Does anyone think Phil and Tina will have a one night stand? I don't think Phil and Tina will ever get together but I can see Phil and Tina having a one night stand.

This would make good drama between Shirley and Tina. Phil and Shirley are over for good. I can see the EE writers doing this storyline.

What do you think?

I'd rather Phil just avoided the whole clan, and get it on with the nurse.

But Phil to sleep with Tina just to annoy Shirley then yes, she will officially have no one and hopefully disappear once and for all.

No I don't think it will happen. Tina is supposed to be worse than Shirley so I can't see it happening lol

It would make Shirley more bitter and sad. But having said this, Shirley and Phil aren't together anymore and got their "closure". I think Shirley should move on from Phil and find a new man as she deserves happiness.

Have you seen the state of her, she dresses worse than Bianca. I've never known him to go for someone like that.

Part of this - but what does it matter that theyre not together. Shirl will always love phil

It doesnt matter if phil and shirl are over for good. Tina would just makes things even more complicated. What if ben came back in the middle of it all?

Its not worth it

Bianca the fashion designer!!!

I think it's inevitable. Soaps writers can't resist an opportunity for a love triangle. Tina's a bold blonde so she should fit in well with the Mitchells.

It would make the last few months pointless. phil wanted shirl to be happy - he didnt want her in the gutter.

I disagree. I saw the last few months leading to Shirley accepting the end of their relationship and taking steps to move on. Phil may want Shirley to be happy but he is a lonely man and if he saw a chance for a relationship or even a fling I doubt he'd sacrifice it for the sake of an ex girlfriend. Whether Shirley ends up in the gutter is up to her.

If he still loved shirl he wouldnt do it. Or at least still cared for her /still felt guilty over the whole ben thing. they would still be friends so sleeping with her sister, he knows how hurt shirl would be. Just cos shirl accepted it doesnt mean she doesnt still love him. I dont think she did cos she wanted him to ask her to stay

Its not just the sake of an ex. Its her sister. He can find anyone else but why do it with her just to make even more complications for himself. its not worth it

Q - why did grant have a right to be upset that sharon went out with phil after they split up? Is that not the same thing?

He may feel bad about hurting her but not enough to take a vow of celibacy for the rest of his life. Why Shirley's sister? He lives in Walford and local bylaws prohibit residents from dating anyone outside their neighbourhood. Once you eliminate his relatives there aren't many single women his age to choose from.

None of the television stations in my local area showed Eastenders at the time of the Sharon/Grant storyline so I can't comment on it. Why bring Sharon and Grant into it anyway? They have nothing to do with it. If Phil does decide to pursue Tina I'm pretty sure that what happened years ago between him, Sharon and Grant would have no bearing on his decision.

Its an example. People think shirl would have no right to be upset about it.

Why would he set out to hurt shirl just to get his leg over? Its pathetic

Tina isnt his age, shes late 30s

But even though it doesnt - if he did sart a new r/ship hes moved on from sharon then.

Haven't you learnt by now that the only happiness Phil cares about is his own, he's never been able to sustain a proper relationship long enough, he will seek solace and sex with whoever takes a interest even if its with Tina.

So everything he did for shirl the last few months would be a waste of time. He paid her rent, went to do a deal to get her money, just to make her happy!

Also if tina fell for him and he didnt feel the same way, it would be another woman he used for his own gain. Which would cause more problems with shirl. Which im sure he knows is bad news for ben

Most men would be gagging for it if some younger bird threw themselves at them. He didn't mind going with Rainie did he?

If Shirley and Phil are over then why would Shirley even care? Phils not one to care about anyone's feelings anyway.

I can see it fueling Tina's first story line. She'll arrive, Shirley will take her under her wing, Tina will sleep with Phil, Shirley will forgive her, then Phil will taunt both sisters, blah blah blah.

Doesnt make sense since shirl is missing

Shirley might even give them her blessing in the end.

She could end up with Max anyway. He likes a bit of rough. Tina would be right up his street.

Don't tell Jack, he might stay :yawn:

Yeah that does seem very plausible. Typical Phil.

She will return worried about Shirley, Phil will go into super hero mode and rescue Shirley. Shirley will as you say take Tina under her wing, Tina will end up sleeping with Phil. Shirley will snarl at Phil and Tina, then kiss and make up and give them her blessing. Or maybe it will be a bit of a fling and she will move onto Max next.

He didn't do those things to make her happy, he paid the rent because he felt sorry for her and suggested a truce which she promptly threw back in his face and demanded money to keep quiet about the cover up, he gave her the money because he didn't want her dobbing him in to the police.

If he did this to make her happy if didn't work did it

If he slept with Tina as a casual fling then Tina "fell for him" that is not Phil's fault.

The only thing that would make this even remotely interesting, is if he treated tina way worse than he ever treated shirl. To show the contrast to tina having good looks and shirl not yet he clearly preferred being with shirl (as they were also best friends)

Otherwise it would just ruin shirl and the point of bringing tina in.

Yeah but he doesn't love Shirl, its Sharon he's always loved. And the fact that he went for others while Sharon was absent makes it likely that he'll go for others now Shirley's out of his life

He said he wanted to make her happy. He said he didnt want her to end up in the gutter. Steve said he did them out of love (and guilt) so i completly disagree he did them cos he felt sorry for her.

She was happy by the end of it. He said he didnt care about the money

It is cos he'd lead her on.

Shirley might be upset but there's not much she can do about it. I wasn't talking exact age. There'd be less than 20 years difference. If Phil does pursue Tina his intention would be to have some fun and ease his loneliness not to hurt Shirley.