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I'm still shocked that bbc1 has put the paradise on next sunday against x factor results. I know I kept saying they would but do be honest deep down I didn't actually think they would make that move. There is literally two sides to this- yes, it is practically perfect for the sunday 8pm slot, its a warm hearted period drama like larkrise, it will benefit from the timeslot and increased available audience on sunday nights, it has a large SCD lead-in and it may benefit from those waiting to see downton abbey later on BUT its against the x factor results show which tend to do better than the live shows on saturdays (that doesn't make sense but anyway). I guess we'll have to see how tonight's x factor results shows rates and make a prediction.
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My sources tell me that Itv will be showing a 3-part drama after Doc Martin ends starring Spartacus' John Hannah, created by Appropriate Adults/Mrs Biggs' Jeff Pope.
If it does go up against Ripper Street, it could split the audience as they're both quite dark. What were the ratings for Appropriate Adult like? |
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I'm still shocked that bbc1 has put the paradise on next sunday against x factor results. I know I kept saying they would but do be honest deep down I didn't actually think they would make that move. There is literally two sides to this- yes, it is practically perfect for the sunday 8pm slot, its a warm hearted period drama like larkrise, it will benefit from the timeslot and increased available audience on sunday nights, it has a large SCD lead-in and it may benefit from those waiting to see downton abbey later on BUT its against the x factor results show which tend to do better than the live shows on saturdays (that doesn't make sense but anyway). I guess we'll have to see how tonight's x factor results shows rates and make a prediction.
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If it does go up against Ripper Street, it could split the audience as they're both quite dark. What were the ratings for Appropriate Adult like?
Ep 1, 21:00 - 4.53m (18.1%) / 4.91m (19.6%) Ep 2, 21:00 - 4.49m (18.6%) / 4.70m (19.5%) Up against George Gently from 20:30 (6.47m/24.8% and 6.54m/24.8%) followed by news in both weeks. |
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I'm still shocked that bbc1 has put the paradise on next sunday against x factor results. I know I kept saying they would but do be honest deep down I didn't actually think they would make that move. There is literally two sides to this- yes, it is practically perfect for the sunday 8pm slot, its a warm hearted period drama like larkrise, it will benefit from the timeslot and increased available audience on sunday nights, it has a large SCD lead-in and it may benefit from those waiting to see downton abbey later on BUT its against the x factor results show which tend to do better than the live shows on saturdays (that doesn't make sense but anyway). I guess we'll have to see how tonight's x factor results shows rates and make a prediction.
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I think the BBC are just cutting their losses - they know The Paradise is never going to attract big 7/8m+ audiences regardless of the slot it's in, but they're aware that there's a significant non-X Factor audience of about 6m who'd appreciate something decent to watch.
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Brilliant for SCD, which continues to soar.
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Don't Forget The Lyrics never caught on here but I think that's OK for it in France where TF1 dominates everything (stuff like Criminal Minds and The Mentalist get 9m on weekdays - France is a very dull TV market).
The France-Australia match averaged at 5 997 000. |
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Appropriate Adult (2 x 90mins, Sunday 4 and 11 September 2011, overnights)
Ep 1, 21:00 - 4.53m (18.1%) / 4.91m (19.6%) Ep 2, 21:00 - 4.49m (18.6%) / 4.70m (19.5%) Up against George Gently from 20:30 (6.47m/24.8% and 6.54m/24.8%) followed by news in both weeks. I thought it did worse than that, I remember it being a big critical hit, especially when it came to the acting, but not doing so well ratings wise. The Widower is based on a lesser known story though so will probably pull in slightly less than that did.
