I think the Amazon thing might have just been a placeholder in case he won

Nicholas was on twitter and facebook saying people going on twitter and facebook saying stuff about him that are not true he said I care about my fans they got me to final and also I entered x factor for love of singing not for fame he doesn't get how people hate him I don't either

I dont get why people hate him either

There were a few guys who were winding his fans up they have felt the backlash tho I would imagine coz they got constant abuse from all nicky's fans nicky tweeted one of the guys about it aswell, kinda showed just how strong his fan base actually is. Think they were trying to start on Luke aswell but none of his fans have retaliated

The cd is still showing on amazon.com, thought they would have took it off by now

I saw that. It was because some idiot had tweeted that he'd spoken to Nicky and he'd said he only did it for the fame - it upset a lot of the teenage girly fans.

He tweeted the guy who'd said it and said that it was a lot of lies and he'd never even met the guy (which the guy had admitted earlier on his timeline anyway). I tweeted Nicky and said he should just ignore the trolls and block them if needs be. He seems to have deleted that tweet to the guy and replaced it with one just saying not to listen to anyone and it's not true he doesn't love his fans.

Must be really hard suddenly getting lots of hate sent your way just because you've been in a singing contest. I hope he doesn't take it to heart.

Hmm. Would be awesome to get a physical copy, though I'd make do with a download. I'd also like to download his duet (even though I hate Westlife generally) - he was awesome in that.

Actually, it doesn't seem to be showing up for me. Anyone else?

R u definitely on amazon.com and not co.uk? I searched nicholas mcdonald and it came up the single only thing is it has to get shipped from overseas

I'm on amazon.co.uk. If it's amazon.com I think it was probably just a placeholder

Haha now I'm in a twitter argument with some guy who's tweeting Nicky and slagging him off for supposedly slagging Louis off.

What must it be like getting all these tweets from people, either people saying shitty things, or teenage girls going 'please follow meeeeeeeee omgxx'?

He has a wonderful voice, and I hope he has a great future ahead. He'd have been a far more deserving winner than the one this series got.

I think it might do acts like Nicholas a big favour that they're not allowed to sign any deals until after the xfactor tour, etc. It means that the pressure to be seen to have been signed has dissipated, and allows them time and space to back away from anything really bad for them and hopefully get something more positive in place.


As a Scot who's adamant that 'the scottish vote' doesn't exist beyond a few inbred pockets that don't know how to/don't have enough fingers to/have too many fingers to use a phone... I read a fascinating analysis that argued that the constant promotion of the regional vote by Louis actually turns off voters from elsewhere, particularly when it comes to the mythical scottish vote. Tell people often enough that the scottish vote exists, despite scottish acts doing no better than anyone else - and who was out first last year? - and ambivalent people will vote elsewhere.

Nicholas got massively shafted this year, and I hope he overcomes it and does well for himself.

(and sorry for jumping into your thread)

He has to be one of the most popular finalists this series and quite rightly so, his twitter feed is constant with young girls tryin to get his attention

No apology necessary, sycamore. It's nice to get a different perspective, even if from a Luke fan

I get what you're saying about not being allowed to sign until after the tour, I'm just really worried he's not going to get picked up. I can't really see why they would have pushed so hard for Sam to win unless it was more of an anti-Nicky thing - her sales so far seem to suggest she's not going to shift mega-units, so why have deliberately sabotaged an act who might have more long-term legs?

Also, while Tamera and Luke have both been tweeting things that seem to suggest they've already been signed, Nicky has only tweeted a promise to his fans to not give up and to 'hopefully' get an album out in the future, which doesn't sound nearly as positive.

Incidentally, where was the analyses about the Scottish thing alienating non-Scots? I think I read an allusion to something similar on sofa bet. If there's another analysis of it I'd love to read it.

