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The Ratings Thread (Part 53)
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wizzywick
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Wasn't it me that said that SCD will beat X Factor yesterday but you didn't believe me, I was right. Wonder if the retro programs on BBC2 will rate well ”

The programmes are going down well in my household!
hyperstarsponge
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“The programmes are going down well in my household!”

Watch out Tipping Point, Deal Or No Deal and Escape To The Country. BBC Two may take away your viewers.
cylon6
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Roy Clarke= not famous for original ideas. ”

At their peaks Summer Wine during the first Foggy drag Keeping Up Appearances and Open All Hours were some of the best family sitcoms on TV.
tim18
07-10-2013
How did homeland do yesterday and that david mitchell show?
Jaycee Dove
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by vauxhall1964:
“well I mean, who wants to listen to Gloria Hunniford or Brian Blessed for an hour?”

Brian is very entertaining once you learn how to tune out that voice. We once did a TV chat show together in Dublin and I was flying on to Belfast for another interview but he asked me to go by car with him instead. It was certainly an illuminating journey and lasted much longer than an hour. Though somewhere around the Mountains of Mourne and his third story about the fun they all had on Z Cars I did notice our driver wandering a little across the road as if he was now half asleep. Possibly Brian's soporific voice made the ITV audience all nod off on Friday, too?
ftv
07-10-2013
The early Z Cars were all done live and Brian tells the story that the glass in the windscreens of the cars was taken out to avoid reflection of the studio lights. He said that on one occasion he put his hand through the ''windscreen'' to pick up his radio on the dashboard but no-one seemed to notice.
Mr Sirs
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by Wozza20:
“What a strange post. Why do you want the BBC to put something out to deliberately try and get Selfridge cancelled?

I am so glad you are not in charge of the BBC as their reason for being is not to try and kill off popular programmes provided by commercial PSB broadcasters. Do you really believe that the only broadcaster with a right to put out original British drama is the BBC? We are lucky a commercial broadcaster wants to do original drama in this country, and all you seem to want is to kill it!!! Bizarre!!!”



Pretty sad really. Thousands of jobs in the UK would be lost if ITV went under.


Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Whitechapel in its first and third series was more of a mainstream whodunnit crime drama. There was a murder or two, detectives who investigated it and then a resolution at the end of the three episodes - fairly standard stuff. There were dark undertones to it and some gothic elements but it was fairly well censored with no nudity, sex or prostitution which Ripper Street depicts. If you've seen this series of Whitechapel however, its completely gone over the top with the gothic horror theme and strange supernatural-esque story arcs which has really alienated the hardcore OAP crime viewing audience, partly leading to its decline in the ratings.”


Foe once (?!) I do agree with you on this - last week's episode was quite bizarre.

Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Disagree. It's a good show tonight but it doesn't seem complete without Bruce. I think perhaps they should have got O grady or someone along those lines to cover.”


Good shout! Would enjoy seeing him on the show, but as has been said elsewhere would it be too much for him?

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“The show could be hosted by anyone and the ratings would be invunerable. Its the quality of show which is tip top at the moment. Its on fire with the format at the moment. Id like Alan Carr and Melanie Sykes!”



The former IMO I can't stand, the latter is lovely...


Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Apparently none of the acts put through have 'star quality' or the charisma to get the media or casual viewers talking. They are all quite underwhelming, pub singer-ish. No talking points.”

:yawn: You and others say this every year - and yet if you look at the history of the show it has produced plenty of acts that have done rather well for themselves.

Originally Posted by Wozza20:
“It just seems odd to me that someone would watch something regularly which they are not enjoying. I give lots of programmes a try when something new comes about which looks as if it could interest me, and this is regardless of the channel it is on.

I would not continue to watch something I don't like.”


Exactly same for me.

Originally Posted by ftv:
“I'm amazed Waterloo Road has survived so long, the move to Scotland was just ridiculous.”


As said before, a stupid stupid plot decision.

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Looks like ITV aren't going to have an easy autumn. Fool Britannia must have done really badly.”

