Not sure if this goes in the main forum or in Jeanette's Appreciation Thread but I came across this article:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/strictlys-janette-manrara-dated-three-2291588

Apparently she's dated Artem & Pasha before settling with Aljaz- lucky lady

I think that all depends on what sort of comments you're after

I'm not after anything in particular but thought Janette/SCD fans might like it

Hmmm, when I look at her I don't necessarily see "stunning", but let's wait for the show to start. Cheers for the article, and please post here, as not everyone looks at all the Appreciation Threads.

I still can't work out the thinking behind segregating the two parts of the forum. I know there was a vote, someone said, back in the pre-history of this board, but why on earth? And can we vote it back together again?

The attic siphons people off into separate little worlds... like rock pools left by a high tide. There will be whole new species of fishies and shrimps if we leave them separate much longer. And at the same time, this part of the forum has a tendency to pride itself on nastiness.

The more you police folk, the less they try to get along. I'd drive the whole lot of us back together.

Admittedly, I don't know what it was like before the Balkanisation. Perhaps it happened for a reason. But I know I am offended when posters tell you 'get back to the attic'.

I don't think it was a question of policing people.

Many of the appreciation threads attract repeat posters (I'm not casting any aspersions or making judgements there - simply observing) who enjoy posting time and again and, indeed, carrying on conversations about their preferred celeb/partnership/pro.

There is nothing wrong with this at all. I can see how people who are very into certain dancing partnerships would want to converse with similarly minded people. That is, to my mind, why nearly all of us are here in the first place.

However, many appreciation threads carry on (with similar fervency) after the celeb or partnership's series has finished and personally, I find it somewhat irritating to have to trawl through dozens of threads entitled "Pointlessly beautiful Matt on tour and in our hearts forever" or "Ballroom Bill" or whatever to find threads that are relevant to this series simply because there's an intense conversation going on on these threads between three or four avid fans of pointlessly beautiful Matt or Ballroom Bill. Let those fans have their conversations elsewhere (just like the games now go on in their own separate place - they hold no interest for me but I wouldn't want to deprive others) and keep the main board for threads that are relevant to the series now.

This, of course, opens the debate about whether appreciation threads for current partnerships should be on the main board. I'd personally have no problem with that.

Edit: By the way, I have no idea whether the threads I mentioned above are still going. They were just two I remembered that had a lot of "traffic" in the days before "the attic". And (sorry Matt and Bill fans), I was glad to no longer have to encounter said titles.

As a participant in both, I honestly think it's better separate.

There are dozens of active appreciation and game threads upstairs which would just get in the way of finding the general discussion threads which are of interest to (nearly) everyone and which should therefore take priority.

I also think it's good to try and keep the general threads of a general nature and not allow them to digress into excessive fangirl- (or -boy)dom. Again, it makes them inviting for everyone and stops them becoming too cliquey.

I hate that 'get back to the attic' dismissive thing, but sometimes, when people suggest that something belongs in an appreciation thread, they're just trying to be helpful.

Ta. I thought it was to do with 'policing' because the profile of the two main boards is so distinct now. I can't be doing with 'Do Not Tread on the Grass' signs, so tend to post wherever -- in different app threads (anyone who takes my fancy) and here -- but there is an undeniable perception in the attic that the main forum is a harsh and unforgiving place, while in the main forum many hold that the attic is a ghetto of fluffy chirruping.

Keeping threads for past series in a separate place but moving the current support threads back down into the main life of the forum is a terrific idea.

But then there's such a waste! I remember finding in the Kara and Artem thread (I think), the most amazing open and fair discussion of all the dances in the show. Week after week. Kara wasn't dancing that year (those years). There was no rancour, no partisanship, no fluff, just clarity and proper appraisal. I felt like I'd fallen through into another world, a hidden oasis. Now there must be some reason why those brilliantly fair and knowledgeable posters didn't share their thoughts down here. Perhaps a thread like that simply couldn't live down here and so it has to be left as the secret paradise.

