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The Ratings Thread (Part 53)
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F1Ken
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“6.8m is poor for what effectively is the BBC's Downton - wasn't it getting 9m or so a couple of years ago?

Same story for Gypsy Christening really - C4 really screwed that up by publicly axing Gypsy Weddings and then continuing to produce new shows and stick them anywhere in the schedules. Had they looks after it better I'm sure the various spin offs would be rating better now.

Bake Off - ridiculous rating but much deserved. Poor and undeserved rating for the football when ITV for once went for the big game rather than the easy money.

And 71% of the audience watching Sarah Millican! Rating of the night. ”

I'm sorry but I just cannot take that seriously at all.

A near 30% share on a weekday slot in 2013 sounds pritty darn good to me, so was Doc martin yesterday and so was Downton on Sunday.

I see nothing to criticise at all.

On the talk of a BBC Gymnastics LE show, it's not the most original idea of them all but ITV's ideas this year haven't been that original and they have outperformed the BBC's awful sill little efforts by a mile.

It sounds to me though like a replacement for lets dance. Like strictly at first (If it does go ahead) it will probably be in aid of charity. I doubt Let's dance id back if this goes ahed.

but as for the idea it's "meh" really, If however the program is made well with a good presenter and line up it could do well. As I keep saying "If it's entertaining, enjoyable and well made. No matter what it is people will watch." Bake off proves my point. What a stunning number.

Ken
yorkie100
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Still miles behind Doc Martin.... Despite big name recasting.”

Since when was it a competition between Doc Martin and New Tricks?
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Officially, yes. And it got about 9m in the officials just the other week....”

New Tricks hasn't hit 9m this series.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Still miles behind Doc Martin.... Despite big name recasting.”

Doc Martin is miles behind Doc Martin in the ratings these days. Easier timeslot so no excuse for it really.
hyperstarsponge
02-10-2013
Sarah Millican isn't funny, That show was awful.
Hassaan13
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Doc Martin is miles behind Doc Martin in the ratings these days. Easier timeslot so no excuse for it really. ”

Are we talking about New Tricks here?
mintbro
02-10-2013
This Morning celebrates its 25th birthday tomorrow. How are the ratings for it these days?
Hassaan13
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“This Morning celebrates its 25th birthday tomorrow. How are the ratings for it these days?”

I would assume around the 800k-1m mark.

Oh, and I've hit 15k. I'm on here way too much.

Are there any other ratings providers (e.g, digital-i) that give out free trials?
yorkie100
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Are we talking about New Tricks here?”

I think Cylon is pointing out that Doc Martins ratings are down about 1m average this year.
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Are we talking about New Tricks here?”

We are indeed. Or at least I hope we are or else my stats are wrong!
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I think Cylon is pointing out that Doc Martins ratings are down about 1m average this year.”

Yes I am.

New Tricks and Doc Martin are being compared by GeorgeS and Robbie. New Tricks has never reached the ratings highs of Doc Martin but Doc Martin isn't reaching them now either. New Tricks has faced tougher competition on Tuesday with the football and it always does better on Monday. Why BBC1 never tried it on Sunday I don't know.

Brekkie said New Tricks was BBC1's blockbuster equivalent to Downton and it's not. That will be Call The Midwife but it too was down this year and never cleared 11m unlike series 1.
Rowan Hedge
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“If it's the best of the bunch and doing only a 1.4, it doesn't say much for the rest.”

CBS is going to have a bad season ratings wise its slate is pretty poor ,Brooklyn 99 is actually ok but I agree a 1.4 is poor
Hassaan13
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“We are indeed. Or at least I hope we are or else my stats are wrong!”

I particularly asked because your post said this:

Doc Martin is miles behind Doc Martin in the ratings these days. Easier timeslot so no excuse for it really.

See the mistake?
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I particularly asked because your post said this:

Doc Martin is miles behind Doc Martin in the ratings these days. Easier timeslot so no excuse for it really.

See the mistake? ”

I meant it as in Doc Martin isn't rating as well as it used to. That's intentional!
NeilVW
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“Alexander Armstrong & Richard Osman are the perfect double act for a teatime quiz. Bradley Walsh tries his best but The Chase looks very repetitive and has way too many questions. With zero breaks and under 10 questions Pointless is a ratings banker. I think it ought be moved to 7.00pm against EM whenever TOS is on hiatus.”

Pointless has about 10 categories rather than questions: the contestants have to come up with a lot more than 10 answers collectively!

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Brekkie said New Tricks was BBC1's blockbuster equivalent to Downton and it's not. That will be Call The Midwife but it too was down this year and never cleared 11m unlike series 1.”

Not forgetting Sherlock, which cleared 10m twice officially in January 2012, although it appears to be biennial (like Doc Martin) and has short runs (unlike the Doc). That's probably back on New Year's Day again, do you reckon?
sn_22
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Agents of SHIELD down huge from last week dropping more than a point in the demo. That's a 32% week-on-week drop. The rest of the ABC line-up didn't fare much better with The Goldbergs down 30% and Trophy Wife down nearly 40% and Lucky 7 down 30% at 10PM. CBS also down across the board week-on-week with NCIS dropping two tenths, NCIS: LA three tenths and Person of Interest three tenths.

