If I was ITV and throwing the amout of money that they do at their Champions League rights, I'd want more than barely double what they get for the cheap filler they usually show on Tuesday nights for my investment.
I believe ITV's next match is Celtic vs. Barcelona. I'd expect that to rate higher than last night for many reasons.

And not to mention that Syco's hands are largely tied to ITV whilst Britain's Got Talent remains the bigger show of the pair, because if Syco moved elsewhere Ant & Dec wouldn't be able to follow them, leaving BGT seriously damaged goods.


As opposed to the smaller difference between 10pm and 10.50pm at other times of night? (Sorry )



They also aired that Susan Boyle documentary, and for a time showed the American variants of BGT and XF.
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Oh you know what I mean.

Yet another show falls in the celebrity trap - did the celeb special actually rate any better than regular editions. I suspect the reason the revival worked is it's probably the only primetime game show (other than lottery shows) that actually features real people at the moment. Pretty sure too I read an interview with Stephen Mulhern saying they wouldn't do more than one celeb special a series - well they've truly broke that rule now.

How do Fridays ratings compare to the rest of the week for This Morning

I ask because on here Ruth and Eamon are a lot popular then Phil and Holly

What about The Cube?

And that celebrity special rated a little above 4m. Not the worst or best performance of the series.

Do X Factor and Stricly share the same audience? Going back to 2009 and before when they clashed most weeks in the early evening slot both shows still did well.

Doc Martin's opener had an official of 9.04m/9.51m (exc/inc +1), an increase of +1.44m/+1.55m from the overnight. This was more than New Tricks shown the previous day (+1.27m) but much of this difference (if not all) will be due to the adverts being stripped out of Doc Martin.


It helps to have a population 27% higher than the UK's.


The last time was Wednesday 28 August. Tonight's was an hour, however, as will be the next two Wednesday editions at least.


As noted, X Factor starts at 20:20, so just a five-minute clash. I still think Strictly will move to 18:30 the following week when it goes super-sized. It won't end until about 20:30 so X Factor will probably still be finishing later than ITV would like, if they don't dare clash.

The latest actual finish time for The X Factor in 2012 was 22:31 on 13 October, but it was scheduled until 22:35.

22:25-22:30 - 6.8m
22:30-22:35 - 4.4m

Figures from Colin Robertson via cylon6; not sure if he included +1.

In defence of The One Show (that felt weird to type) tonight's show had the rather bizarre combination of Usain Bolt and Brian Cox as guests which seems worthy of an hour slot. Not sure who they have lined up for the next couple of weeks however. And frankly any show that can find a more oddly matched choice of guests than that for a single show deserves some kind of award.

"That Dog Can Dance" would never have seen the light of day had it been created by another production company other than Syco. Absolute barrel scraping light entertainment and itv seem to be deluded by this company.

I agree but its not going to stop is it?

I believe Simon Cowell has hypnotised the nation. Like 'The Master' on Doctor Who who used the sound of drums to get into everyones psyche, Cowell has put poison into the ITV airwaves. If you watch ITV, listen very very carefully. You can hear it. "You will follow me. You will love me. You can't throw in the towel, for I'm the mighty Simon Cowell". All ITV bosses have been turned into cybermen. They will obey the syco king. All those who fail to worship are deleted. After all you don't hear about Steve Brookstein anymore!

Nurse !

To be fair, it was very different to the usual light entertainment programmes - a bit like That Puppet Show.

I can see the logic; it just didn't pay off. Considering the success of Ashleigh and Pudsey, I think ITV would have been tempted even if the idea had come from another production company or in house.

be careful. The BARB weekly reach figures are only for ITV SD, and don't include HD or +1...

K

If Strictly keeps moving further into primetime, then i think ITV should push X Factor forward to 7.30 or even 7pm and have a full on clash.Dent Strictly's average as well. Or even better, finish TXF 20mins or so after Striclty to get the biggest peak of the night.

This whole situation though is reminiscent of the situation with TVUK and BGT, only the BBC did the same with TVUK pushing it back so it started directly after BGT. Samuel hailed that as a good move for the TVUK, why not TXF i wonder .....mmmm.

You sound like Samuel. Keen to just dent SCD to make XF have a bigger peak! Samuel isn't allowed to "crush" ITV but you are allowed to "dent" BBC. I think everyone on here are all as bad as each other. All of us clearly have an agenda. Mine is to prove that ITV bosses are Cybermen.

This is something I dont get either. Why all these gameshows have to be about celebs and charity. Its not what gameshows are supposed to be about and not to me half as interesting. I quite like the Catchphrase revival but no way will I watch these.

It'll be interesting to see how that rates. I can see the logic of extending to an hour on a Wednesday, as otherwise it would require finding some half-hour show to fling up against Corrie. And as you say, they can justify it if they have an interesting mix of guests and features.

Back to yesterday, an even stronger Tuesday overall than last week for BBC TV, with 24.0%, 7.2%, 1.4% and 0.9% for the four numbered BBC channels (3.0% in total for the others). ITV's football helped it to an all-day share of about 17.8% (inc +1), better than usual on a Tuesday. Its multichannels had 2.6%, 2.7% and 0.9% respectively (inc +1). Channel 5 was still below 4% (inc +1) thanks to its Super Spa stinker and Channel 4 had 6.0% (inc +1), give or take 0.1%.

Some more ratings:
- Pointless surged by 280k to 3.40m, tape-checked
- The One Show grew to 4.18m (21%) tape-checked
- Dave Gorman: Modern Life Is Goodish on Dave started with 474k (3.0%) (inc +1), above the slot average of 380k (2.2%)

Sources: Channel 4 Sales, Screenwatch, ITV Media, Broadcast (respectively)

I wasn't being serious. I'm not as obsessed as Samuel is with crushing other channels. I just want both channels (preferably ITV) to have good ratings and have a raft of successful shows.

I dont think it was very different to any light entertainment show and was a producer with Elaine Beddell going yeah Pudsey really popular this year lets do Britians Got Talent again but heres the twist..its all with dogs.

Just as Pointless does well with celeb specials so will Catchphrase.

Do you know what The Chase got?

The problem with most light entertainment shows is that you can claim it's a rip off of something else. I don't think it was the worse idea in the world. They've commissioned worse!

Exactly - Catchphrase is unsurprisingly all about the catchphrases. The game in the studio is somewhat secondary to the game at home, so why commission numerous celeb episodes when they're not needed. Looking at the first series ratings the celeb edition was the 3rd worst rated of the series.

Although I can understand why All Star Mr & Mrs use celebrities, the pretence it's for charity even for a run of the mill weekly game show is a bit insulting when some of the reported fees they've paid for contestants to appear on (a third of) a one hour non-spectacular TV show is excess of the prize they can win. There is no reason though for Family Fortunes to be celeb based - and considering how stable it's ratings are it's unbelieveable ITV haven't looked to at least have a regular series alongside it, whether that's a number of 30 minute episodes which can be dropped in the schedule as and when or more 45/60 minutes versions to air at the weekend.

The celeb editions killed Millionaire - they forgot what the core concept of the show was and it went from giving the public the chance to become millionaires to giving millionaires the chance to win a few thousand quid for charity.