One of the issues with having appreciation threads on the main boards was that they were often left open for people to post with negative remarks. Although the majority would stick to the 'unofficial rule' of no negativity towards a celeb/pro/couple that was the subject of the App thread, there were always those who would argue that they should be allowed to be negative on any thread that was in a discussion forum... thus the idea for a seperate appreciation sub-forum with a clearly defined rule that you could not be negative about the subject(s) of a thread.

Ach, Monkey, I don't know. Fifteen appreciations threads and at least 5 motorway threads makes 20 on the front page of interest to the few rather than the many....

Thank you for this insight. I can imagine that would cause ructions.

Then what do you do if your favourite's dance that week is crap? In your opinion. eg Kimberley and Pasha's paso to bloody 'Hungry Like the Wolf'... Does the supporter of that couple lose the right of objective ('negative') comment on 'their' thread? Not breaking the rule is less important than keeping things honest. (Not that this was ever an issue on that thread but in the strict letter of the law it could have been, and on some app threads, maybe it would be...)

It is confusing and maybe there isn't a right answer. But thank you everyone for answering.

Of course, I have now led you all off topic ... Again

The problem with the "attic" threads is how often they are replied to/participated in

If you imagine putting all those threads into general discussion, then they would take up quite a lot of Page 1, pushing much about the on-going series to the bottom or even page 2. Not practical.

BIB You can post about it in the main discussion forum if you really wanted to go to town, but I think the appreciation threads are supposed to be 'positive and supportive' not dishonest. Saying you didn't think Pasha and Kimberely's paso was their finest hour and why you thought that would be fine, wouldn't it?

Really, if you were a regular poster on that app thread, then everyone else on there is going to know that you are a genuine fan of the person/couple and you're just expressing your disappointment that you weren't blown away by that particular dance, there are no problems with being honest in that context. It has stopped (to my knowledge anyway) the deliberate trolling of app threads which I remember happening a fair bit when they were on the main forum.

Perhaps then the issue is to do with respect.

If there are practical reasons to keep the two boards apart, then ok. The practical end now has been achieved so why the contempt for 'the attic' that isn't hard to find on the main forum? It feels like ghettoisation, if that's a word. As a user of both, I think it's puzzling. But I'll just stop thinking about it now...

I'm not sure if it is a general consensus, but it does appear that people on the general forum are not so keen on the "fandom" approach to the appreciation threads, especially if constant posting to specific ones push down threads considered "current" or "relevant" to the current series.

Respect is hard to find on the Internet in any case, so my advice would be, for everybody above or below the line, to tep away from the keyboard if they think about getting over emotional about a dance-based entertainment show.

I seem to be the only one who is bothered about the separation, so I'll stop blathering about it now. It's just one of those things that irk me from time to time. Aired... and gone

Slightly off topic but I have to say that there is one poster whose constant thread creation means that I spend very little time here since so much of the front page is cluttered up with them.

I have the person on ignore but that doesn't really work when they start sooo many threads.

For me it spoils the forum but obviously the majority don't mind otherwise the person would no longer be an active member.

I wish they could have their own section .

Plenty of people agree with you, but what to do about it?

A separate section has been suggestion before . We need better spin to sell the idea to the mods

See, I think Terry is the child of this separation. His particular brand of trolling has currency because the main forum was allowed to expel some of its people to the attic. He runs right along the dividing line and he never bothers with his threads that get booted up there... And now I really am stopping. Logging off before I annoy myself and everyone.

(I kind of likeTerry too. He's astute for all his pretend urbanity)

(Though I bloody miss fancynancy)

I don't mind the separation. I am conscious to the threat of the general forum becoming washed over by appreciation threads at the expense of general discussion.

BIB - but that has to be a blessing, doesn't it? At least some of the threads go away to die quietly....

I don't even know how to contact the mods except to report an "inappropriate post" and I don't think that is the right description for the saturation of his/her inane postings.

I don't mean that though. Look at it as an ecosystem. The app threads' old (apparently unrelevant) space on the main forum is filled now by Terry. His particular fun is to proliferate threads that clog the front page and that cannot be moved.