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Have all the people who said Gina's back story is fake, been vindicated yet?
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Janey_Dowell
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Surely the point was that, if she had been white, people wouldn't have presumed that she was 'telling a story' or that it 'doesn't add up'?”

Sadly I think there is some truth in this.
anne_666
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I wouldn't consider tweets proof of anything. Weren't the 'designer' shoes identified as high street? Didn't she give two different prices for a London home? Wasn't the first price laughably small for what she described? Weren't those the worst, cheapest looking extensions in the history of extensions?”

She did seem to be playing a game to me. Pretending to be amazed at where trains travelled was so childishly obvious.A lot of what she said was like a child pretending to have wealthy parents.
B L Zeebub
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Not me I assure you. I doubted her because of what seemed to be false claims. I do think that by now she probably would have been exposed. Another thing, among so much that didn't ring true, was her claiming to live in the King's Cross area.Not an area of London the very wealthy inhabit.”

BIB - That would make it seem more believable, to me. If you were making it up, wouldn't you choose an area people think of as more salubrious?

The truth is, King's Cross has some very expensive properties. - http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...in+kings+cross
Janey_Dowell
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“BIB - That would make it seem more believable, to me. If you were making it up, wouldn't you choose an area people think of as more salubrious?

The truth is, King's Cross has some very expensive properties. - http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...in+kings+cross”

There's no point in trying with some people. They're like children and the only reason that most of them say she isn't rich is because it's a cheap way of attacking her.
patsylimerick
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“She did seem to be playing a game to me. Pretending to be amazed at where trains travelled was so childishly obvious.A lot of what she said was like a child pretending to have wealthy parents.”

Yes; this was even more telling. Marvelling at the common pleasures like pub grub and public transport. Sheer nonsense. Also - the way the accent varied so much.
patsylimerick
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by Janey_Dowell:
“There's no point in trying with some people. They're like children and the only reason that most of them say she isn't rich is because it's a cheap way of attacking her.”

No, it's because her story doesn't seem to add up. In actual fact, it makes her a little bit more sympathetic (though also a little bit more pathetic). The idea that she actually is that rich and feels the need to tell everyone the price of everything is even worse.
Janey_Dowell
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“No, it's because her story doesn't seem to add up. In actual fact, it makes her a little bit more sympathetic (though also a little bit more pathetic). The idea that she actually is that rich and feels the need to tell everyone the price of everything is even worse.”

Her story did add up though.

There's no evidence that she isn't rich yet you're stating it like a fact.

Oh well. She's living her life and I don't think she cares whether you believe her or not.
patsylimerick
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by Janey_Dowell:
“Her story did add up though.

There's no evidence that she isn't rich yet you're stating it like a fact.

Oh well. She's living her life and I don't think she cares whether you believe her or not.”

You seem to care enough to post on the thread. There's no evidence either way; but her claims don't stack up. If she didn't go on about her wealth all the time, queries about her wealth would be unnecessary. However, it was basically her entire schtick, so of course it should be open to scrutiny.
intoxication
16-09-2013
I love Gina but feel a lot of it is exaggerated in an "itslavishbitch" (google if you don't know it) kind of way, but less realistic due to the fact she was in a house for weeks on end surrounded by cameras all the time
AurelieJolie
16-09-2013
I'm sure she doesn't care what the majority of DS think, but in my opinion she very much cares what certain people think, i.e. people in her "working" world; tv producers, girl band managers, people who buy trashy magazines. I liked Gina up until she made a disgrace of herself in a very unsophisticated way over Hazel btw but at no point did I believe she was born into a middle class or rich family. I found her act endearing at first though. She's attempted to create a rich girl persona for fame/earning reasons; Most Spoilt Girl reality stint, girl band, Big Brother, and because that's what she aspires to be. The only way I could conceive Gina has any degree of wealth is if she has somehow came across it (i.e. winning the lottery or similar) recently because her attempts to appear being used to a middle class or lavish lifestyle are embarrassingly rubbish. Her accent falters continuously. Dom Perignon with Ferrero Rocher, never had a pub lunch, never been on a train, was all ham acting at its cringiest. As someone already said, photos of her surrounded by distinctly cheap worn looking shoes, dressing like a woman from an Ali G video, mouth like a sewer.... she has a LOT of homework to do in my opinion
Blondie X
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“BIB - That would make it seem more believable, to me. If you were making it up, wouldn't you choose an area people think of as more salubrious?

