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Old 23-09-2013, 17:45
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Well it's fair to say last nights ratings didn't go according to plan for some people on here. Some very bitter posts for the first few hours this morning, with people unable to accept that Downton Abbey actually did well and grew year on year, and therefore just resorted to slagging off Downton Abbey for being soapy and overhyped. Unable to give credit where it is due as per usual.
I don't think I recall anyone at all being bitter or slagging off DA. You must be reading a different thread.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:45
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Downton won't attract anymore casual viewers. It has a massive fanbase and a big viewership, but people know by now if the show is for them or not. So I can't really see the show getting any new extra viewers. I would say the show is at its peak now. Last night's rating is fantastic. I had a feeling it would launch higher than last year though, as I understand there was a big death in the Christmas special and ITV promoted the hell out of it.

By Any Means did well to hold up against it. I hope it manages to hold onto that 4m audience as I think it was a really good show, which would have loads of potential to increase its audience away from Downton.


Downton Abbey usually increasing its LIVE viewers over the series, (though next week may drop slightly but not by much) and the final episode the highest of the series, the highest overnight in series 2 finale rated at 10.5million and timeshifted to 12.5million.

I think By Any means will drop next week, but only a little to 3.7million.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:47
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I would love BBC1 to do this on a Sunday:

5.05pm BBC News
5.30 Antiques Roadshow (It's traditional slot)
6.30 Countryfile
7.30 Strictly Come Dancing Results
8.15 The Great British Bake Off (Thanks for suggestion Square Eyes)
9.15 Drama

Would that be enough to be real competition against XF/DA?
It seems to me that all these fantasy schedules have only one goal, not to make a good schedule for BBC1, but just to dent ITV as much as possible.

Big hitters deliberately scheduled against ITV's big hitters, programmes not hitting the common junctions, almost as if to con people into continuing to watch the channel they are on as they've missed the start of everything else.

Yet whenever ITV show Emmerdale opposite EastEnders there is uproar around in here.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:48
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Downton Abbey usually increasing its LIVE viewers over the series, (though next week may drop slightly but not by much) and the final episode the highest of the series, the highest overnight in series 2 finale rated at 10.5million and timeshifted to 12.5million.

I think By Any means will drop next week, but only a little to 3.7million.
Why will By Any Means drop? It was actually well received.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:50
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It seems to me that all these fantasy schedules have only one goal, not to make a good schedule for BBC1, but just to dent ITV as much as possible.

Big hitters deliberately scheduled against ITV's big hitters, programmes not hitting the common junctions, almost as if to con people into continuing to watch the channel they are on as they've missed the start of everything else.

Yet whenever ITV show Emmerdale opposite EastEnders there is uproar around in here.
So when ITV run scared and potentially start XF 5 minutes before SCD on 6th October which was not the plan initially that is fine is it? ITV are allowed to dent BBC1 but BBC1 are evil if they try to dent ITV. Of course the BBC would love a strong schedule against ITV. There was a time where BBC and ITV junctions differed and you know what? We all survived!
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:52
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Downton Abbey returned with 9.5m (39.6%) – its best series debut audience on record. #tellyratings

ITV Ratings: @TheXFactor peaks with 10.8 million, averaging 9.8million

Downton very strong but not quite #1!
Brilliant figures last night and much deserved. Can't think of two other shows which air back to back which get anything like those figures.

And By Any Means didn't disgrace itself at all with 4.1m - it probably wouldn't have done much better in a less competitive slot.

I miss Sunday night sitcoms though, even 'declining Bird of a Feather' was worth watching
I think sitcoms are missed every night of the week in all genres. ITV is really missing a trick by not putting something at 10pm after Downton - they're wasting their biggest lead in of the week on a news bulletin.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:52
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I don't think I recall anyone at all being bitter or slagging off DA. You must be reading a different thread.
BBC1 seemed to concede the slot by airing a low key new drama against it. Shouldve shown George Gently last night.
Presumably that is for both showings?

Would mean 8.9/9m probably, about what was expected.
I guess with BBC1 not offering an established drama as competition, the overnights for DA would be higher than last year. Probably means it will timeshift lower, but come out about the same. We can't judge until next Monday afternoon really.
For me it seems to be hype over substance. Like others have said it is no better than any other costume drama except they have made it like a soap. Not a patch on the original Upstairs Downstairs IMO just glossier.
I wonder if the DA overnight was boosted by weak competition elsewhere than BBC1. Other than 1, no-one else put up much of a fight.

that said, now it's confirmed as 9.1m, I don't think it's that much up anyway, is it?
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:52
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Big hitters deliberately scheduled against ITV's big hitters, programmes not hitting the common junctions, almost as if to con people into continuing to watch the channel they are on as they've missed the start of everything else.
I hardly think that's a problem if the audiences alternate. E.g, Merlin and X Factor.

I can't seem to think that Bake Off is suited to a weekend, as mentioned again and again. We wouldn't have said that a few years ago when X Factor was at its best. It won't dent it, yes, but would it do any better than Tuesday at 8pm?
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:52
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Well it's fair to say last nights ratings didn't go according to plan for some people on here. Some very bitter posts for the first few hours this morning, with people unable to accept that Downton Abbey actually did well and grew year on year, and therefore just resorted to slagging off Downton Abbey for being soapy and overhyped. Unable to give credit where it is due as per usual.
It has revealed that some posters don't watch the programmes the average member of the British public enjoy most and yet they still think they should be scheduling because they know best.
Wouldn't trust them to run to the shops for milk myself!
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:53
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Brilliant figures last night and much deserved. Can't think of two other shows which air back to back which get anything like those figures.


