Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Viewers may, but the programming schedulers, commissioners, et al don't. Otherwise Eastenders and Corrie shouldn't be spoken in the same breath. One soap traditionally focuses on the taboos of society, the other intended to expose a television audience to the then invisible working class. They both have turned to sensationalism in recent years, just for the sake of ratings. Both want their show to be the best that British TV has to offer. And so does SCD and TXF.
At the end of the day, both programmes are entertainment for the masses on a Saturday night. Even Craig off SCD acknowledges that. Hence why people align both shows. It's what both networks have to offer on a Saturday primetime.”
“Viewers may, but the programming schedulers, commissioners, et al don't. Otherwise Eastenders and Corrie shouldn't be spoken in the same breath. One soap traditionally focuses on the taboos of society, the other intended to expose a television audience to the then invisible working class. They both have turned to sensationalism in recent years, just for the sake of ratings. Both want their show to be the best that British TV has to offer. And so does SCD and TXF.
At the end of the day, both programmes are entertainment for the masses on a Saturday night. Even Craig off SCD acknowledges that. Hence why people align both shows. It's what both networks have to offer on a Saturday primetime.”
Commissioners and schedulers absolutely expect different things from those shows. Strictly does its job very well and BBC1 are very happy. X Factor does its job very well and makes ITV a lot of money. They both get big ratings and those numbers always get the headlines. But when you look at it, the audiences are very different (median ages 39/59) so the shows are naturally going to be quite different in tone and style. Generally shows that have a younger appeal are a bit louder and in your face.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“My gripe with The Sun goes beyond their love of TXF, Hillsborough and Milly Dowler are far worse. When not printing endless articles about trashy television and zelebs, they print endless lies and sensationalism. I'm not a football fan, but if I was a Liverpool fan who had been at Hillsborough, I would avoid it like the plague.
In ratings terms TXF still does well, and has probably helped ITV out of a difficult period in the noughties, but SCD is the bigger and better show now.
And finally, ITV were numb for ditching Popstars The Rivals as the format was popular and should have lasted more than two series.”
“My gripe with The Sun goes beyond their love of TXF, Hillsborough and Milly Dowler are far worse. When not printing endless articles about trashy television and zelebs, they print endless lies and sensationalism. I'm not a football fan, but if I was a Liverpool fan who had been at Hillsborough, I would avoid it like the plague.
In ratings terms TXF still does well, and has probably helped ITV out of a difficult period in the noughties, but SCD is the bigger and better show now.
And finally, ITV were numb for ditching Popstars The Rivals as the format was popular and should have lasted more than two series.”
The Rivals would have become very repetitive, particularly in the mid 00's where pop bands didn't really exist. Also, the team that adapted Popstars into The Rivals went to work for Simon Cowell plus they also had Pop Idol on the shelf when they made their final decision in December 2004. And the pitch for a third version was some kind of singing meets dating hybrid (Popstars: Boy Meets Girl was the working title IIRC).
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Is that definately the proper Cher and not Cher Lloyd - former XF 2010 contestant?”
“Is that definately the proper Cher and not Cher Lloyd - former XF 2010 contestant?”
It's 80's week and it's the old Cher, yes.
I'd forgotten that! Far worse than BBC One did on BGT final night, when The Voice scuttled off to the day before and a Pointless Celebrities repeat was thrust into peak hours.