Glutton for punishment me enjoyed the 1st series, but Saturday's was unmemorable.


Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Atlantis down on last week! ...

If it's any consolation, The Chase didn't do any worse than the teatime editions.”


Difficult predicament for ITV.

Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“Agree about the trailer music, wizzywick. BBC and in fact some ITV trailers in general IMO however are awful, e.g. Downton Abbey. Look at the standards set by other channels, in my opinion Channel 5. They produced a brilliant trailer for Wentworth a few months ago.”


For those who missed it - STV played Petula Clark's DOWNTOWN over a trailer for Downton! Pathetic amateurs...



Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Don't you think SamuelW is winding you up a little bit?... and it's working, clearly!”

I don't think he has the ability to do that - he is not clever enough.

Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Could do far better tonight though with the two 'popular' judges.

What put me off TXF last night was the contestants pouring their hearts out. Bleating that they had come this far and being happy to play the last chance card.”


Enjoyed the show overall, but got to agree the sob stories were getting tiresome.

Originally Posted by sw2963:
“I am really fed up with stupid generalisations such as Strictly attracting solely pensioners. Grow up. Then again so what if it did...should we shoot people over a certain age?”


Agree - such attitudes in this country just breed an inherent disdain for senior citizens and ageism.

Originally Posted by Drifter:
“Not remotely a Gamu-gate and not going to interest even half as many people.

While I feel sorry for Melanie, she just isn't that interesting. The difference with Gamu is that she sounded brilliant yet Cheryl put through two inferior singers, one who actually screwed up at judges houses. And Gamu caused an Adele song to be huge as a result.

We're not even looking at remotely the same level. I can barely remember Melanie..”


I've forgotten her already, even though this was her 4th time. I got the feeling she was being pushed by her mum - time to stick to the day job darling.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“My XFactor informant has told me that during tonights episode, the contestant who has featured most heavily throughout the series so far in terms of singing and back story and at one-time bookies favourite to win will be eliminated. This elimination will happen right towards the end of the episode. It has been manufactured by the producers to try and create a buzz and lots of press coverage over the next few days, as the show heads into the live shows. This is a repeat of a trick the producers did in 2010 at the same stage of the competition. It worked in 2010 but viewers are more media savvy these days and might see through it as a publicity stunt and not fall for it this time.”


What a troll you are!


Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Fool Britannia? I actually watched it earlier and found it quite funny. There's also a new sketch show on BBC2 tonight which started last week at 7.30pm which is quite good.

Looking at those old Saturday schedules the other day though, the one thing that stood out was the running time of shows. They were much shorter, so there were lots of different shows in the schedules. I think shows like Strictly and X Factor run for too long in the schedules, meaning there is less variety in primetime. Strictly was enjoyable last night, but quite a slog to get through by the end at a 2 hour running time - that still didn't affect its ratings average though! X Factor is on for near enough 2 hours tonight, which is unnecessary.”


I enjoy both shows and always look forward to them - but agree they are both on for too long.

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“In YOUR opinion Madonna has a modicum of talent. In my opinion, she has masses of talent. But, I won't disagree about Timberlake. It's just I like the duet he did with Madonna a few years back. With regards to Andrea Bocelli, who the hell is she?”

"4 Minutes"! Great single.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“XFactor tweets/min has gone up from 2000/min to 10000/min in the last minute. This comes off the back of the producers' decision just now to kick out the contestant who has featured the most so far this series and was favourite to win at one stage. This publicity stunt has got people talking online. But will people actually fall for all the press reports that will inevitably happen over the next few days and will it tempt a casual audience to check out the live shows next week? That is the hope XF producers have after cynically eliminating this contestant.”


This contestant might have been favourite at one stage, but on Saturday the press were reporting the Bookies fav. at 3-1 - this was before Saturday night / Sunday night where she was kept on the show.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“You're like a one man anti-PR machine.

Anyone who actually watches the show knows she didn't deserve to get through - and unlike last night both judges made exactly the right choices tonight.

Anyone who doesn't watch the show or doesn't enjoy the show should have better things to do than trawl through Twitter looking for negative comments.”

