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Are you there George?
![]() My view, which is unpopular with the instant success mantra that permeates every post here is that it takes time to turn things around. Im perfectly happy to be ridiculed and ignored for that view by the fantasy schedule/ fantasy presenters posters whose CVs are filled with past achievements of delivering instant tv ratings success. |
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I think The Paradise hasn't established itself yet. Being on Tuesdays against football didn't help it build an audience. Might not rate much better than Antiques Roadshow.
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Have a look at this from a Doctor Who news page: Quote:
BBC America may have inadvertently revealed the time of broadcast for the 50th Anniversary Special, The Day of the Doctor, when they updated their advance schedules for November online. The details (now removed) indicated that after a week-long celebration of the series, it would premiere on 23rd November at 2:45pm Eastern time, meaning a UK broadcast of the 75-minute special at 7:45pm!
The BBC are unlikely to confirm such a definite time until much nearer broadcast; however, this is the first indication that Doctor Who might well occupy a prime-time slot on Saturday evening (possibly following the popular Strictly Come Dancing). Other programming planned by BBC America includes the US premiere of An Adventure in Space and Time for Friday 22nd November at 9:00pm (this, however, is not expected to be simulcast with BBC2 in the UK!). This will be preceded by Explaining Doctor Who, a documentary which UK channel Watch have scheduled for 12th October as part of their Doctor Who Revisited launch day. Other 'talking-head' documentaries are spread over the course of the week amongst the episode repeats, with two of note being a new Tales from the TARDIS at 9:00pm on 18th November, and a special 15-minute Day of the Doctor Pre-Show broadcast before the prime-time repeat of The Day of the Doctor at 7:15pm EST on the 23rd. All schedules are subject to change. |
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It's an opinion on a public discussion forum. How on EARTH is it not acceptable on a forum which discusses celebrity's surgery and all manner of random topics?
I was merely questioning it's constructiveness... |
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Its had quite a few scoops recently as the article said but it hasnt moved the dial.
My view, which is unpopular with the instant success mantra that permeates every post here is that it takes time to turn things around. Im perfectly happy to be ridiculed and ignored for that view by the fantasy schedule/ fantasy presenters posters whose CVs are filled with past achievements of delivering instant tv ratings success. |
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Have a look at this from a Doctor Who news page:
At that stage, they'll be down to a 90 minute show at best. A clash isn't avoidable at all if they keep it on Saturday. The next few weeks determine where its scheduled. |
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Have a look at this from a Doctor Who news page:
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7.45 would make sense, BBC seem to be going for a fixed 6.30 start for Strictly again and it'll be down to 8 couples so 75 minutes is likely. Not sure where that would leave Atlantis, 5.45? 9.00? A week off would have it ending on the 28th Dec, as I doubt they'd put it on Christmas Eve like Merlin.
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Not long ago there was a discussion about on-demand viewing and how BARB handle the data. Essentially it related to which programme the non-live viewing is attributed to. I've had a reply from BARB about this which confirms the method: Quote:
With regards to on demand viewing, we have been including viewing to on demand in our viewing figures since December 2008 so it is not a relatively new development in BARB terms. In terms of the attribution of on demand viewing to a linear schedule, it is not as definitive as your describe although loosely you are correct. On demand viewing is captured via audio matching, so the audio of the content being watched is scanned against the audio of all content broadcast by all channels in the last 7 (now 28) days (think Shazam). Where channels have repeated content, this creates the option of multiple allocation options if the content being watched back is exactly the same as both broadcasts. Where there are two broadcasts on the same channel, the allocation will go to the most recent broadcast as you have suggested. Where there are multiple options across channels (Sky 1 content repeated on Sky 2), it works differently. In this case, the system looks at the context of the viewer doing the viewing, were they watching Sky 1 or Sky 2 earlier that day, and indeed across the last 28 days are they more likely to be a Sky 1 viewer as opposed to a Sky 2 viewer. The system creates a probability and allocates the viewing according. The idea being, if you are a heavy Sky 2 viewer as opposed to Sky 1, the viewing is more likely to be attributed to Sky 2. Does this make sense? So basically, any programmes with a quick to air repeat (X Factor, Eastenders etc.) could all have on-demand viewing attributed to those repeats rather than the original showing. That makes any comparisons across shows a bit tricky, especially as it could be attributed to alternative channels! Of course on-demand isn't a massive proportion of viewing at the minute but eventually this could be more of an issue.