I don't think he actually said anything about louie the daily mail make things up and actually people believe it that the horrible fact I am a big man utd and the daily mail reporter was banned from press conferences from now on for writing rubbish the manager the daily mail target anyone that is famous to sell papers

Ahh... you noticed. Cloaking system fail, clearly *blushes and denies everything*

But yeah, Luke was my big favourite but Nicholas was my 2nd place


I completely agree with you, I have no sodding idea wtf the Sam promotion was all about. Nice woman, good singer, bags of respect for her for her defence of Tamera during that week 8ish feedback - but wtf was going on that they pushed her so hard, and crushed Nicholas so hard? Especially since Nick is surely more marketable, and the better, more talented singer.

I do wonder how much Nick being very vocal about how unhappy he was about song choices etc put Louis's back up, and how much it hurt Nicholas. And being very vocal about Louis picking Nick over Luke on that radio show, and whatever sparked that outburst during the results when Sam C was still in the show (omg how much do I wish I knew what that was about). Louis makes me feel horribly uncomfortable, and everything I've read just adds to that. I also suspect that, in the light of Louis hedging his bets between Luke and Sam B winning the show, that the whole Luke as dark horse underdog thing was planned from the start, that they saw what happened with Christopher Maloney last year when people were voting for 'the one They don't want to win' and exploited that. But I can't imagine that they'd think Luke's vote would affect Nick's or vice versa, it's Sam and Nick that had the overlap in musical style. I'm sooooo confused :/


I honestly don't know why someone would sign Tamera, I thought letting her go out on deadlock as absolute proof that NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD voted for her was the final nail in her coffin. She's utterly screwed up her opportunity, and she's just a joke now, no matter how beautiful she is or how nicely she can occasionally sing. She should have done Next Top Model


I've been trying to find the source of Louis's 'all scots vote now' thing being damaging because I wanted to put the link in my first post, but I'm at a loss, I do think it was via sofabet but that's the best I can manage atm I have to say though, it makes a ton of sense, and it ties in with my anecdotal experience as a scot as the referendum gets closer.

I think Nicholas was just been a great friend to luke and sam c and he was standing up for them I say the issue with sam c was that louie thought sam c was going to be bottom 2 and Nicholas was angry about that and with luke that radio interview louie should not have said that like Nicholas was annoyed by that I think Nicholas wasn't playing ball with them

have to say though, it makes a ton of sense, and it ties in with my anecdotal experience as a scot as the referendum gets closer.[/quote]. Thanks for saying this. I have been getting a definite feeling of this in mainstream media.

Yeah I agree with his, he doesn't seem the kind of person so sit back n take the b***shit, hopefully this is a gd sign for him that he won't be pressured into releasing material that he isn't comfortable with

Haha. I just remember discussing something with you before. You stuck in my mind as one of the more articulate and reasonable fans-of-other-contestants




It really is a mystery. Sometimes I wonder whether it was because they felt Nick wasn't ready for the pressure that comes with it, but I don't know that that makes any sense either. I mean, if so, why not say something along those lines 'you have beautiful voice but you're not quite ready' or something. If someone is winning votes, is a brilliant singer and has a big teenage girly backing as well as those of us who appreciate his fine voice, surely THAT has the potential to rake in a tonne of cash.


Which outburst? I don't remember an outburst. Louis or Nicholas?

Yeah I don't get Louis at all. I can only think he must be a massive control freak. Why would he say early on he thinks Nicholas could win the show, only to quite blatantly throw him under a bus later on?

And yeah, I agree with you about Luke. Louis having tipped him for the win was very odd when looked at next to his early bugging up of Nicholas. The underdog narrative seems likely.


I think the Tamera thing is just evidence of the fundamental contradiction of the show. In all honesty I think she probably had a contract on the table before even auditioning. In many ways she's perfect for them, an avatar for whichever producer wants to stick on their record to help sell it. Her lack of charisma, ability to sing in tune (or indeed ability to remember lyrics) will matter little when presented in highly stylised music videos. They'll have taken one look at her and had dollar signs popping out of their eyes. I think she must have been brought on board mainly for the exposure - if they could have got her to win it then that would have been all fine and dandy, but I guess after the first couple of live shows it became clear that was never going to happen.


Yeah, it's an 'othering' thing, for sure. Plus anyone English who might be inclined to vote for Nick on his talent could easily be lulled into a false sense of security thinking 'Oh I don't need to vote because all the Scots will be anyway'.

