylaL
16-09-2013
Pauline in her heyday definately!

Couldn't be Peggy...she only cared about the Mitchells...and a Matriach would be there to help anyone in trouble.
pembo2004
16-09-2013
got to be lou for me
Vicks-Louise
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by felixrex:
“Pat was there for everybody; and she never judged and she never shamed. That's what made Pat so brilliant and gave her such a unique position in the show's hierarchy - she'd been there, done that and got the T-Shirt, and she wasn't about to shame anybody else for doing the same. Offer some stern words of advice and tell a few home-truths; sure, but she'd have your interests at heart. She was always looking out for you, not looking down on you, and she'd never get on her high-horse because she knew damn well she didn't have one to get up on. That's why Pat is the ultimate matriarch for me, because she wasn't just the matriarch for her clan or those close to her; she was there for everybody.”

For the reasons above I voted Pat but I'd also like to acknowledge Mo Harris she always had the Slater girls backs along with Charlie and even Gary infact I loved the whole dynamic in that family.
vald
16-09-2013
I think Kat is matriarch material. She always looked out for her sisters and Stacey, she is protective with Jean and she was lovely with nana and spencer. We've also seen her look out for Alice when her dad died and her being there for Whitney when she was in a state recently.
big dan
16-09-2013
Pat or Pauline for me by far.
Cuddly_Cat
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by vald:
“Me neither, she was a controlling rather than caring mother, and she looked down on most of the people in the square.”

I don't think Peggy was a good matriarch. She was more of a battle axe and a snob. I think Pat and Dot have been good matriarchs. People went to Pat for advice and the same can be said of Dot. Pat had a colourful life and didn't look down her nose at anyone. Dot is there for the younger ones. The only thing with Dot is her tendency to quote the bible which can be annoying.
bass55
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by Cuddly_Cat:
“I don't think Peggy was a good matriarch. She was more of a battle axe and a snob. I think Pat and Dot have been good matriarchs. People went to Pat for advice and the same can be said of Dot. Pat had a colourful life and didn't look down her nose at anyone. Dot is there for the younger ones. The only thing with Dot is her tendency to quote the bible which can be annoying.”

As much as I love her, Dot has never been a matriarchal character. She has never been the head of a family, and has always been a lone character, taking in various waifs and strays over the years. Even now in her role as Branning 'gran' she is not a central part of the family nor does she hold any power. She regularly calls Jim's children out for the hypocrites they are.

Peggy was undeniably a matriarch because of her total control over her family - she is the only person (except Sharon) who held power over Phil and Grant.
KarenCole
16-09-2013
Who is Mo Butcher?
lotty27
16-09-2013
As soon as I saw the title of the thread LOU came straight to mind, she was bloomin' terrifying! Pauline could have definitely followed in her footsteps if they hadn't pretty much destroyed the character before she was killed off.


Peggy and Pat were also good matriarchs but I suppose the matriarch now is Dot.
bass55
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by KarenCole:
“Who is Mo Butcher?”

Frank's mother. She was only the show for a year or so in the late 80s.
Scrabbler
16-09-2013
I'm so glad to see Pat back in the lead where she deserves
thejoyof_pat
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by SMIDSYmk2:
“I went for Pat.
I'd say Zainab was a good attempt at one though.”

Same for me.
Lewi26
16-09-2013
Peggy followed by pat, hated Pauline she was just a miserable cow!
dan2008
16-09-2013
[quote=Lewi26;68710559]Peggy followed by pat, hated Pauline she was just a miserable cow![/QUOTE] Just laughed at that
Lewi26
16-09-2013
[quote=dan2008;68710588]
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“Peggy followed by pat, hated Pauline she was just a miserable cow![/QUOTE] Just laughed at that ”

It's true! Never liked the po faced joyless whinge bag
dan2008
16-09-2013
[quote=Lewi26;68710657]
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“
It's true! Never liked the po faced joyless whinge bag ”

I thought you'd both get on like an house on fire
Lewi26
16-09-2013
[quote=dan2008;68710722]
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“I thought you'd both get on like an house on fire ”



The cheek! I'm the happiest person in the world, I even praised eastenders every day last week
dan2008
16-09-2013
[quote=Lewi26;68710788]
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“


The cheek! I'm the happiest person in the world, I even praised eastenders every day last week ”

Something must of happened to you last week for you to be in a rare good mood and to praise EastEnders.
Care to share?
Lewi26
16-09-2013
[quote=dan2008;68710817]
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“Something must of happened to you last week for you to be in a rare good mood and to praise EastEnders.
Care to share? ”

I either got laid or the monkeys at the BBC decided finally pull there fingers out there arses and give us a few decent eps... You decide
dan2008
16-09-2013
[quote=Lewi26;68710863]
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“
I either got laid or the monkeys at the BBC decided finally pull there fingers out there arses and give us a few decent eps... You decide ”

You praised it 5 times in one week so both I should think.....
Lewi26
16-09-2013
[quote=dan2008;68710893]
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“You praised it 5 times in one week so both I should think.....”

Your right both is true well when your a hot piece of arse like me...

I didn't watch tonight's ep but heard it was back to the same old bollocks? Anyway Daniel stop going off topic - were talking about matriarchs here!
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