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Frankie Cocozza reveals the judges' lack of power and his dislike for Louis |
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Frankie Cocozza reveals the judges' lack of power and his dislike for Louis
Frankie Cocozza is not a Louis Walsh fan that’s for sure, but things haven’t always been that way.
The 20 year old Brighton man featured on the 2011 series of The X Factor but was booted off mid series amidst claims of illegal drug taking and excess partying. Frankie later claimed that bosses promised if he left quietly he would get a spot on the subsequent tour, but this never materialised. Now Cocozza has hit out at show judge Louis Walsh and claimed that he always had it in for him and was out to get him from day one of the live shows. The singer claims the Irish man refused to acknowledge him when the cameras were off, but he wasn’t afraid to keep slating him while they were rolling. He said: “I didn’t like Louis Walsh. He’s a t***. He didn’t like me but I don’t know why. When we were in the corridor he’d just turn his back on me and on screen, he’d slag me off. I was a Louis fan before the show, so it was disappointing. When asked what he would say if he crossed paths with the former Westlife boss again, he laughed: “You’re a p****!” Frankie does have more time and respect for his former mentor Gary Barlow and admitted that he was more down to earth than others on the show. They’ve lost touch now but he has no bones to pick with the Take That star and told Now magazine: “He’s so cool but he knew the X Factor were playing on the, ‘Oh, we can’t control Frankie thing’. We spoke about it. He’s a nice geezer. We kept in touch for a bit afterwards but then we lost touch.” However even Gary couldn’t help Frankie out when it came to performing each week and in a previous interview with The Sun he insisted that the judges don’t have as much control as is implied. He explained: “They wouldn’t let me choose my own songs. Gary Barlow didn’t choose my songs. He used to say, ‘Come on, mate, you can do this s***.’ If it had been up to him, he would have let me sing one of the songs I suggested. “As far as I’m aware, the producers give them (the judges) a list of four songs to choose from.” And of course the reason he is airing his views now is clear from the end of the article.. ![]() ![]() Frankie is getting back into music and he recently announced he’s in a new band, telling his Twitter followers: “I’m in a band and we’re called @TheTelescreen .. We have finished writing our album after a long but beautiful year. Details Friday.” |
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Anyone who thinks the judges have any real power are living in cloud cuckoo land. It does not surprise me at all that the production team pick the finalists songs rather the judges. The show is not much better than a scripted reality TV show. Each week the producers know who they want to be voted off and what story they want to say. Picking crap songs for some singers, bad VT and the judges critic which they are briefed on before is just an integral part of doing everything the producers can do to ensure each show runs to script. Sure Frankie is pissed off, he as been chewed up and spat out by X-Factor, a lot of what goes on is very unfair and I don't think most of the finalists realise that thy are competing on a very unlevel playing field. That said, the guy couldn't sing and he has probably earned more money ad shagged more girls off the back of X-Factor than his limited talent would have allowed him to do without the show. V
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Why would anybody want to know what this skanky nobody thinks about anything?
He can't sing and has no personality that I've noticed, so why are we still hearing about the grubby little creature |
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Unfortunately the tabloids seem to like him, and think people are interested. Can't imagine why.
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Old news
We already know the finalists are chosen by the producers, the songs are chosen by the producers, the running order is carefully chosen by the producers to try and make sure certain acts are in the bottom 2, the judges comments are scripted by the producers, the judges are told who to save in the final showdown |
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Old news
We already know the finalists are chosen by the producers, the songs are chosen by the producers, the running order is carefully chosen by the producers to try and make sure certain acts are in the bottom 2, the judges comments are scripted by the producers, the judges are told who to save in the final showdown |
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Why would anybody want to know what this skanky nobody thinks about anything?
He can't sing and has no personality that I've noticed, so why are we still hearing about the grubby little creature |
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Old news
We already know the finalists are chosen by the producers, the songs are chosen by the producers, the running order is carefully chosen by the producers to try and make sure certain acts are in the bottom 2, the judges comments are scripted by the producers, the judges are told who to save in the final showdown I imagine the judges are given guidance with who to pick as well but I just can't believe they have zero say in what goes on at all. I can't believe someone like Gary Barlow would have so little integrity to do the show if it was 100% manipulated by the producers. |
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so basically having producers .....AND allowing public to vote ruins what could be a great tv show
i really think the x factor would work better as a radio show.....if its really about the singing then we dont need to see them |
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If the producers do everything, why bother with judges, or indeed the contest at all?
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We don't "know" all of this. I think there's definitely a lot more producer influence than they want us to believe, but if Frankie says the judges are given 4 songs to pick from that sounds believable.
