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Old 22-09-2013, 12:38
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Old 22-09-2013, 12:56
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A link might be useful ? Hard to discuss unless we have the details of exactly what we are talking about.

However as it's the newer phone wouldn't we expect it to beat phones that have been out for a while ? Any bench marks against, for example, the Z1 or Note 3.
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:00
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I just watched a benchmark video on YouTube between 5c, 5s and galaxy s4.

What it tells me is that specs mean nothing.
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:16
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Still no true multitasking though, still a lower quality screen with a lower PPI, 1,136-by-640 vs the S4's 1,920-by-1,080, still a lower megapixel camera, (the new, high end phone market has moved to 13 mega pixels), no NFC, no widgets, in and out of apps all the time.

There's nothing that needs that CPU yet, and as others have said, the S4 is an older device now, and as such is available for 420 compared to the 5S which is 549.

So on top of the better resolution, better camera etc you also make a saving of 130.

I'm really surprised people aren't bored of having a phone that's just an 'app grid' yet.
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:23
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Every app is now currently a legacy app, yet it probably runs them as well as the last generation 5.


64 bit apps?
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:26
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There's nothing that needs that CPU yet, and as others have said, the S4 is an older device now.
I'd be interested to see how quickly it compresses 1080p video to email. The 5 isn't bad, but the 4S takes forever.
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:53
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The same iphone 5S that has a feeble 1GB RAM.

Stock it with a fast CPU/GPU and then when it needs to run demanding apps it will start getting sluggish and crashing.
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Old 22-09-2013, 13:59
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Stock it with a fast CPU/GPU and then when it needs to run demanding apps it will start getting sluggish and crashing.
1GB is only "feeble" to those with an Android viewpoint. iOS and Windows Phone have managed with less for ages.

I think it will take a few months, and a few more people getting their hands on the 5S, before we know for sure.

By then Samsung will have the S5 out
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:04
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Still no true multitasking though, still a lower quality screen with a lower PPI, 1,136-by-640 vs the S4's 1,920-by-1,080, still a lower megapixel camera, (the new, high end phone market has moved to 13 mega pixels), no NFC, no widgets, in and out of apps all the time.
You obviously like specs
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:21
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For me the interesting part is that Apple is joining specs wars.
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:24
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I see no evidence that the iPhone 5S performs better than the top android phones?
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:25
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I just watched a benchmark video on YouTube between 5c, 5s and galaxy s4.

What it tells me is that specs mean nothing.
How does it tell you that exactly
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:26
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People saying anything without backing it up on Digital Spy... wot a shocker lol
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:54
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How does it tell you that exactly
On paper I would not have expected the 5s to have been so far ahead on the benchmarks.
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Old 22-09-2013, 14:59
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On paper I would not have expected the 5s to have been so far ahead on the benchmarks.
It shouldn't be against the snapdragon 800 but might be against snapdragon 600.
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Old 22-09-2013, 15:02
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It shouldn't be against the snapdragon 800 but might be against snapdragon 600.
It cant come close to Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4.
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Old 22-09-2013, 15:05
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It cant come close to Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4.
Bit of a shame that the Tegra 4 never came to high end devices this year it was meant to be built for graphics. Hopefully see the Tegra 5 next year. From test footage I saw of the Tegra 5 in action it was comparable to the PS3.
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Old 22-09-2013, 15:13
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On paper I would not have expected the 5s to have been so far ahead on the benchmarks.
Well you have not explained ahead it what respect, doing what exactly? what were the differences exactly? what were the tests all a bit vague!

Then purely for fairness should not the respect OS's be swapped to see if the scores remain the same, that way you could truly judge the relevant performances of the phones? I fail to see how running a full functioning computing grade OS can be compared to an OS that would run my smart TV
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Old 22-09-2013, 15:45
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Here's a link if people are interested:

Article link

By all accounts pretty fast in the benchmarks. Contrary to posts above, apparently faster than the Snapdragon 800.

All to do with the switch to ARMv8 apparently.

But benchmarks like these don't necessarily make too much difference in real world use, right?
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Old 22-09-2013, 15:48
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Well you have not explained ahead it what respect, doing what exactly? what were the differences exactly? what were the tests all a bit vague!

Then purely for fairness should not the respect OS's be swapped to see if the scores remain the same, that way you could truly judge the relevant performances of the phones? I fail to see how running a full functioning computing grade OS can be compared to an OS that would run my smart TV
If you want to know what video I watched, it was this one.

http://youtu.be/mhsQFKrNnNw

If you are asking whether I think benchmarks are a good measure, then no, I think benchmarks are as meaningless as most of the specs. Especially as it was reported that samsung added code just to make benchmark results look good.

As for swapping over the OS, I'm not sure what that would prove.
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Old 22-09-2013, 16:03
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For me what has always been the iPhone's Achilles heel is screen real estate i.e. It is just too small, whilst conversely screens like the Xperia Z1 are to big. I find 4.3 to 4.5 just about right.
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Old 22-09-2013, 16:07
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I am sure from now on all manufacturers will take that considered view on board and we shall only see such screen sizes in the future
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Old 22-09-2013, 16:10
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Most extensive review, including benchmarks, here at Anandtech as usual:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review

Impressive how well it does with 2 cores against the 4 (or 8?) core competition. Always thought quad core on a phone is just willy waving for nerds.

And all (presumably) without cheating with 'special' benchmark app turbocharging.

And still kicking ass in the graphics department I see.

And all is such a small package. Makes one wonder why Samsung et al don't seem to be able or interested in packing such performance into their smaller phones, limiting it only to their monster sized phones.
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Old 22-09-2013, 16:14
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For me what has always been the iPhone's Achilles heel is screen real estate i.e. It is just too small, whilst conversely screens like the Xperia Z1 are to big. I find 4.3 to 4.5 just about right.
I do find it interesting that samsung have not released a high end phone with a smaller screen. I thought the S3 mini/S4 mini where going to be it.
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Old 22-09-2013, 16:16
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As for swapping over the OS, I'm not sure what that would prove.
Quite clear why surely what are you claiming is quicker exactly the iphone itself or the OS it is running?
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