The truth is, King's Cross has some very expensive properties. - http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...in+kings+cross”

Yes, there are some very expensive properties in N1 but didn't she claim her 5 bedroom house with an indoor pool cost £1m? You can see from that link that you couldn't get anything like that sort of house for the amount of money - that's what people questioned (one of the things anyway)
Harry Redknapp
16-09-2013
Just to clarify I don't think that those who doubt her story have a problem with/believing a black girl being rich. My initial post was based on lots of dodgy comments linked to her race and class status floating on the internet.
peterstone
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“I dont think anyone cares really, I certainly dont. I am just glad she is gone off my TV.”

Well said

Awful persona, fake or not
wonkeydonkey
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by Janey_Dowell:
“There's no point in trying with some people. They're like children and the only reason that most of them say she isn't rich is because it's a cheap way of attacking her.”

I have given my reasons. You can address them, but not just pretend that they don't exist.

People who get £10,000 a month pocket money, pitch themselves as dancers/actors and claim to be mad on fashion tend to be identifiable. The London papers are chock full of pictures of people like that attending fashion shows, coming out of expensive clubs etc. I will say this one more time then give up: people who have that kind of money and write fashion blogs get invited to things. They are known to be big shoppers, and are courted by designers. The kind of parents who can give their children an allowance claimed to have been £20,000 a month originally are RICH, not just comfortable. Look at how quickly the forum identified Freddie's parents' house, Harry's house, Bea's house, even Sezer's relatively modest house. The only clearly identifiable details unearthed about Gina are the name of her state school, her state sixth form, and the place where she had dance lessons.
Nikkiclody
16-09-2013
I think everyone forgets she is an actress, everything about her screamed fake.
She worked as a barmaid fgs it was on her online CV thingy that was edited a bit after she went into the house to erase the fact she had done normal jobs, her rich girl act is just that an act.
WeeJintyMcGinty
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“I dont think anyone cares really, I certainly dont..”

Of course you don't dear, that's why you didn't open the thread or post a reply lol.
quasimoron
16-09-2013
Originally Posted by Nikkiclody:
“I think everyone forgets she is an actress, everything about her screamed fake.
She worked as a barmaid fgs it was on her online CV thingy that was edited a bit after she went into the house to erase the fact she had done normal jobs, her rich girl act is just that an act.”

I knew she was fake the first week, both herself and Wolfie. Her dress, language and table manners, the love child of Wurzel gummidge , Jordan and Aunt Sally hair and makeup, also gave her away. Nothing to do with her being black.

Nothing added up and I seen her alleged real name and address on TIBB, plus why would such a rich girl go to state schools etc .
The slipping accent added to the doubts and her refusal to answer any personal question plus the chavvy B/F. immediately dumped after BB.
Aimee
17-09-2013
I personally think that all of those who accused her of lying about her moneyed back-story here should be lining up to say, loudly, they were wrong.

Even to do that other thing.. [oh horror] .. to apologise (to her).

NOT ONE scrap of evidence has come out to prove her back-story untrue. If it was untrue it would be forthcoming by now.

I said all along that if it was proven to be a lie that I would admit openly that I had been fooled by it. My innocent until proven guilty thread has gone in the cull but I stand by it.

Time to admit it's true; she has the money she claims to have.

I'd like to see you all admit it .. but just ONE would be a start. Just one... anyone? Please??
wonkeydonkey
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“I personally think that all of those who accused her of lying about her moneyed back-story here should be lining up to say, loudly, they were wrong.

Even to do that other thing.. [oh horror] .. to apologise (to her).

NOT ONE scrap of evidence has come out to prove her back-story untrue. If it was untrue it would be forthcoming by now.