On NBC The Voice was down two-tenths week-on-week for its second Tuesday outing with Chicago Fire steady as a rock at 10PM. The good news for Fox is that The Mindy Project seems to have hit rock bottom its steady vs. last week. The bad news is that the rest of the line-up is still falling. Dads dropped two tenths, Brooklyn nearly half a point and New Girl was down two tenths failing to crack a 2. I think that might equal the shows series low (but might be wrong).”

Miserable night for ABC. Must be painful to see a show they've put an extraordinary amount of effort into pulling ordinary numbers already - but it's not exactly a huge surprise. I imagine within a few weeks Modern Family will be the only thing left on the network pulling more than a 3. Still, that might well prove to be one more show than Fox.

NBC the big winner again last night. They have to be pleased with Chicago Fire, which is doing everything that could be asked of it.
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by Rowan Hedge:
“CBS is going to have a bad season ratings wise its slate is pretty poor ,Brooklyn 99 is actually ok but I agree a 1.4 is poor”

US television is clueless about what shows are true hits and which are hits purely due to timeslot.

CBS weakened themselves on Monday and I don't think Person Of Interest was ready to move yet. ABC could keep tumbling and end up a regular 4th at this rate. NBC is doing well but they don't see that some shows won't do well away from The Voice. Revolution anyone?
cylon6
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Not forgetting Sherlock, which cleared 10m twice officially in January 2012, although it appears to be biennial (like Doc Martin) and has short runs (unlike the Doc). That's probably back on New Year's Day again, do you reckon?”

I think everybody was shocked that Midwife did better than Sherlock. I can't see Sherlock being on before next year. It's too crowded for it to fit in now. The first episode of series 3 could be huge but BBC1 need to keep it at the same time each week.
Hassaan13
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I meant it as in Doc Martin isn't rating as well as it used to. That's intentional! ”

Ignore that post.
i4u
02-10-2013
The Evening Standard has an article by the editorial director of 'London Live in which he states, "we've largely lost the habit of all watching the same TV programmes simultaneously", is that true?

Have the ratings for +1 or iplayer etc ever outstripped a first run showing?
ftv
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I think everybody was shocked that Midwife did better than Sherlock. I can't see Sherlock being on before next year. It's too crowded for it to fit in now. The first episode of series 3 could be huge but BBC1 need to keep it at the same time each week.”

Sherlock is scheduled for March
derek500
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by i4u:
“The Evening Standard has an article by the editorial director of 'London Live in which he states, "we've largely lost the habit of all watching the same TV programmes simultaneously", is that true?

Have the ratings for +1 or iplayer etc ever outstripped a first run showing?”

They have for Sky viewers. An episode of Arrow had only 210k live viewers out of a total of 1.49m.

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/281
AlexiR
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“US television is clueless about what shows are true hits and which are hits purely due to timeslot.

CBS weakened themselves on Monday and I don't think Person Of Interest was ready to move yet. ABC could keep tumbling and end up a regular 4th at this rate. NBC is doing well but they don't see that some shows won't do well away from The Voice. Revolution anyone?”

In fairness Revolution wasn't doing well with The Voice by the end of season one and actually came back more or less in line with where it ended season one (which was slightly miraculous really). Chicago Fire meanwhile was doing relatively well on Wednesday night last year which is why they moved it behind The Voice this year. But NBC is more than aware that The Voice provides a boost to shows that run out of it. Although as the likes of Smash and Revolution have both proven in reality that boost is pretty short term. If audiences don't like what they're seeing they won't stick with it even if its running out of The Voice. There's only so much a big lead-in can do.

When it comes to CBS its easy to argue that Monday is a problem of their own making (and I wouldn't disagree) but at the same time they had limited options. Two and a Half Men just isn't strong enough any more to anchor that block leaving them with limited options. They gambled on 2 Broke Girls being stronger than it ultimately was and its hard to fault them on that. Moving Big Bang back to Monday's would have been (and still would be) an easy solution to the problem but it leaves them in a huge hole on Thursday. You can however maybe fault CBS for sticking with 2 Broke Girls as the 9PM anchor for a second season on Monday. I'm not sure why they thought things would change this year and not just get progressively worse.

Person of Interest is a tricky one. In the short term at least the decision to move it seems to be working out. The Crazy Ones/Two and a Half Men combo will likely rate more strongly than Person of Interest did in that slot for at least the first few weeks of the season. Whether that holds remains to be seen. And until this week I would have bet on Person of Interest out performing Vegas last year. Yes Person of Interest might have been down year-on-year but the overall net gains for CBS would have been worth it. The problem is Person of Interest currently isn't living up to its end of the bargain. I think they made the right call and regardless of whether they were expanding comedy on Thursday I don't think they should have stuck with Person of Interest in that 9PM slot. It wasn't going to magically breakout as the big new drama hit they wanted this year. They needed to try something else there and given the slate of shows they had comedy was by far their best option.
Salv*
02-10-2013
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D with a huge drop, not good! Shame to see New Girl that low
Meanwhile, Chicago Fire beats last weeks record rating with another record rating, well done to that!
i4u
02-10-2013
Originally Posted by derek500:
“They have for Sky viewers. An episode of Arrow had only 210k live viewers out of a total of 1.49m.

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/281”

That seems the exception? The rest of the programmes illustrated show most people watch on the day?

I wonder how it works on Dave or Pick TV where they strip the same edition of a programme day after day, month after month.
H of De Vil
02-10-2013
ITV2 releases the hounds this Halloween

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...n#.UkyFLhAjrAk

This could be good
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