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That would be 'The Widower' about Malcolm Webster, the man who murdered his first wife and tried to murder his second. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...dower.html?rss
If it does go up against Ripper Street, it could split the audience as they're both quite dark. What were the ratings for Appropriate Adult like? |
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Just in case anyone missed the ratings: Quote:
Saturday 12th October 2013
BBC One 18:30 - Strictly Come Dancing: 9.82m (43.1%) 20:25 - Atlantis: 4.66m (19.9%) 21:25 - Casualty: 3.97m (17.6%) 22:30 - The Rolling Stones Return to Hyde Park: Sweet Summer Sunday: 1.62m (12.0%) BBC Two 19:00 - Count Arthur Strong: 330k (1.5%) 19:30 - Meerkats: Secrets of an Animal Superstar: 650k (2.7%) 20:30 - Dad's Army: 1.5m (6.4%) 21:00 - The 70s: 1.38m (6%) 22:00 - The Sarah Millican Slightly Longer Television Programme: 1.07m (5.6%) 22:45 - FILM: Glorious 39: 430k (4.3%). ITV 19:00 - The Chase: Celebrity Special: 3.10m (13.8%) / 3.23m (14.4%) 20:00 - The X Factor: 7.82m (33.3%) / 8.10m (34.5%) 22:20 - The Jonathan Ross Show: 3.60m (22.8%) / 3.81m (24.1%) Channel 4 19:00 - Marvel's Agents of SHIELD: 570k (2.5%) / 761k (3.3%) 20:00 - Grand Designs: 590k (2.4%) / 736k (3.0%) 21:00 - FILM: The Adjustment Bureau: 1.31m (6.3%) / 1.62m (7.8%) Channel 5 19:00 - The Big Dig: 706k (3.1%) / 758k (3.3%) 20:00 - War Hero in my Family: 381k (1.6%) / 437k (1.8%) 21:00 - FILM: A Fistful of Dollars: 896k (4.4%) / 1.04m (5.1%) ITV2 22:20 - The Xtra Factor:377k (2.3%) ITV3 20:00 - Foyle's War: 751k (3.2%) |
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Has Ripper Street appeared in the programme information yet? I have a feeling it will be The Escape Artist launching on october 28th. Ripper Street perhaps airing on Sundays once DA has ended.
Airing on Sunday would mean it taking a break for SPOTY, wouldn't it? So that would mean either (3rd Nov - 8th Dec, 22nd - 29th Dec) or (17th Nov - 8th Dec, 22nd Dec - 12th Jan.) |
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Just in case anyone missed the ratings:
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In regards to ITV repeating TV Burp, BBC Three have done the same with Russell Howard's Good News and it repeats quite well.
Depends on which episodes they repeat though. They could show material from one of the DVD's, or unseen material - as I believe each show was 53 minutes long but only about 23 made it to air. |
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No not yet. I have the same feeling, but I actually think they'd be stupid enough to put Ripper Street against the final two episodes of DA. I really hope I'm wrong.
Airing on Sunday would mean it taking a break for SPOTY, wouldn't it? So that would mean either (3rd Nov - 8th Dec, 22nd - 29th Dec) or (17th Nov - 8th Dec, 22nd Dec - 12th Jan.) MONDAYS October 28th until November 11th: The Escape Artist November 18th until December 30th: Ripper Street. SUNDAYS November 3rd until November 10th: The Great Train Robbery November 17th: The 7.49 November 24th, December 1st, December 8th: Quirke December 15th: SPOTY December 22nd: The Whale This is how I predict Sunday evenings on BBC1 to look from November 3rd: 5.50 Countryfile 6.50 Strictly Come Dancing: results 7.30 The Paradise 8.30 90 Minute drama as suggested above |
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What's stopping Rising Star from descending into just another singing competition by the time it ends?
Judges. People voting. Singers getting knocked out, eventual winner. Same old. The voting system sounds very good, but then The Voice was good for its gimmicks for a while until that particular novelty wore off. Saying that, I did mention a while ago that with a shortage of big hitters and thus no foreseeable X Factor replacement, the easy option might be another singing show for ITV that could pull in big numbers in its place, but they'd have to trial it somewhere first. And then that means THREE big singing shows on air in the year... It's a nice twist on the genre, but it's nothing too exciting. I can imagine Sky getting this or someone.. |
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Maybe Channel 5 would be interested as there's a distinct lack of home grown entertainment on there.
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It's interesting to see how similar ratings are compared to last year. The longer clash this year dragged X Factor down and also Strictly. Was only a 10 minute clash last year. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s104/...ince-2006.html Quote:
Strictly Come Dancing claimed its most convincing victory over The X Factor in six years last night (Saturday).
