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Old 17-09-2013, 21:31
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We all know how much ED suffered under Stuart Blackburn, both in terms of viewership and the quality of the output. The only saving grace of his tenure were the sublime 40th anniversary celebrations, and even they didn't make up for the atrocious decisions he made during his time in charge of the soap. Kate Oates has done a marvellous job in amending the damage caused by her predecessor.

Now Blackburn appears to be doing to Coronation Street, the nation's longest-running soap which is widely loved across the country. Lloyd and Paul's "Play the white man" plot was a woeful storyline, whilst future storylines - the Peter/Tina and Hayley right-to-die story arcs spring to mind - reek of character personality transplants and poor recreations of similar storylines he was responsible for at ED.

Surely it can't be long until Corrie sinks beyond recognition, and that shouldn't be allowed to happen to a soap of such history and famed for its high standards. As viewers and fans of Coronation Street, we deserve a lot better than what is lined up. It is unfair on the viewership that the man in charge of a national treasure has little clarity or skill in his vision for CS.
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:38
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Yeah he's crap.
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Old 17-09-2013, 22:42
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SB is only being judged on CS because of his previous work at ED which is totally unfair. Give the guy time to settle he's got better job at CS now anyway more to work with.
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Old 17-09-2013, 22:45
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SB is only being judged on CS because of his previous work at ED which is totally unfair. Give the guy time to settle he's got better job at CS now anyway more to work with.
Well I do hope he makes a better job at Corrie than he did at ED!
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Old 17-09-2013, 23:22
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To be fair to SB, the rot had set in before he took the helm. It's too early to judge, even going by his past record with ED.
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Old 18-09-2013, 13:16
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Some of it is bad but it could be worse.

Hayley's story line has been excellent. Actors like Julie Hes, David Neilson, Alison King and Jennie McAlpine have been exceptional.

The writing for characters like Deirdre and Sally has been good too. But I got bored of the Nick / David plot. It was a good story line until it became tedious and they have dragged it out for too long. I'm glad the reveal is coming up.

The Xmas stuff with Carla, Peter and Tina is a plot-driven story. Two characters who never interact have an affair, followed by the same old wedding drama where the bride and groom get as far as the altar and then disaster.

The Paul and Lloyd plot was awful from start to finish. Paul's exit was crap and Eileen should have let him leave the first time instead of running after the train he was on.

Tracyluv and Rob are cringeworthy.

Karl's exit wasn't very good.

Michelle is being childish.

Anna has gone from nice to nasty.
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Old 18-09-2013, 17:28
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How is Hayley wanting to die not true to her character? If she's in deep pain from cancer it makes sense.

There has been other s/l's as bad as "play the white man" under previous EPs so that is hardly a new low.

Peter is a bigamist so it makes sense that he'd have an affair, it's not like their making Roy have an affair.
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Old 18-09-2013, 18:23
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To be the honest, since he took over as EP, everything and anything that could go wrong has gone wrong for varying reasons.

Hes come into the job and has lost 3 characters due to reasons beyound his control, cant say either of them were really that major.

Then youve had various actors/actresses leaving, makes you wonder if theyve left because of him, or that they would have left, even if Phil Collinson was in charge.

Got a feeling Juile Hesmondhaigh, had already decided to upship, as her annoucement was quite soon in Blackburns Tenure.

That pic of him outside the rovers with that hat on, has been one, they have used as a promo shot, since his early days there
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Old 19-09-2013, 02:49
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I liked Zack's schizophrenia sl in Emmerdale the best
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Old 19-09-2013, 03:08
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He's just regurgitating old Emmerdale plots for CS...he sure lacks an imagination..the right to die..Jackson ED/Haley CS. Inventing random couples Marlon & Laurel...Dom & ALicia ED/ Peter & Tina CS.

I read other places that the cast hate him..which is why so many are leaving suddenly...he's probably trying to turn them all gay!

To be honest, I wouldn't let him produce a school play!
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Old 19-09-2013, 03:16
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I read other places that the cast hate him..which is why so many are leaving suddenly...he's probably trying to turn them all gay!
How pathetic. Fair enough if you don't enjoy their work but is there any need to be so personal when you know exactly sod all what actually happens behind the scenes. Grow up.
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Old 19-09-2013, 04:50
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He's just regurgitating old Emmerdale plots for CS...he sure lacks an imagination..the right to die..Jackson ED/Haley CS. Inventing random couples Marlon & Laurel...Dom & ALicia ED/ Peter & Tina CS.

I read other places that the cast hate him..which is why so many are leaving suddenly...he's probably trying to turn them all gay!

