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The Nicholas McDonald Appreciation Thread
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Hitstastic
02-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Minority group? I don't think it's aimed particularly at the gays, if that's what you mean. ”

LOL

No, but a chart run of 5-16-49 isn't exactly a great starting point for an artist in this day and age. It's showing that there really isn't much of a demand for the single which will have a massive knock on effect if the next single does even worse. A bit like that singer Charlie Brown (?) who had a top 10 hit early last year. He's faded back into obscurity by the looks of things.

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. I never understood the appeal of Charlie Brown, and I don't understand the appeal of Elyah Fox. It all screams of "been there, done that, etc...". They could sing each others songs and you wouldn't notice much difference.
Hitstastic
02-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Ooh, do tell, Cake ”

Indeed. You need to elaborate more.
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“LOL

No, but a chart run of 5-16-49 isn't exactly a great starting point for an artist in this day and age. It's showing that there really isn't much of a demand for the single which will have a massive knock on effect if the next single does even worse. A bit like that singer Charlie Brown (?) who had a top 10 hit early last year. He's faded back into obscurity by the looks of things.

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. I never understood the appeal of Charlie Brown, and I don't understand the appeal of Elyah Fox. It all screams of "been there, done that, etc...". They could sing each others songs and you wouldn't notice much difference.”

Well, me neither, to be honest. I understand he'd been hawking himself round record companies in the school holidays with his songs so he's ambitious and he writes, which is fair enough*, and it's a half decent song in a very by-the-numbers-current-sound kinda way. I checked the video out but I must say I instantly forgot it. He's good looking, I suppose, but in a very bland, provincial-gay-club-in-the-early-90s way.

But, you know, this is where I come back to the whole writes-their-own-songs false authenticity that some fans cling onto so keenly. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who has written a song, if it's a good song and it's delivered well. A song should always be autonomous from it's creator(s), and most of the best music has come about from a coming together of disparate inputs, whether it be two people ala Lennon/McCartney or Gilmour/Waters, or more. That's not to say music by committee is a good thing, clearly it's not, but what makes Nicky stand out for me is his ability to deliver a song, written by whoever, purely through his voice. Honestly, there's more musicality in his delivery of a single line of a song than there is in many singer's entire performances (Hello Tamera!).
singlefish
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“LOL

No, but a chart run of 5-16-49 isn't exactly a great starting point for an artist in this day and age. It's showing that there really isn't much of a demand for the single which will have a massive knock on effect if the next single does even worse. A bit like that singer Charlie Brown (?) who had a top 10 hit early last year. He's faded back into obscurity by the looks of things.

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. I never understood the appeal of Charlie Brown, and I don't understand the appeal of Elyah Fox. It all screams of "been there, done that, etc...". They could sing each others songs and you wouldn't notice much difference.”

When I go to the gym the music is always set to Capital Radio. For the past few weeks it seems like Elyar Fox and Avicci's Hey Brother have been played on a loop. So much so that my normally unresponsive to anything but The Fall husband has started to notice!
singlefish
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Well, me neither, to be honest. I understand he'd been hawking himself round record companies in the school holidays with his songs so he's ambitious and he writes, which is fair enough*, and it's a half decent song in a very by-the-numbers-current-sound kinda way. I checked the video out but I must say I instantly forgot it. He's good looking, I suppose, but in a very bland, provincial-gay-club-in-the-early-90s way.

But, you know, this is where I come back to the whole writes-their-own-songs false authenticity that some fans cling onto so keenly. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who has written a song, if it's a good song and it's delivered well. A song should always be autonomous from it's creator(s), and most of the best music has come about from a coming together of disparate inputs, whether it be two people ala Lennon/McCartney or Gilmour/Waters, or more. That's not to say music by committee is a good thing, clearly it's not, but what makes Nicky stand out for me is his ability to deliver a song, written by whoever, purely through his voice. Honestly, there's more musicality in his delivery of a single line of a song than there is in many singer's entire performances (Hello Tamera!).”

