Have all the people who said Gina's back story is fake, been vindicated yet?

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Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Isn't it normal to believe what people say until it's proved that they are liars?”

No, or else we'd be believing every random rumour on the internet until it's proved false.

anne_666

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Fair enough.

I'm sure if she's lying there will be plenty of information out there to prove that she was and loads of people will come forward with stories about her humble lifestyle.”

It's been "out there" for months.

anne_666

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“No, or else we'd be believing every random rumour on the internet until it's proved false.”

john176bramley

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“No, or else we'd be believing every random rumour on the internet until it's proved false.”

But you're believing a random rumour on the internet that Gina isn't really rich without any proof.

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“Well now we're getting somewhere. To even exist in London she'd need at least £2K a month from her parents. We'll have to go with her owning a property as an outright lie because to buy even a modest 1 bed flat in a less salubrious part of London you'd need to be on at least £80K a year.
...”

Now we are getting somewhere.

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“You seem to be applying the guilty until proven innocent school of thought.”

No, it's the don't believe dubious stories without some good evidence school of thought. Or perhaps the Missouri school.

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“One thing that still perplexes me though is why none of Gina's fellow HMs have exposed this big fat lie? Surely they've asked her questions? Surely she had to answer them now out of the house? Surely they'd be quite upset about being lied to so much for so long?

Dan would have course asked questions, as would Sam. Maybe they'd be prepared to keep her little secret but what about Sallie, Hazel, the twins, Jemma?”

Why would she have to answer them now out of the house?

Why would any of them even care enough to ask?

wonkeydonkey

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“It's N2 - London postcode.”

yes, of course, sorry, I had forgotten how ambiguous the Londoner's use of 'out of London' can be.

Kings Cross is central. Barnet is outer suburb, though very pleasant as I said, and not cheap. It's surprisingly difficult to find 5 bedroom houses in N1. This one looks nice: http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...atured_listing

Bunions

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“No, or else we'd be believing every random rumour on the internet until it's proved false.”

I don't believe 'random rumours on the internet' though.

Never said that I did, either.

planets

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“It's N2 - London postcode.”

just to jump in....that house is miles outside of central london right next to the north circular.....if you don't know/haven't lived in London you won't understand property values in certain areas are markedly different to somewhere like a semi detached on the north circular near east finchley

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“But you're believing a random rumour on the internet that Gina isn't really rich without any proof.”

No I'm not.

I'm doing nothing of the sort.

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“I don't believe 'random rumours on the internet' though.

Never said that I did, either.”

So you don't believe what people say until it's proved that they are liars.

john176bramley

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
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Why would she have to answer them now out of the house?

Why would any of them even care enough to ask?”

Some questions were asked of Gina (such as what her dad did) and Gina said she didn't want to say on TV, now she's free to.

If I saw a person I'd lived with for 9 weeks and I believed they'd totally lied to me for all that time I'd at least ask them some questions, everyone would in the circumstances. I believe Sallie said she wasn't going to rest until she'd proved Gina was lying about her wealth, maybe she gave up?

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“As long as the truth sounds plausible, yes.”

It only has to sound plausible?

Con artists love that sort of attitude.

john176bramley

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“No I'm not.

I'm doing nothing of the sort.”

I think you'll find you are.

I have yet to see a shred of evidence that Gina isn't what she claimed, just internet rumours, mostly on this forum.

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“Some questions were asked of Gina (such as what her dad did) and Gina said she didn't want to say on TV, now she's free to.”

That doesn't mean she has to answer now that she's out of the house.

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“If I saw a person I'd lived with for 9 weeks and I believed they'd totally lied to me for all that time I'd at least ask them some questions, everyone would in the circumstances. I believe Sallie said she wasn't going to rest until she'd proved Gina was lying about her wealth, maybe she gave up?”

Well, did Sallie say it or not? Start with that.

Veri

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“I think you'll find you are.”

Nonsense.

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“I have yet to see a shred of evidence that Gina isn't what she claimed, just internet rumours, mostly on this forum.”

So what?

How about this: Please stop making assumptions about me. Please stop assuming I've said things I haven't or otherwise misrepresenting my posts, and instead stick to discussing the HMs and the show.

evenangels

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Yes it would. Here's one for £679,950 and you could have your own basement pool put in with the over a quarter of a million pounds change from the million.

http://www.primelocation.com/for-sal...atured_listing”

But not Kings Cross!!