I said all along that if it was proven to be a lie that I would admit openly that I had been fooled by it. My innocent until proven guilty thread has gone in the cull but I stand by it.

Time to admit it's true; she has the money she claims to have.

I'd like to see you all admit it .. but just ONE would be a start. Just one... anyone? Please??”

Why on earth would anyone do that? As far as I know (and correct me if I am wrong) all the reasons why people don't believe her story stand absolutely as they were. If you want people to admit that they were wrong, you will have to address those reasons, not just pretend that they don't exist. Sigh.

1. Why are there no pictures of her in the public domain either in her expensive hotel suite, where she allegedly stayed for months, or in her lavish house near Kings Cross?

2. Why did she tell the other housemates that she couldn't talk about her background?

3. Why are all the photographs on her blog of expensive designer items stock photographs she has downloaded from the internet, and none of them photographs of her actually wearing or driving the desirable items?

4. Why was the 'most spoilt girl' article illustrated with a picture of her lying surrounded by £60 shoes?

5. Why has she never been shown at any kind of prestigious club or event?

6. Why has no one identified her parents, who must be extremely wealthy if they can afford what was originally claimed to be a £20,000 a month allowance?

7. Why is she known to have gone to state schools in a pleasant but ordinary suburb?

8. In the BB house she talked a lot about the lavish parties and holidays she was going to have when she got out. What happened to them?

9. Why was she working as a barmaid until quite recently?
Aimee
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Why on earth would anyone do that? As far as I know (and correct me if I am wrong) all the reasons why people don't believe her story stand absolutely as they were. If you want people to admit that they were wrong, you will have to address those reasons, not just pretend that they don't exist.”

All of them are opinion, not fact.

Addressed.
patsylimerick
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“All of them are opinion, not fact.

Addressed.”

No they really aren't. Start with the high street shoes in the photographs; or maybe the £1m house with the swimming pool?
anne_666
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“BIB - That would make it seem more believable, to me. If you were making it up, wouldn't you choose an area people think of as more salubrious?

The truth is, King's Cross has some very expensive properties. - http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...in+kings+cross”

Nothing like as expensive as the wealthy areas of London. The figures she quoted would denote extremely wealthy parents. It's all been said on here and who really knows. I do feel the truth would have been uncovered by now as I said before.
Bunions
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Surely the point was that, if she had been white, people wouldn't have presumed that she was 'telling a story' or that it 'doesn't add up'?”

Exactly!

The assumption was that she couldn't possibly be posh or speak with a posh accent because she was black.

I wasn't here when Derek Laud was on the show so it would have been interesting to read what FMs made of his mode of speech?

The fact that it (Gina's accent) was sometimes exaggerated was further 'proof' that it was a sham and I remember thinking 'I hope none of these people ever hear my telephone-speaking voice!'

I have one way that I speak in general, another way with my mother and family (patois) and a more professional version of me to my clients.

Guess I'm a fake too then
john176bramley
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I have given my reasons. You can address them, but not just pretend that they don't exist.

People who get £10,000 a month pocket money, pitch themselves as dancers/actors and claim to be mad on fashion tend to be identifiable. The London papers are chock full of pictures of people like that attending fashion shows, coming out of expensive clubs etc. I will say this one more time then give up: people who have that kind of money and write fashion blogs get invited to things. They are known to be big shoppers, and are courted by designers. The kind of parents who can give their children an allowance claimed to have been £20,000 a month originally are RICH, not just comfortable. Look at how quickly the forum identified Freddie's parents' house, Harry's house, Bea's house, even Sezer's relatively modest house. The only clearly identifiable details unearthed about Gina are the name of her state school, her state sixth form, and the place where she had dance lessons.”


To live a very modest life in central London you'd need at least £25K a year.

So I'll ask again, where does she get her money from?
anne_666
17-09-2013
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Yes, there are some very expensive properties in N1 but didn't she claim her 5 bedroom house with an indoor pool cost £1m? You can see from that link that you couldn't get anything like that sort of house for the amount of money - that's what people questioned (one of the things anyway)”

£1,000,000 wouldn't get a 5 bedroom house with a pool anywhere in London.
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