So in answer to your questions, these are design specifications (choices) due to the method of viewing attribution (audio matching). For +1, we do not match any VOD viewing to +1 variants, and remove them completely as options for matching. This is an industry wide decision that VOD viewing should go back to a ‘parent’ channel rather than its staggercast. |
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Its had quite a few scoops recently as the article said but it hasnt moved the dial.
My view, which is unpopular with the instant success mantra that permeates every post here is that it takes time to turn things around. . In fact, you said this: "You could have dancing bears reading the news and topless gnomes doing the weather but it still wouldnt rate any higher." Now, ITV have announced there'll be yet another revamp. So, who's right? Them or you. |
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George, the other day you argued - strenuously - that Daybreak is doing as well as it could possibly do, so any idea of changing it is pointless.
In fact, you said this: "You could have dancing bears reading the news and topless gnomes doing the weather but it still wouldnt rate any higher." Now, ITV have announced there'll be yet another revamp. So, who's right? Them or you. Any growth will take time. Stick to what they are doing and try to improve incrementally every day. Every day is a mini revamp. If things arent working CHANGE. If they are try to do them better. Ignore the negativity, the nay sayers and begrudgers.
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Surprisingly low for the heavily trailed Pride of Britain awards. Used to get around 6million viewers a few years ago, didn't it? Almost beaten by a cheap DIY filler show.
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Even EastEnders George?
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BBC1 would have been better running Tuesday night's EE back to back with Monday night's in a one hour show and putting Panorama on last night.
Counter ITV's tricks by also fighting dirty. That would stop ITV playing silly buggers. |
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You don't seem to mind dirty fights when talking about Saturday's schedules do you
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I think they are doing it purely to hurt EE which is why I hope the BBC stick it to itv and put Strictly against Xfactor.
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ITV will be well aware how vulnerable EastEnders is right now. Of course they will take advantage, especially when Emmerdale has major storylines running.
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Saturdays he is down for a roll in the mud. On Tuesdays he is in his best church suit.
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How long is the 50th anniversary special of Doctor who?
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How long is the 50th anniversary special of Doctor who?
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75 minutes. It says so in a previous post!
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James Corden tells BBC Radio Berkshire the BBC has commissioned a second series of The Wrong Mans which will be about the great chocolate price fixing conspiracy
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Safe bet then that it will be on after SCD
Mind you, Live from the Apollo is due back to Fridays or Saturdays soon so if DW finishes at 9pm on the 23rd, it could be Casualty at 9pm, the lottery at 9.50 and then Live from the Apollo at 10 if it's shown on Saturdays. |
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Where are you on Sundays? Walking the wire? Or water skiing naked? (I had to give the latter up when I got attacked by a seagull which was trying to catch a worm.).
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All but one of The Paradise's episodes (first ep) were below 5million, its lowest time shift rating was 5.13million. I wonder if the better and more popular Mr Selfridge will affect The Pardise's rating's, or whether the older skewing watchers of TV on Sunday who won't watch XF, will stay on BBC from Strictly? More than likely. I think The Paradise could be up from the premiere last year, say 6million+
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Wow, that's a serious collapse for EE. There don't seem to be as many ED 1hrs these days luckily for EE.
Do we have figures of previous EE vs ED clashes to compare. Is that the biggest gap, its usually much closer. |
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Any growth will take time. Stick to what they are doing and try to improve incrementally every day.
