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Old 17-09-2013, 20:43
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When has the Doctor thing "not in name of the doctor" the one I can think of is kill a cave man in an unearthly child.
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:07
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Cant make sense of urr post .. but think whatever it us won't be abwt an unearthly child
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:15
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Cant make sense of urr post .. but think whatever it us won't be abwt an unearthly child
I think what they're asking is on what occasions has The Doctor done something particularly "unDoctorish" i.e. something that conflicts with his moral code and practices?

I would think that the Time War is one such example.
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:21
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Oh ok... think it has to be a timewar thing given the placement of hurts doctor... I just hope its a bit more clever than the obvious thou
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:25
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When has the Doctor thing "not in name of the doctor" the one I can think of is kill a cave man in an unearthly child.
The Doctor isn't your classic "good" hero; he's complicated, he has a dark side, such as the incident you mention during William Hartnell's first story. But nothing that quite qualifies as "not acting in the name of the doctor". The John Hurt incarnation must have clearly done something absolutely horrific for it to be regarded as not done in the doctor's name.
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Old 17-09-2013, 22:10
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The Doctor isn't your classic "good" hero; he's complicated, he has a dark side, such as the incident you mention during William Hartnell's first story. But nothing that quite qualifies as "not acting in the name of the doctor". The John Hurt incarnation must have clearly done something absolutely horrific for it to be regarded as not done in the doctor's name.
If John Hurt's Doctor is the Time War Doctor then the apparent Genocide of the Timelords & Daleks isn't something that a Doctor would normally do.

Yet 9, 10 & 11 are still happy to claim credit for it, so it will be interesting how they explain it.
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Old 17-09-2013, 22:44
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Maybe Hurts Dr is the first and what he did is why he fled Galifrey?
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Old 17-09-2013, 23:20
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When has the Doctor thing "not in name of the doctor" the one I can think of is kill a cave man in an unearthly child.
He doesn't actually kill the caveman. Ian stopped him. But of course there was nothing to indicate he didn't fully intend to kill him.
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Old 17-09-2013, 23:41
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McCoy tricking Davros into blowing up Skaro always struck me as a bit extreme.
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Old 18-09-2013, 00:08
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Strangling Peri was pretty unDoctorish.
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Old 18-09-2013, 09:12
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This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsSKm2HPYXI is a bit unDoctorish and so is a lot of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmnPs64K74 WARNING: Sweary soundtrack on 2nd vid.
The Doctor has issues but then so do humans.
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Old 18-09-2013, 09:22
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That's why he needs freinds around him. So when he is going "dark" they can stop him.
GI listed all the baddies the doctor has fought and defeated over the years.Maybe if they stoped trying to take over the universe every week he could retire to keep bees and paint!. Sadly it looks like he will end up back on trenzalore. Started with a war so suppose it has to end with a war. Will just be a smaller scale his final battle.
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Old 18-09-2013, 11:00
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The way the Eleventh Doctor says that to him is more like addressing an adversary than another incarnation of himself,

He doesn't seem to have a grasp of the John Hurt Doctor's motivations, nor does he seem to take personal responsibilty for them in the way that the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's display their guilt over the Time War.

So I still think, Despite what we've been led to believe, that Hurt will turn out to be the incarnation AFTER Smith and Capaldi will either follow him or re-write him.

Maybe the Doctor made a promise to himself never to undo the Time Lock but Hurt's Doctor did that very thing?
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Old 18-09-2013, 14:39
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In "The Beast Below" Eleven says that if he lobotomizes the space whale he'll have to find a new name for himself because he won't be the Doctor anymore.

Pretty big clue there I think.
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Old 18-09-2013, 20:32
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Was dropping the bombs on Japan to end WWII 'in the name of' democracy?

No, it was a horrific act taken by one party to further the ends of peace.

John Hurt is the Dr who dropped the bomb, 9/10/11 are complicit but did not give their consent as such. The core Doctor could not agree to it, but a splinter of the Doctor could push the button.
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Old 18-09-2013, 20:45
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Strangling Peri was pretty unDoctorish.
What he did he did in the name of peace and sanity.
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Old 18-09-2013, 20:52
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What he did he did in the name of peace and sanity.
And tea-time bikini shots..
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Old 18-09-2013, 21:23
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And tea-time bikini shots..
That too.
Maybe that's why the Doctor finished the Time War? . Maybe the Time Lords went to battle in very few clothes. The Day of the Doctor could turn out to be an exciting time "for the Dads", as they say, as well.
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Old 18-09-2013, 21:39
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That too.
Maybe that's why the Doctor finished the Time War? . Maybe the Time Lords went to battle in very few clothes. The Day of the Doctor could turn out to be an exciting time "for the Dads", as they say, as well.
I am sorry but I am not sure that I want to see the Doctor in a Speedo. While I am sure that some would enjoy seeing him running around with his sonic tucked in his speedo, I'm sure the BBC will draw the line!
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:10
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I am sorry but I am not sure that I want to see the Doctor in a Speedo. While I am sure that some would enjoy seeing him running around with his sonic tucked in his speedo, I'm sure the BBC will draw the line!
It gets worse, there will be three Doctors running around in speedos.
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:20
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It gets worse, there will be three Doctors running around in speedos.
Does Matt get to say "Bow Ties and Speedos are Cool!"
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:39
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Thongs and Relative Dimensions In Speedos..
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:45
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Does Matt get to say "Bow Ties and Speedos are Cool!"
Yes, and then the Cybermen will delete the speedos. or the Daleks will exterminate them.
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:45
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Seriously? Intelligent Dr who fans Raving About Trunks?
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Old 18-09-2013, 23:54
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Rant Warning!

Has there been any official confirmation that Hurt is the Time War Doctor?

Although I reckon he probably is, I thought to myself earlier "What would I write if I had the task of writing the 50th Anniversary episode"?

The answer somewhat surprised me. I wouldn't mention the time war at all. I'd go back to the very beginning, before The Doctor and Susan were exiles and show why they left Gallifrey in the first place. This would be the obvious place to celebrate the 50th anniversary as it does not alienate new or classic fans (although I personally see it as one long series with a few breaks here and there) and goes right back to the beginning. The Doctor must have had a good reason for fleeing Gallifrey. So Hurt would either be playing a younger William Hartnell, or a previous incarnation. Perhaps the apochryphal The Other.

But then again either of those options, and an underwhelming backstory could probably upset all fans, and might be the worst possible way to celebrate it. Time war seems like a safe bet.
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