Obsessive we might say...

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Sorry I just saw people posting that some event to boost "Downton Abbey" ratings was to happen tonight without the press knowing and that someone was to be killed off in order to inflate its popularity.”


You mean resident BBC mouthpiece Samuel? Have you fallen for his ramblings too?

Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“It was a pretty bog standard panel show. And even though it was heavily trailed, it featured the same faces you see on any other panel show. So nothing to draw viewers in really.

Just looking ahead to next week, what did the first X Factor live show get last year?”


Yes, no great shakes there - recorded and watched, not sure if I'll watch again.


Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Reviving Birds Of A Feather with original cast - awful idea

Reviving Open All Hours without the lead - brilliant idea”


Exactly! And where are all the BBC fans who slated ITV for reviving Catchphrase, Keyhole & Surprise Surprise?

Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“I've offered no comment on either.

I could go on about Pat & Cabbage for hours, though.”


Not a direct comparison though - George was referring to comedies revived, not new comedies.
ftv
07-10-2013
Might be a bit difficult to revive Dad's Army with the original cast
Mr Sirs
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Might be a bit difficult to revive Dad's Army with the original cast”



That was a great show - absolutely timeless.

Sadly, as you have eluded to () might be difficult to film a revival...

Only Ian Lavender alive out of the main cast?
johnnymc
07-10-2013
Interesting to see that "EastEnders" timeshifts to above 7 million for all episodes according to BARB. And all above "Emmerdale" in the charts. The "Downton Abbey" figure moved considerably to whopping great 11.4 million.
wizzywick
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“"4 Minutes"! Great single.

Exactly! And where are all the BBC fans who slated ITV for reviving Catchphrase, Keyhole & Surprise Surprise?

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Yes. 4 Minutes. Really good track. And the 50 year Madonna outclassing a younger Timberlake in the video too!

I think reviving Open All Hours for a one off special is OK, as long as it is just intended for a Christmas special and not a series. I would be a bit dubious about a full series though. As I am about Birds of a Feather. Sadly, I suspect the BBC already have plans for a series!
johnnymc
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Yes. 4 Minutes. Really good track. And the 50 year Madonna outclassing a younger Timberlake in the video too!

I think reviving Open All Hours for a one off special is OK, as long as it is just intended for a Christmas special and not a series. I would be a bit dubious about a full series though. As I am about Birds of a Feather. Sadly, I suspect the BBC already have plans for a series!”

Be positive, they may be both funny, better than "Pets Win Prizes" or "Nick Knowles fixes your house"
Mr Sirs
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Yes. 4 Minutes. Really good track. And the 50 year Madonna outclassing a younger Timberlake in the video too!

I think reviving Open All Hours for a one off special is OK, as long as it is just intended for a Christmas special and not a series. I would be a bit dubious about a full series though. As I am about Birds of a Feather. Sadly, I suspect the BBC already have plans for a series!”


I missed the link for this - is it a follow up or complete redoing of the show? Is David Jason reprising his role or is it to be a completely new cast? I think Jason as the new owner of the shop might work - i.e Granville inherited the shop from his Uncle! Interesting one though...
johnnymc
07-10-2013
David Jason is likely to take the role that Barker took and his son Granvilles character. Its likely Graville will have become like Arkwright himself. I think Jason is a good actor and will bring the best from the script, I would love to see him back on BBC One full time and think its sad that his last comedy project was so dire as he is very talented and warm on screen
wizzywick
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“I missed the link for this - is it a follow up or complete redoing of the show? Is David Jason reprising his role or is it to be a completely new cast? I think Jason as the new owner of the shop might work - i.e Granville inherited the shop from his Uncle! Interesting one though...”

David jason reprises his role as Granville who has inherited the shop from his late Uncle. Together with his son, Granville runs the shop and also reprising her role as Nurse Gladys is Lynda Baron. It will be written by original writer Roy Clarke.
johnnymc
07-10-2013
What makes you think this wont be as successful as the original Wizzywick..."The Liver Birds" revival? it was shockingly bad!
wizzywick
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“What makes you think this wont be as successful as the original Wizzywick..."The Liver Birds" revival? it was shockingly bad!”