Never ever thought I'd say this about an X Factor contestant, but so yes!
mmpfb
03-02-2014
OOOOOOHHHHHHHH.

So the single is 'Answerphone'. Radio Clyde 1 (have I got that right?) are debuting it tomorrow morning apparently!

ZOMG.
singlefish
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“OOOOOOHHHHHHHH.

So the single is 'Answerphone'. Radio Clyde 1 (have I got that right?) are debuting it tomorrow morning apparently!

ZOMG.”

Ooooh news!! Yes Clyde 1. Dying to hear it!!
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by singlefish:
“Ooooh news!! Yes Clyde 1. Dying to hear it!!”

I imagine it's going to be something upbeat. I hope it's good! Will you be listening, singlefish?
singlefish
03-02-2014
Yes!!! Unless it's on in the 5 minutes from me getting out of car and into school!
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by singlefish:
“Yes!!! Unless it's on in the 5 minutes from me getting out of car and into school! ”

Haha. What's the betting it will be?
mmpfb
03-02-2014
I hope someone manages to rip it from the radio and puts it online. I want to hear!
singlefish
03-02-2014
Should be added here fairly quickly I'd imagine? http://www.clyde1.com/on-air/bowie-at-breakfast/
singlefish
03-02-2014
Just heard it. Very very catchy wee tune. The fan girls going to love it!! Doesn't show his voice of as I'd like but I'm humming it already

Nice interview too. Apparently the second album is on track for this year too, with much more original stuff.
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by singlefish:
“Just heard it. Very very catchy wee tune. The fan girls going to love it!! Doesn't show his voice of as I'd like but I'm humming it already

Nice interview too. Apparently the second album is on track for this year too, with much more original stuff.”

Oooh. Sounds good. A think it's fine it doesn't necessarily show off his voice. We all know he can really really sing. The most important thing was probably to get an original song out there just to put a little clear blue water between him and the X Factor. Sounds like it may well achieve that

I'll probably wait until I've had some sleep before I try and find it online. I've been up all night working so my judgement is probably shot and I'm quite likely to woe myself out of existence at the slightest hint of not matching up to Nicky ideals.
spooling
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Oooh. Sounds good. A think it's fine it doesn't necessarily show off his voice. We all know he can really really sing. The most important thing was probably to get an original song out there just to put a little clear blue water between him and the X Factor. Sounds like it may well achieve that :.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ko2QU6ZPiU

RCA clearly (or desperately) wants to penetrate in the market of the teens. So they wait till Elyar's single is at its end for starting with a new trial.
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Was there any mention of a release date, btw?
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by spooling:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ko2QU6ZPiU”

Is that the track?

Argh. Must. Not. Click. Just. Yet.
sycamore
03-02-2014
Thanks Spooling

Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Is that the track?

Argh. Must. Not. Click. Just. Yet.”

Aww, do it, i want to hear your verdict!
singlefish
03-02-2014
Out on 10th March
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by sycamore:
“Thanks Spooling



Aww, do it, i want to hear your verdict!”

I can't. I'm bleary eyed from editing Chris Pratt (sexy man) interviews. I have no judgement. And now I need to go try and find a three month old project file that I thought had been done and dusted but now the client needs changes.

(Plus I'm scared in case I don't like it. My world will implode)
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by singlefish:
“Out on 10th March”

Ooh. 5 days before my birthday.
ChristmasCake
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Ooh, do tell, Cake ”

Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“Indeed. You need to elaborate more. ”

Elyar has been around YouTube for years, we just don't get on because I unsubscribed to him.
sycamore
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“I can't. I'm bleary eyed from editing Chris Pratt (sexy man) interviews. I have no judgement. And now I need to go try and find a three month old project file that I thought had been done and dusted but now the client needs changes.”



Quote:
“(Plus I'm scared in case I don't like it. My world will implode)”

You're not a fan of autotune, right..?
sycamore
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Ooh. 5 days before my birthday.”

Your birthday is sandwiched by his releases.

That sentence makes me happy
mmpfb
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by sycamore:
“



You're not a fan of autotune, right..?”

Uh oh…
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