BBC One's flagship entertainment show managed a peak of 11.3m (46%), and averaged 9.91m (43.5%) between 6.30pm and 8.30pm. Despite airing later in a more lucrative slot, The X Factor could only score an average of 8.68m (36.2%) from 8.20pm, peaking with 9.9m (39%) midway through its second live show. |
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Talking about Jonathan Ross dropping next week, can someone tell me why the hell it is up against Match of The Day anyway? Don't they appeal to similar audiences? And everyone goes on about how men are harder to attract as viewers, so seems a bit illogical...especially as we can see how well he rates WITHOUT that competition
Though I'm guessing he won't be clashing with it once X Factor shortensBe curious to see ratings tonight with the added Coronation Street effect. |
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X Factor should hopefully see some sort of boost thanks to Corrie's inheritance. If Corrie still aired Sundays at 7.30 the entire XF series would have benefitted from the inheritance on Sundays and enticing CS fans.
But alas, ITV wanted Sundays to be the NIGHT OF GLITTERING ENTERTAINMENT (for 8 weeks of the year, where otherwise it's largely dead.) Shame. X Factor on Sunday should feel like an event treat amongst the usual soap and drama. Instead Sundays are mostly desolate now and XF is lost in a weak schedule. The days of Heartbeat, The Royal, Where The Heart Is, The Bill - must seem so wonderful now in hindsight (blah blah demos but on the whole, they're weaker now). |
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"@MirrorTVNews: ITV's Daybreak set to become Good Morning UK in revamp http://t.co/oySxX0bKOU"
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X Factor should hopefully see some sort of boost thanks to Corrie's inheritance. If Corrie still aired Sundays at 7.30 the entire XF series would have benefitted from the inheritance on Sundays and enticing CS fans.
But alas, ITV wanted Sundays to be the NIGHT OF GLITTERING ENTERTAINMENT (for 8 weeks of the year, where otherwise it's largely dead.) Cher is also performing on XF tonight but I'm not sure if she's that much of a ratings draw. Britney is known to be able to boost a results show. |
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"@MirrorTVNews: ITV's Daybreak set to become Good Morning UK in revamp http://t.co/oySxX0bKOU"
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X Factor should hopefully see some sort of boost thanks to Corrie's inheritance. If Corrie still aired Sundays at 7.30 the entire XF series would have benefitted from the inheritance on Sundays and enticing CS fans.
But alas, ITV wanted Sundays to be the NIGHT OF GLITTERING ENTERTAINMENT (for 8 weeks of the year, where otherwise it's largely dead.) Shame. X Factor on Sunday should feel like an event treat amongst the usual soap and drama. Instead Sundays are mostly desolate now and XF is lost in a weak schedule. The days of Heartbeat, The Royal, Where The Heart Is, The Bill - must seem so wonderful now in hindsight (blah blah demos but on the whole, they're weaker now). X Factor used to do well and didn't need to rely on lead-ins that much. All of those shows you mentioned bar the soaps dwindled and died. The trick is finding hits to replace dying shows. |
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Coronation Street only does 6m usually, on a Sunday.
Back in the day, where a schedule would look like this: 7.30 Corrie 8.00 Heartbeat 9.00 Trial & Retribution I can assure you Corrie was not seeing unhealthy figures, and was the lynchpin of a dominating Sunday schedule. It's only since ITV axed Sunday's Corrie that ITV have lost their Sunday stronghold (with the exception of DA and DOI which itself is dying on its arse.) As for the whole soap-free weekend rubbish, Corrie aired on Sundays for a long time and was seen as one of the nicest, cosiest episodes, settling you down before going back to work. If Sunday nights are so important you don't want soaps on, perhaps you shouldn't be watching TV. And as I mentioned, just half an hour of soap at 7.30pm instantly anchored a whole night's entertainment down. ITV's scheduling is all wrong. |
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When scheduled there randomly and without much if any promotion, yes.
And I'm not sure if the Corrie inheritance will help XF any more - I say that because it had the BGT sandwich, but failed to boost the results to a figure a lot closer to the performances. |
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I thought it did worse than that, I remember it being a big critical hit, especially when it came to the acting, but not doing so well ratings wise. The Widower is based on a lesser known story though so will probably pull in slightly less than that did.