Well, I think it'll be fine as a one off, but as I say, as a series I don't think it would succeed.
johnnymc
07-10-2013
I would like to see more comedy on BBC One whether they be revivals until new ideas come along, we should get new comedy all the time really, there must be writers out there..
wizzywick
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I would like to see more comedy on BBC One whether they be revivals until new ideas come along, we should get new comedy all the time really, there must be writers out there..”

I've heard Carla Lane is writing a new sitcom for the BBC. (Unfortunately!)

And, there's that Birds of a Feather creators comedy "Led Astray" with Paul O'Grady and Cilla Black being filmed too, although that is just a pilot, expected for a Christmas TX.
mintbro
07-10-2013
Mrs Brown is the only current comedy I could see returning for a Christmas special in the future.

Oh btw everyone we have posted you the details about the annual Christmas meetup. This year the theme is Upstairs downstairs bedrooms ( see what we done there).

Hopefully most of you on here will turn up with your partners and we shall have some fun
Jaycee Dove
07-10-2013
Anyone who saw the Birds of a Feather stage show knows that the trio have so much fun together it translates to the audience, So I do think this has a chance of good ratings. They have all been on TV plenty since the show ended as well so not unknown even to those who never saw the 1980s/1990s series.

Not sure how they will get around the way the BOAF stage show ended - though. Just pretend it was a dream ?

I agree that we should reserve judgement on Open All Hours potentially becoming a series without Ronnie Barker's presence until we see how it works as a one off. But it is an interesting idea and will grab viewers at Christmas undoubtedly. It has David Jason and nostalgia. All they need now is to cast Nicholas Lyndhurst as his nephew in the old role that David once had.

And for Christmas 2014 recast the 'Library Mob' in Homfirth - updated to suit the 21st century - as Last of the Summer Winos.
SamuelW
07-10-2013
I still can't understand how XFactor averaged less than SCD even though it had a free run between 8 to 9pm. How did this major judges houses episode peak lower than any of the Sunday episodes so far? Very strange. It is not good this is happening just before the crucial live shows. Maybe viewers have seen the final lot of contestants and decided they're too boring or not good enough to invest their viewing time into. SCD must've thrashed XF by about a million head to head by the way. This is a bad sign for Itv if they ever dare to schedule XF at 7pm on a Saturday night, it would take a beating every week from SCD.

Also anyone else fed up with the generalisations about SCDs audience being old. So what if they're old anyway, what's wrong with that? No one talks about Corrie and doenton have old audiences so why the focus on ScD? XFs audience may well be younger but they're also less well earning , poorer and of a lower socio economic class compared to SCDs audience. ScD was up year on year last night, XF down over 1.5million.
Andy23
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Open All Hours back for a Christmas special on BBC One
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...christmas.html”

I expect it'll be a bit poor but rate really well. It'll basically just be all the jokes that were spread across many series shoved all in one episode in a modern setting without much of an actual plot. They'll still have the dodgy till etc. I doubt it would work as a series because of that although on Boxing Day everyone will demanding that it is.

Why they decided to bring back a comedy where the lead is no longer with us is quite strange, maybe next year they could do One Foot in the Grave but without Victor as of course he is dead (the character that is)

Hopefully for BBC1 it'll be a bit better than the last time David Jason appeared in a comedy on the channel.
mintbro
07-10-2013
Oooh Thankyou for the quick responses to the Christmas Party meetup. Will be good to see so many of you there, how many of you are planning on staying? Don't forget your car keys?

The evening will start with the annual ratings talk, awards then the party really begins

Limited tickets so do be quick
cylon6
07-10-2013
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Interesting to see that "EastEnders" timeshifts to above 7 million for all episodes according to BARB. And all above "Emmerdale" in the charts. The "Downton Abbey" figure moved considerably to whopping great 11.4 million.”

Are you including HD and +1 for the Emmerdale figures?
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