Argh it's so frustrating. It will really stick out if Nick doesn't get signed while Luke and (especially) Tamera do. Worried what all that would do to Nick's self-confidence and sense of fair-play too. Plus, I just want to be able to buy his records tbh.

Someone summed it up really well in the comments on the Sofabet voting stats analysis. They said 'So essentially the entire series was about stopping a 16/17 year old from winning' which seems about right. It's horribly depressing that pure talent and, it seems, a good kid, can be shafted like that right in plain view.

what was up with the guest panels every week one of them said Nicholas is a nice guy that they wanted him to do well and then he sounds the same on tv as live and I seen a few videos of teenagers filming him live with their phones I think sounds better live than tv but them they come out and say sam bailey and luke were better live than on tv not Nicholas that didn't make sense to me. Nicholas is a better singer than luke

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Which outburst? I don't remember an outburst. Louis or Nicholas?

Yeah I don't get Louis at all. I can only think he must be a massive control freak. Why would he say early on he thinks Nicholas could win the show, only to quite blatantly throw him under a bus la

Argh it's so frustrating. It will really stick out if Nick doesn't get signed while Luke and (especially) Tamera do. Worried what all that would do to Nick's self-confidence and sense of fair-play too. Plus, I just want to be able to buy his records tbh.

Someone summed it up really well in the comments on the Sofabet voting stats analysis. They said 'So essentially the entire series was about stopping a 16/17 year old from winning' which seems about right. It's horribly depressing that pure talent and, it seems, a good kid, can be shafted like that right in plain view.[/QUOTE]

something happened that night sam c said louie was saying something to him I don't know what was it and it looked like Nicholas looked unhappy and said something to louie like stop that or something and I thought I was the only one at the time but someone else put it on a blog

That's probably the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me

And likewise, you're my favourite poster on this forum

I'm sure there's a hashtag to be found in all this.


I'm skeptial about the 'you're not ready' angle because I don't think these people would give the slightest toss, they put children in these competitions knowing full well what awaits them, and surely either side would think it would be better for a child that got far in the show to have all the protection that a big record label with full on PR could give than just be sitting at home with a pissed off mother with a direct line to the Daily Record.


There was one results night when Sam C got through first of the three boys and Louis said something I couldn't hear but I've seen people say was 'well we all know how this is going now', and you could hear Nick say quite angrilly 'don't say that'. There was definitely something going on that night, I just have no idea what.


Tamera is only thing I've ever disagreed with you about! Although I doubt myself given your knowledge/insight into the whole area. But apparently the groups turnout was so abysmal that they had to run special groups-only auditions to try to find something to put through to the next stage (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...hy-groups.html behind a paywall how helpful, via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_F..._10)#Auditions). Tamera's 'group' (Silver Rock?) was 'together' for a week before they auditioned; in other words, they weren't a group, just two chancers. She's a - whatever the female equivalent of a wide boy is - that went along for the audition with her pal for shits and giggles and a tiny fragment of dream, and they took one look at her and ran with it. And you're right, zero charisma, not that good a singer, and utterly banal. I think they thought they'd found something amazing, tried to push it and realised they were wrong, and let her hang with a bottom of deadlock NO ONE ANYWHERE EVEN LIKES YOU YOU LOSER outcome that's surely deadly for any kind of future career.


Very true. Except we're not, because we're voting for Luke *Louis Walsh explodes in confusion* if only


Even if I wasn't a fan I think I could see why Luke would be signed. Tamera, no way, unless they put her on a retainer and tell her to come back in a few years (if that still happens?) if she happens to discover some charisma, memory, dance skills, etc etc... But like you say, she's an avatar, there's nothing to her and nothing about her. There are scottish labels that I think would look at Nick quite seriously though, though whether that's what he'd want or not is something else. I wouldn't want it if I could get a 'proper' deal (I say as someone who will vote for independence).


I saw that comment and it summed it up perfectly. I just don't understand WHY

I'm glad someone else sees this It's definitely becoming a thing imo.

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Cant wait to see what the news is, I know what I would want it to be