I imagine the judges are given guidance with who to pick as well but I just can't believe they have zero say in what goes on at all. I can't believe someone like Gary Barlow would have so little integrity to do the show if it was 100% manipulated by the producers. |
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Old news
We already know the finalists are chosen by the producers, the songs are chosen by the producers, the running order is carefully chosen by the producers to try and make sure certain acts are in the bottom 2, the judges comments are scripted by the producers, the judges are told who to save in the final showdown |
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so basically having producers .....AND allowing public to vote ruins what could be a great tv show
i really think the x factor would work better as a radio show.....if its really about the singing then we dont need to see them |
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And of course the reason he is airing his views now is clear from the end of the article.. ![]() ![]() Frankie is getting back into music and he recently announced he’s in a new band, telling his Twitter followers: “I’m in a band and we’re called @TheTelescreen .. We have finished writing our album after a long but beautiful year. Details Friday.”
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I think people are just too happy to blame the producers or come up with a conspiracy theory about song choices or running order blah blah blah when an act they like gets voted out or not put through by the judges rather than just admit their favourite wasn't very good
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Old news
We already know the finalists are chosen by the producers, the songs are chosen by the producers, the running order is carefully chosen by the producers to try and make sure certain acts are in the bottom 2, the judges comments are scripted by the producers, the judges are told who to save in the final showdown the whole thing is carefully scripted and manipulated to get the results simon cowell/syco wants. everything about it. and it doesn't even bother being subtle anymore either... |
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I think people are just too happy to blame the producers or come up with a conspiracy theory about song choices or running order blah blah blah when an act they like gets voted out or not put through by the judges rather than just admit their favourite wasn't very good
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I think people are just too happy to blame the producers or come up with a conspiracy theory about song choices or running order blah blah blah when an act they like gets voted out or not put through by the judges rather than just admit their favourite wasn't very good
it's entirely possible to be objective about the acts you're seeing and recognise the twists and manouvers the producers like to pull. |
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not true. most of the years i've watched this show i've genuinely not cared too much about who wins it. the only year i've really stirred myself to give a shit was leona vs ben mills. i loved leona and thought she was incredible, but i personally preferred ben. still though, a win for either would have made me happy.
it's entirely possible to be objective about the acts you're seeing and recognise the twists and manouvers the producers like to pull. its still something that gets made far too much of by people who refuse to accept that their favourite act wasn't very good when they don't get through |
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This is too logical for the conspiracy theorist so lets not get in the way. I understand that their is producer influence in some elements but every year we have people bleating on and on about it being a fix etc and this continues straight through to the end of the X-factor, you would think if they are so het up by all this manipulation they would move on to something more open to their tastes.
i personally find accusations that "it's fixed" to be silly - they cannot possibly do that and not get caught. with viewers voting, it's literally an impossibilty. they can, and do, however, manipulate the back teeth out of it. how they present the acts is crucial to how they'll be received by the public and how many votes they'll get. a rare few contestants can push past this based on sheer strength of personality, but when the lable in question lights up with ££££ around one act, they're going to push that act for all it's worth. they can't make them win, or outright say "we want this act"....but they can tip the scales ever so slightly in their direction. |
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never said I don't accept that the production will attempt to influence the public via editing and the like
its still something that gets made far too much of by people who refuse to accept that their favourite act wasn't very good when they don't get through |
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this is ridiculous! i can't believe that a TV show allows it's producers to have a say in the making of the show!!!!!
seriously get real people. the XF is the most produced show on TV and that's what makes it so good. it's not for everyone, and fair enough if you don't like it you are fortunate enough to live in a country that offers you a bloody good choice of alternatives. they are not interested in "fixing" the results because when all's said and done they don't have to (sony get their artists no matter who wins). they only have to make it entertaining enough to bring in 8m+ viewers every week. |
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this is ridiculous! i can't believe that a TV show allows it's producers to have a say in the making of the show!!!!!
seriously get real people. the XF is the most produced show on TV and that's what makes it so good. it's not for everyone, and fair enough if you don't like it you are fortunate enough to live in a country that offers you a bloody good choice of alternatives. they are not interested in "fixing" the results because when all's said and done they don't have to (sony get their artists no matter who wins). they only have to make it entertaining enough to bring in 8m+ viewers every week. there's a difference between "having a say in making the show" (duh - that's their job if sony spies £££ with an act, then it's very obviously in their best interest to throw everything they have into making that act a success. the best time to start is when they're still on that platform of being infront of 8-10m viewers every weekend. if they don't see those £££s, then why bother? and why let that act potentially damage the one they ARE investing in? |
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Frankie CokeUpTheNozza is history so let's move on folks!
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"He didn’t like me but I don’t know why"
This is typical of sill little ***** like him who are obnoxious but can't see it and think that it's always someone else's fault. GO AWAY! |
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