Haha, be strong! Thanks for the share, which year on year is down -4.7 points or roughly -5.5 points with +1.


I would have thought BARB made absolutely sure the revised ratings they released were correct. They were slated by their clients for the error.


There was some momentum around that time last year: the final auditions show the week before was a Saturday series high (up +900k/+800k on the previous Saturday), and then it rose a further +500k/+500k for Bootcamp.

X Factor has seen night-on-night increases of 2-3m in the past, even this early on in the competition. Just saying - if it gains enough momentum through word of mouth tonight, its possible. Not that I fully expect it to, of course. It could realistically be at around 8.8m.

Isn't Atlantis then the highest rating drama premiere of the autumn for a brand new series?

Looked at a bit of "The X Factor" just now on itv but it looks really heavy. Lots of pressure, tears and contestants getting booted off. Not much fun involved in it and a bit cruel. What makes me switch off is the fakery involved in the show and its insincerity to the contestants and also the loyal viewers who believe it all. I reminds me of the Saturday wrestling matches!

So far, yes!

It is. Merlin got 5.49m last year.

Just watched Atlantis, it was 'ok', not fantastic but not terrible. However i still maintain that it will rate between 4-6million during its run. If it does flop however, then the BBC have got some problems, considering it is supposed to have a five year arc. But i do miss Merlin.

Yes, last autumn's Merlin series premiere on 6 October got 5.49m (23.5%) overnight which timeshifted to 7.12m. It will be interesting to see where Atlantis's overnight of 5.62m (25.3%) gets to in the officials.


Your viewing won't be counted unless you are one of the 5,000 or so BARB households with a special box.

http://www.barb.co.uk/resources/refe...-do-what-we-do

Itv are failing to get 5.6 at 9pm some weeknights never mind up against its best rated weekend show "Atlantis" should be happy with that.

They already commissioned 10 for 2014.

As noted in an earlier reply I posted on here the other day that I feel 10 is too many weeks to run a series like this that is very subject dependent and requires a long viewer commitment.

Common sense decrees 2 x 5 episode runs spread out in Spring/Autumn. Would get a better average IMO.

I think it was a good enough start for people to keep on watching it. It will fluctuate a bit, some weeks slightly down, some weeks sometimes up, but I think it will be far from the BBC axeman come the end of the run. Infact I foresee a 'recommission announcement' in a matter of weeks!

Atlantis will timeshift to 7.3million is my bet, so around 1.7million.

Like who? Juila Stevenson. Mark Addy and Sarah Parish are all well known. "Atlantis" had a good pace and was a bit more fun than the very serious "Doctor Who" has been of late it had a lightness to it that is a bit missing from "Doctor Who"

Not of it drops below 4million it won't, but hopefully that won't happen. Though i wonder if it did flop, whether the BBC would consider bringing Merlin back?

There is no reason why it should drop below 4 million. It seems to be only a few on here and throughout twitter who were moaning about it. It will do OK. People are happy to write things off too quickly these days. Next week I predict the ratings to be 5.2m and it will remain thereafter between 4.8m and 5.2m for the entire run, with consolidated figures giving it an average of around 6.1m for the series.

How can they bring Merlin back? The very last scene of Merlin was set in 2012, a juggernaut lorry goes whizzing past and a grumpy, sad Merlin is walking along the road awaiting the ressurrection of his beloved Arthur. Not really a 'bring back Merlin' scenario! It was too final.

I think The X Factor would rate even worse with more of a clash against Strictly. It's not the all conquering show of 2010 where it could go anywhere and get a great audience. The competition can knock 1/2 million off.

That Stepping Out rating really is painful, literally atrociously and unequivocally AWFUL!

That's all it need's to do.

Ken

I bet even TV Burp repeats would rate better than it! Especially against Strictly.

I don't know what ITV were thinking. They'll be hoping that Celebrity Chase is a success which it can be - as long as there is an anti-Strictly audience for that kind of show.

Looking at the C4 Sales website and GOLD are going to be showing TV Burp repeats from November, I didn't think GOLD showed many ITV shows and especially ones like TV Burp that like you say would probably rate ok for ITV or ITV2, be interesting to see how it rates for GOLD.
UKTV do seem to be expanding there programmes quite a bit this year which is good to see.

But, what if, and it could have been a realistic if, Stepping Out was a hit? ITV obviously had high hopes. They went, they tried, they lost! They move on. The sun will still rise, the world will still turn. Christmas will still come and go.

The Saturday ratings are damaged by the fact only die hard fans, or family and friends of the contestants, needs too watch on Saturday. You can watch tonight and see everything you need in a one hour package. The Saturday show has become the equivalent of QI XL or HIGABMNFY. Except that it broadcasts before the edited show not after it.


didn't Robin Hood launch with c 8m?

I can't remember what Robin Hood launched with. Did it actually air against TXF though?

I'm glad Atlantis did well. I thought it was a decent replacement for Merlin! The ratings will dip next week, but hopefully not by too much!

I do think ITV's Saturdays are going to look considerably dodgy even into January. We'll see how the coming Saturdays do, but they haven't built a solid schedule around the big show as BBC1 have.

Going into January, Splash will have increased (i.e actual) competition from a show that in theory should rate higher for its third series as it has lesser competition and will be earlier in the year. The only things possibly against it are people not being ready for another singing show so soon after X Factor, and the changes made not working out, but I can't see either stopping it owning the night.

I wonder if it would be better to move Dancing on Ice back to Saturdays for its last series, and have the results either later or early evening Sunday as they currently totally stiff against Midwife. You could then have this (I cannot remember exact duration of said shows so I'm making this up ):

6.00: Dancing On Ice
8.00: Splash
9.00: Take Me Out?

And the latter shows could move earlier once the DOI show shortens, or DOI starting later

And for Sundays:

6.00: Catchphrase
6.30: DOI Results
7.00: A light drama a la Heartbeat would be perfect
8.00: Family Fortunes

Sundays would probably end up rating the same roughly, but the weekend as a whole would look stronger, and I think it's going to need to be this January as the ride won't be so easy as before.