I think sitcoms are missed every night of the week in all genres. ITV is really missing a trick by not putting something at 10pm after Downton - they're wasting their biggest lead in of the week on a news bulletin.
If only ITV would bring back Spitting Image! That would be perfect for 10pm Sundays.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:58
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I think sitcoms are missed every night of the week in all genres. ITV is really missing a trick by not putting something at 10pm after Downton - they're wasting their biggest lead in of the week on a news bulletin.
Well they did have that Adrian Chiles vehicle, which was ok and inoffensive enough, but everyone here demanded that it should be axed, even though it was obvious it was either that or nothing as it isn't a slot ITV commission for very often, so it might as well have continued.
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Old 23-09-2013, 17:59
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I think sitcoms are missed every night of the week in all genres. ITV is really missing a trick by not putting something at 10pm after Downton - they're wasting their biggest lead in of the week on a news bulletin.
Why don't ITV repeat Vicious after Downton/I'm a Celebrity on a Sunday night? We know it's coming back but the repeats could expand its audience. Mrs Brown's Boys being a good example. That's probably the best slot for it if they want to repeat it.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:00
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Why don't ITV repeat Vicious after Downton/I'm a Celebrity on a Sunday night? We know it's coming back but the repeats could expand its audience. Mrs Brown's Boys being a good example. That's probably the best slot for it if they want to repeat it.
Or Plebs, has that had an ITV screening ?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:03
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The reason CF and AR rate so well up against anything on ITV other than Corrie, is that it skews heavily old and so can hold 5million+ up against Surprise Surprise (skews fairly young) and XF, also skews young. Its much harder for ITV to find programmes which rate well up against BBC, that skew young enough to make a profit in advertising.

One of the exceptions to ITV doing well against BBC, is Dancing On Ice which gets similar ratings to CF and AR.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:06
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Did we ever get the rating for Ronnie Corbett for the love of animals, or whatever it was called?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:08
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Did we ever get the rating for Ronnie Corbett for the love of animals, or whatever it was called?
2 gerbils, 4 dogs, 7 cats and a bored budgie.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:11
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Well, none of mine were "bitter"!

Calm down, dear. DA held firm year on year. You should be happy!
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:11
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Why don't ITV repeat Vicious after Downton/I'm a Celebrity on a Sunday night? We know it's coming back but the repeats could expand its audience. Mrs Brown's Boys being a good example. That's probably the best slot for it if they want to repeat it.
Repeating Vicious after DA would be the best exposure to a bigger audience. Even if it got 3million it would surely boost the new episodes.

I wonder whether ITV plan to broadcast Birds Of A Feather at 10pm after Mr Selfridge or at 8pm time on a Sunday? It feels like a Sunday comedy.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:12
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Did we ever get the rating for Ronnie Corbett for the love of animals, or whatever it was called?

Ronnie's Animal Crackers, in which Ronnie Corbett talked pets, began with 2.7 million viewers (13.4%) between 7.30pm and 8pm on BBC1. (MediaGuardian).


No POG's Dogs then.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:12
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2 gerbils, 4 dogs, 7 cats and a bored budgie.
OK, so that's your pets at home covered, George.

Did anyone else's watch?

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Old 23-09-2013, 18:15
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Did we ever get the rating for Ronnie Corbett for the love of animals, or whatever it was called?
No but it rated below 3.5million

EDIT That's a poor rating

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Old 23-09-2013, 18:16
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ITV Press Centre has Surprise Surprise down as 6.10pm - 7.10pm on Sunday 5th October.

That suggests either an awfully long Judges House episode for XF at 7.10pm - 9pm, with a 5 minute head start on SCD or something else will clash against SCD.
On Friday 11th October, Corrie loses 2 episodes because of England. I thought they'd just put an hour on Sunday 13th October, but the above suggests that they will put one episode on Sunday 6th and one on Sunday 13th. Suggesting - if the above is correct:

18:10 - Surprise Surprise
19:10 - Coronation Street
19:40 - The X Factor
21:00 - Downton Abbey
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:17
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On Friday 11th October, Corrie loses 2 episodes because of England. I thought they'd just put an hour on Sunday 13th October, but the above suggests that they will put one episode on Sunday 6th and one on Sunday 13th. Suggesting - if the above is correct:

18:10 - Surprise Surprise
19:10 - Coronation Street
19:40 - The X Factor
21:00 - Downton Abbey
That seems a good idea, not enough room in the schedule for a 1 hr Corrie, better to split it over 2 weekends.

(Dare I say it might 'dent' SCD).
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:20
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On Friday 11th October, Corrie loses 2 episodes because of England. I thought they'd just put an hour on Sunday 13th October, but the above suggests that they will put one episode on Sunday 6th and one on Sunday 13th. Suggesting - if the above is correct:

18:10 - Surprise Surprise
19:10 - Coronation Street
19:40 - The X Factor
21:00 - Downton Abbey
Yes that seems likely, good schedule for them if true, tricky for BBC to schedule around it. Made me think of this comment though:
Big hitters deliberately scheduled against ITV's big hitters, programmes not hitting the common junctions, almost as if to con people into continuing to watch the channel they are on as they've missed the start of everything else.
Just switch ITV with BBC
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:23
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That seems a good idea, not enough room in the schedule for a 1 hr Corrie, better to split it over 2 weekends.

(Dare I say it might 'dent' SCD).
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