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EE - What Barbara Windsor thinks of Lorraine Newman era!
She commented: "We've got a wonderful new
guv'nor who's gone in, who's lovely. Because
it's in a bit of a state, the show, at the moment.
It's not getting there. We're third - oh
guv'nor who's gone in, who's lovely. Because
it's in a bit of a state, the show, at the moment.
It's not getting there. We're third - oh
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I actually think it was Kirkwood who Babs despised.”
“I actually think it was Kirkwood who Babs despised.”
This. He was the one that messed up the show
Originally Posted by *TribeSpirit*:
“This. He was the one that messed up the show”
“This. He was the one that messed up the show”
I'm beginning to come up with a conspiracy that Channel 4 paid for him to ruin the show, it's strange how he just walked right back into a job there.
Originally Posted by *TribeSpirit*:
“This. He was the one that messed up the show”
“This. He was the one that messed up the show”
None of the cast appeared to like him.
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I actually think it was Kirkwood who Babs despised.”
“I actually think it was Kirkwood who Babs despised.”
Not forgetting she quit as soon as he joined!
Don't forget they didn't thank him at the soap awards either and we know Sam Womack quit because the baby swap was too much for her to handle. Yet its evident from all her recent interviews and the fact she is back on screen that she loves the show dearly.
It does seem to look like the cast didn't like him much.
It does seem to look like the cast didn't like him much.
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I'm beginning to come up with a conspiracy that Channel 4 paid for him to ruin the show, it's strange how he just walked right back into a job there.”
“I'm beginning to come up with a conspiracy that Channel 4 paid for him to ruin the show, it's strange how he just walked right back into a job there.”
I'm not 100% convinced he was doing his best for the show.
I remember being very excited and thinking EE was going to get better when it was announced he was joining - his stint on HO was great but boy was I wrong!
Originally Posted by hetty100:
“None of the cast appeared to like him.”
“None of the cast appeared to like him.”
Can't say I blame them. The show in general was in pretty good shape, after the live show.
The idiot thought baby swap was actually a good idea
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I'm beginning to come up with a conspiracy that Channel 4 paid for him to ruin the show, it's strange how he just walked right back into a job there.”
“I'm beginning to come up with a conspiracy that Channel 4 paid for him to ruin the show, it's strange how he just walked right back into a job there.”
well if helps any there are many Hollyoaks fan on the forum who seem very unhappy with the decisions he has been making with their soap.
But hollyoaks isn't a serious threat to eastenders so If anyone had paid kirkwood to destroy the show it would of been ITV 
And anyway Newman was just as bad if not worse than kirkwood and that would mean the bbc themselves wanted to destroy the show
So many conspiracy theories
And anyway Newman was just as bad if not worse than kirkwood and that would mean the bbc themselves wanted to destroy the show
So many conspiracy theories
Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat:
“well if helps any there are many Hollyoaks fan on the forum who seem very unhappy with the decisions he has been making with their soap.”
“well if helps any there are many Hollyoaks fan on the forum who seem very unhappy with the decisions he has been making with their soap.”
I'm one of them
Originally Posted by Lewi26:
“But hollyoaks isn't a serious threat to eastenders so If anyone had paid kirkwood to destroy the show it would of been ITV
And anyway Newman was just as bad if not worse than kirkwood and that would mean the bbc themselves wanted to destroy the show
So many conspiracy theories”
“But hollyoaks isn't a serious threat to eastenders so If anyone had paid kirkwood to destroy the show it would of been ITV
And anyway Newman was just as bad if not worse than kirkwood and that would mean the bbc themselves wanted to destroy the show
So many conspiracy theories
”
I think Santer paid BK to destroy the show. He wanted to be missed!
On reflection when Santer left then the BBC should have appointed Newman as I bet then her era would have been deemed a bigger success, after the sensationalism and hype of Santer Newman's more calming influence would of been better received also no way would she have done the baby swap plot and killed off Pat either which were 2 of Kirkwood's biggest mistakes.
I understood that Lorraine Newman was a kind of interim producer until a more permanent one could be found. I'm probably in the minority here that thinks she did a decent job. She certainly has roots in the show after having worked on EE for about twenty years.
Originally Posted by dazza89:
“On reflection when Santer left then the BBC should have appointed Newman as I bet then her era would have been deemed a bigger success, after the sensationalism and hype of Santer Newman's more calming influence would of been better received also no way would she have done the baby swap plot and killed off Pat either which were 2 of Kirkwood's biggest mistakes.”
“On reflection when Santer left then the BBC should have appointed Newman as I bet then her era would have been deemed a bigger success, after the sensationalism and hype of Santer Newman's more calming influence would of been better received also no way would she have done the baby swap plot and killed off Pat either which were 2 of Kirkwood's biggest mistakes.”
The baby swap was a good s/l. Better than another affair or love triangle.
There must have been good reasons why they decided to kill off Pat. Pat St Clement was nearly 70 when she left so she would have only probably came back for very short stints anyway, if at all. Plus they gave her a very good exit, better than any off screen death.
