Its had quite a few scoops recently as the article said but it hasnt moved the dial.

My view, which is unpopular with the instant success mantra that permeates every post here is that it takes time to turn things around.

Im perfectly happy to be ridiculed and ignored for that view by the fantasy schedule/ fantasy presenters posters whose CVs are filled with past achievements of delivering instant tv ratings success.

I agree completely and that's why I think it's rather being thrown to the dogs by a channel controller who has no experience in scheduling drama. It may have played against the football, but at least it played to an audience who wouldn't have been interested in that. TXF is a different kettle of fish, and it's far from being weak. The Paradise needed at least another year in a soft slot to cement any kind of brand loyalty. I can't see it lasting beyond a third series. More to the point, it will escape a significant number of viewers - people who stuck with the weaker, but better promoted Mr Selfridge. Way to go, Charlotte.

Have a look at this from a Doctor Who news page:

I said nothing about it being acceptable or not, they are entitled to their opinion.

I was merely questioning it's constructiveness...

Even EastEnders George?

Wonder where that would leave X Factor.

At that stage, they'll be down to a 90 minute show at best. A clash isn't avoidable at all if they keep it on Saturday.

The next few weeks determine where its scheduled.

7.45 would make sense, BBC seem to be going for a fixed 6.30 start for Strictly again and it'll be down to 8 couples so 75 minutes is likely. Not sure where that would leave Atlantis, 5.45? 9.00? A week off would have it ending on the 28th Dec, as I doubt they'd put it on Christmas Eve like Merlin.

They could have Atlantis finish on 28th. The Saturday after Christmas is usually very weak. Perhaps Atlantis at 8pm and the second part of Death Comes to Pemberley (I predict it will air on 27th, 28th and 29th December) at 9pm after the lottery, would strengthen that particular saturdays schedule. There will be no MOTD on that day either.

Not long ago there was a discussion about on-demand viewing and how BARB handle the data. Essentially it related to which programme the non-live viewing is attributed to. I've had a reply from BARB about this which confirms the method:


So basically, any programmes with a quick to air repeat (X Factor, Eastenders etc.) could all have on-demand viewing attributed to those repeats rather than the original showing. That makes any comparisons across shows a bit tricky, especially as it could be attributed to alternative channels! Of course on-demand isn't a massive proportion of viewing at the minute but eventually this could be more of an issue.

George, the other day you argued - strenuously - that Daybreak is doing as well as it could possibly do, so any idea of changing it is pointless.

In fact, you said this: "You could have dancing bears reading the news and topless gnomes doing the weather but it still wouldnt rate any higher."

Now, ITV have announced there'll be yet another revamp.

So, who's right? Them or you.

Me, obviously Any growth will take time. Stick to what they are doing and try to improve incrementally every day.
Every day is a mini revamp. If things arent working CHANGE. If they are try to do them better.

Ignore the negativity, the nay sayers and begrudgers.

'Almost beaten' as in over a million behind.

of course it could be turned around. But it wont be ahead of Corrie (if ever) for at least 12-18 months, if they do change things. Of course Corrie and Emmerdale could get complacent and drop in the meantime without Eastenders improving but that would be a rather hollow victory

You don't seem to mind dirty fights when talking about Saturday's schedules do you

Saturdays he is down for a roll in the mud. On Tuesdays he is in his best church suit.

Just like they are doing you mean


Exactly the same situation with Strictly and TXF, except that the people complaining that ITV ran an hour long Emmerdale are the same people hoping that Strictly is scheduled agressively to damage The X Factor.

Where are you on Sundays? Walking the wire? Or water skiing naked? (I had to give the latter up when I got attacked by a seagull which was trying to catch a worm.).

How long is the 50th anniversary special of Doctor who?

75 minutes. It says so in a previous post!

Safe bet then that it will be on after SCD

James Corden tells BBC Radio Berkshire the BBC has commissioned a second series of The Wrong Mans which will be about the great chocolate price fixing conspiracy

The one thing that could be of interest is what will happen to Atlantis that week?

Mind you, Live from the Apollo is due back to Fridays or Saturdays soon so if DW finishes at 9pm on the 23rd, it could be Casualty at 9pm, the lottery at 9.50 and then Live from the Apollo at 10 if it's shown on Saturdays.

I've misjudged Newbury!

All but one of The Paradise's episodes (first ep) were below 5million, its lowest time shift rating was 5.13million. I wonder if the better and more popular Mr Selfridge will affect The Pardise's rating's, or whether the older skewing watchers of TV on Sunday who won't watch XF, will stay on BBC from Strictly? More than likely. I think The Paradise could be up from the premiere last year, say 6million+

Wow, that's a serious collapse for EE. There don't seem to be as many ED 1hrs these days luckily for EE.

Do we have figures of previous EE vs ED clashes to compare. Is that the biggest gap, its usually much closer.