Bunions

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by planets:
“just to jump in....that house is miles outside of central london right next to the north circular.....if you don't know/haven't lived in London you won't understand property values in certain areas are markedly different to somewhere like a semi detached on the north circular near east finchley”

Well when someone says 'you can't buy a 5 bedroom house with a pool in London' I expect them to mean London.

The poster didn't say 'Central London' either and I'm a Londoner BTW

wonkeydonkey

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“It only has to sound plausible?

Con artists love that sort of attitude.”

Yes, well I'm always being taken in by con artists. I'm not sure I haven't given money to the same man twice when his car unexpectedly burst a tyre and he just needed to get home and pick up his wallet. Still, I have every confidence that he will track me down one day and pay me back both lots. I generally believe people. I just don't believe this stuff about Gina, hard though it is to prove a negative. At least without being unduly intrusive. As a matter of fact I have thought of ways one could look for evidence; but I don't really like the idea.

john176bramley

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Veri:
“That doesn't mean she has to answer now that she's out of the house.

Well, did Sallie say it or not? Start with that.”

I have no wish to venture onto Sallie's twitter but I'm sure the evidence is there.

Originally Posted by Bus Stop2012:
“I don't like Sallie, but after looking at her twitter feed, the only thing she perhaps gets wrong, really, is that she bothers to respond to those tweeting nastily to her (who tend to be some pretty foul mouthed Gina 'fans'). This latest round began with a Q&A session in which Sallie was asked if there was any HM, about whom she had changed her opinion since leaving the house. Sallie replied, Gina, because she isn't rich, with that shit hair. Pressed further, she has said that she does't like fakes and liars, and that she will get to the bottom of the Gina fakery.

Don't blame her, as I want to know too ”

planets

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Well when someone says 'you can't buy a 5 bedroom house with a pool in London' I expect them to mean London.

The poster didn't say 'Central London' either and I'm a Londoner BTW”

well then you will understand the house that you posted wasn't even vaguely near the Kingscross area....you could tell that by the style never mind the postcode....people aren't randomly discussing property in London as well you know, they are discussing the specific area Gina mentioned her house was.

yellowlabbie

17-09-2013

Gina still has everyone talking about her I see.

john176bramley

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Yes, well I'm always being taken in by con artists. I'm not sure I haven't given money to the same man twice when his car unexpectedly burst a tyre and he just needed to get home and pick up his wallet. Still, I have every confidence that he will track me down one day and pay me back both lots. I generally believe people. I just don't believe this stuff about Gina, hard though it is to prove a negative. At least without being unduly intrusive. As a matter of fact I have thought of ways one could look for evidence; but I don't really like the idea.”

Well Gina would have to provide proof of her identity for BB, she'd have to give a verifiable name and address. I can only assume when she gave her address as a small council flat in Walthamstow the producers decided to go along with the ruse.

Bunions

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by planets:
“well then you will understand the house that you posted wasn't even vaguely near the Kingscross area....you could tell that by the style never mind the postcode....people aren't randomly discussing property in London as well you know, they are discussing the specific area Gina mentioned her house was.”

Know what? Please don't tell me what I 'well know' because I don't appreciate it.

I appreciate it even less than you 'just jumping in' to make a point about a post you didn't make.

Nothing I read mentioned Kings's Cross because if it did, I wouldn't have posted that image.

wonkeydonkey

17-09-2013

Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“Well Gina would have to provide proof of her identity for BB, she'd have to give a verifiable name and address. I can only assume when she gave her address as a small council flat in Walthamstow the producers decided to go along with the ruse.”

Presumably they only have to give a contact address. (Shabby, for example, was part of a squatters' group that moved from place to place). But if Gina's back-story is not true, it is a genuinely interesting question what BB knew. And the Daily Mail, come to that.

eddeva

17-09-2013

didn't they do that in a way?
I missed the beginning of BB but from posts here I got the strong impression that a good number of the housemates went in telling any number of gigantic whoppers - dead daughters, being Christian grey, three ways featuring mothers and daughter etc ... BB let them run wild, stood back and watched the fun.
why would they treat gina any differently if she is in fact making sh!t up like the others?

btw I freely apologise if i'm wrong about any of the housemates fantasy lives, I only have what's written here to go by.

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