To be honest, I wouldn't let him produce a school play!
That is an extremely childish and immature comment, the type of which I'm positive is unacceptable on this forum. Total disregard of the insensitivity or offence it could cause, throwaway or not, you could be banned.
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Old 19-09-2013, 05:18
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I watched CS last night for the first time in ages and I was shocked how bad some story lines are. I mean what they hell has he done to Tyrone, I assume they are making him in to the next Jack Duckworth :yawn:.
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Old 19-09-2013, 07:36
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Listen though folks. He's made some crass misjudgements already, but why are we all pretending Phil Collinson was any good?? All we did was complain about him when he was in charge!

Remember Becky buying Max?
Remember the marriage sham?
Remember the disgraceful send off Betty was given?
True, he did give us the abuse storyline, but he ruined that with Fiyrone's affair.
He also brought in a load of new characters, but the only ones who were any good was Kylie and Sylvia.

I have no doubt that Blackburn really will pull some crap out of the bag, but he hasn't done anything as bad as marriage shams and child selling yet.
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Old 19-09-2013, 08:00
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Listen though folks. He's made some crass misjudgements already, but why are we all pretending Phil Collinson was any good?? All we did was complain about him when he was in charge!

Remember Becky buying Max?
Remember the marriage sham?
Remember the disgraceful send off Betty was given?
True, he did give us the abuse storyline, but he ruined that with Fiyrone's affair.
He also brought in a load of new characters, but the only ones who were any good was Kylie and Sylvia.

I have no doubt that Blackburn really will pull some crap out of the bag, but he hasn't done anything as bad as marriage shams and child selling yet.
Or before that, with Kim Crowther and the cringe inducing Molly and Kevin affair. :yawn::yawn::sleep:

Even if they replaced SB, then everyone would be complaining about the next producer. I don't even think Blackburn's work is THAT bad.
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Old 19-09-2013, 08:02
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I watched CS last night for the first time in ages and I was shocked how bad some story lines are. I mean what they hell has he done to Tyrone, I assume they are making him in to the next Jack Duckworth :yawn:.
Watched 1 episode and can already judge that Blackburn is a bad producer? Anyway, there have always been episodes that maybe not that interesting or good even with other producers, but what can be expected when its churned out 3 times a week (with 5 episodes in total).
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Old 19-09-2013, 10:21
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He reminds me of Mr Blobby without spots but with earring. Yuk.
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Old 19-09-2013, 10:31
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I liked Zack's schizophrenia sl in Emmerdale the best
Did Zac have schizophrenia though? It was never actually explained what it was he had. Just a vague 'mental illness' term.
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Old 19-09-2013, 18:31
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It can take a while to accurately diagnose a specific mental illness, especially if there's no previous family history of a specific mental illness (just like in Zack's case). Don't get me wrong I am no doctor and I would never claim to be an expert in mental illness, but I did study Psychology at uni and did a dissertation on it. From what I remember of my research and from the books that I still read occasionally, Zack seemed to possess the symptoms of Type 2 Paranoid Schizophrenia, if not maybe Psychotic Depression, he did suffer from paranoia and hallucinations. He's personality in the past also showed signs of erratic behaviour.

Mental illness is a subject that i feel very strong about because I feel that a lot of people don't understand it. So when a show does a sl portraying it correctly, I do like it
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Old 19-09-2013, 19:07
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Or before that, with Kim Crowther and the cringe inducing Molly and Kevin affair. :yawn::yawn::sleep:

Even if they replaced SB, then everyone would be complaining about the next producer. I don't even think Blackburn's work is THAT bad.
There's stuff I like and stuff I don't like. There's definetley a spark of brilliance in the guy, he just chooses to suppress it with his hideous stories.
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:30
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How is Hayley wanting to die not true to her character? If she's in deep pain from cancer it makes sense.

There has been other s/l's as bad as "play the white man" under previous EPs so that is hardly a new low.

Peter is a bigamist so it makes sense that he'd have an affair, it's not like their making Roy have an affair.
I agree, Peter having an affair is hardly a big shock but surely they could have picked someone more realistic for him? Tina doesn't seem like the kind of person who would have an affair, especially after the grief she's been giving David about Kylie and Nick. Couldn't they have chosen Michelle instead?
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Old 20-09-2013, 01:48
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I agree that he's reusing old ED storylines (Paddy/Marlon reappearing as Paul/Lloyd), but to be fair he has had an uphill task this year. Remember how Ken had a really big summer storyline coming up with Rob and Tracy? All gone. It wondered if certain plots were brought forward early in order to fill gaps (thinking particularly of the Platt reveal, which came a lot sooner than I expected, and Tim seems to be around to give the Websters something to do). The pacing has been badly affected, he's lost several actors and so can't risk sacking more, and every month has brought problems. That Corrie is still highly watchable despite the poor resolutions to big storylines is, surely a credit to the team.
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