Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Has that not happened before, though? IIRC Lucy Spraggan's EP stayed up, at least for the first couple of live shows.”
I think it's the first time it's stayed up for so long, and so prominently. Given that such a big deal was made out of stopping Sam C selling his 'Mrs C' tshirts (WHO IN ****ING GOD'S NAME WOULD WANT ONE???) And Lucy's ep was taken off as soon as it became common knowledge (not saying it wasn't producer knowledge before then though).
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“I do agree it's intriguing though. It does suggest to me that there's more at play here than the whole 'busker from Devon made good' thing going on - the shadow of a much larger machine looming on the horizon.”
That's so War of the Worlds. Or the Tripods, does anyone remember the tripods? But I do agree.
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“Because that's what you do, innit? Before you even consider what could be. WHen you first learn an instrument you explore it's every nook and cranny. You start to write songs if you're son inclined (or in my case start to make beats etc because you can't structure a song easily and you can't write lyrics for shit). I used to spend hours upon hours with my synth and sampler creating little things. I never ever thought of it as a possible career. I just loved doing it and had vague fantasies of being the next Trevor Horn. The one time it occurred to me that maybe I should have followed through on it was when the Prodige released Voodoo People and people started banging on about how it was new and exciting because it fused heavy guitars with breakbeat etc. I was miffed because I'd made a little thing with PJ Harvey & Kool & The Gang samples which sounded INCREDIBLY similar about a year earlier. 'Oh what could have been' I thought to myself.”
It's a shame we have such totally different musical tastes, we could have taken the world by storm!
It did occur to me that Wish You Were Here is a 12 string guitar song, and I'm buying one in the next couple of weeks; I had great plans about kidnapping Nicky and forcing him to sing it for you. That sounds horribly sordid
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“Entirely possible. Though the more I think about it, the more I feel like there may well have been at least a wizard behind the curtain, if not a fully fledged machine.”
Probably a Tripod *nods*
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“Ah yes, I forgot about that. Is it definitely still the case? I do wonder how that works within the wider context of Sony, given that actual Syco is a very small team.”
Well I think it's with Sony via SYVO, they're bound to Sony unless Sony don't want them afaik.
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“The other possibility that occurred to me is that a deal may well have been struck beforehand (an extrapolation of your lawyer idea, if you like) from another record company - either within Sony or without - and that could explain why we have heard nothing about contracts etc as yet.”
That possibility hadn't occurred to me, interesting idea.
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“Another company could well have 'bought' space on the show, for instance, in the same way that Sam C is reputed to have been a placement on behalf of SImon Fuller. These deals are not unusual - it's not a huge leap from record companies buying shop floor space in HMV or, indeed, a special BRIT award being created for One Direction to make sure they win one.”
For which they proceeded to thank the wrong radio station, and briefly got blacklisted
Edit - wrong award, but the lolishness remains the same
The idea of 'buying' an entry into the finals had never, ever occurred to me as a possibility; I love your insights
Whotf would buy a slot for Sam C?!
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“Much more remote idea here: Does Tory Barlow still have his own label? He'd be able to pull strings for sure...”
Well he looks like he's operated by strings, so...
That idea just makes me massively /shudder though
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“I'm glad. This is all speculation on my part, obviously. And I'm quite possibly coming at it with my own set of prejudices ”
Where would be we without speculation!
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“I'd be running on the spot! And inexplicable? You cray cray. He's amazing!”
You're adorable
Nick needs to realise this!
