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Results:Will Phil and Tina give in temptation? (One night stand)
Yes - it will obviously happen
27 (58.70%)
No - it will never happen!!
19 (41.30%)
Voters: 46. You can't vote on this poll right now - are you signed in?
EastEnders - Phil and Tina
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monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by IanMandy:
“Yeah but he doesn't love Shirl, its Sharon he's always loved. And the fact that he went for others while Sharon was absent makes it likely that he'll go for others now Shirley's out of his life”

Steve said he loves shirl. And i believe him.
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by Keeki:
“Shirley might be upset but there's not much she can do about it. I wasn't talking exact age. There'd be less than 20 years difference. If Phil does pursue Tina his intention would be to have some fun and ease his loneliness not to hurt Shirley.”

He knows shirl wlll always love him and it would cause major complicationd. All just to get his leg over - pathetic

Im sorry but how can people vote yes if you voted phil should be with shirley? Doesnt that make the other vote vold?
Harlowe
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“So everything he did for shirl the last few months would be a waste of time. He paid her rent, went to do a deal to get her money, just to make her happy!

Also if tina fell for him and he didnt feel the same way, it would be another woman he used for his own gain. Which would cause more problems with shirl. Which im sure he knows is bad news for ben”

No its him paying penance for his role in Hev's death because he felt guilty and probably wanted to give Shirley some relief, he doesn't owe Shirley anything his not above hurting people to get what he wants, he's done it before, I think if you knew Phil's true history on the show and not just the one you've created round Phil and Shirley then you would hopefully understand better.

He slept with his brother wife, he slept with Mel, Lisa's best friend, he cheated on Kathy and slept with Glenda behind Shirley's back, theses are just some examples that I can think of, he wouldn't care how Shirley felt even if was her sister, she isn't eliminated just cause it would hurt her feelings and I don't see how this is bad news for Ben, his out of the picture for now.
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“No its him paying penance for his role in Hev's death because he felt guilty and probably wanted to give Shirley some relief, he doesn't owe Shirley anything his not above hurting people to get what he wants, he's done it before, I think if you knew Phil's true history on the show and not just the one you've created round Phil and Shirley then you would hopefully understand better.

He slept with his brother wife, he slept with Mel, Lisa's best friend, he cheated on Kathy and slept with Glenda behind Shirley's back, theses are just some examples that I can think of, he wouldn't care how Shirley felt even if was her sister, she isn't eliminated just cause it would hurt her feelings and I don't see how this is bad news for Ben, his out of the picture for now.”

Steve said it was cos of love! Why would he say that if it wasnt!
IanMandy
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“Steve said he loves shirl. And i believe him.”

Steve also said he loves Sharon... as have TPTB... and Letitia. And I believe them
ilovenicnacs
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“He said he wanted to make her happy. He said he didnt want her to end up in the gutter. Steve said he did them out of love (and guilt) so i completly disagree he did them cos he felt sorry for her.

She was happy by the end of it. He said he didnt care about the money

It is cos he'd lead her on.”

Cause she was happy by the end, she got her rent paid, she got thousands of pounds in blackmail money and she was on her way to a new life in Greece!

I agree though that they called a truce in the hospital, he did say he wanted her to have the money because he owed it to her (Heathers blood money).
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by IanMandy:
“Steve also said he loves Sharon... as have TPTB... and Letitia. And I believe them”

When did steve say that in the past year??! So why do you not believe him over shirley?

Lorraine hasnt exactly said he didnt love her. Bk said he loved her. Some writers have, nobody has ever come out and said he didnt love her
IanMandy
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“When did steve say that in the past year??! So why do you not believe him over shirley?”

Sharon was, and always will be, Phil's true love. It is the basis of most of his characterisation. Shirley was a warm body to cuddle at night- he didn't even trust her. He might have loved her as a friend but not as anything else.
Harlowe
23-09-2013
Where did he say that? I no doubt Phil had feelings for Shirley but not the love that last nor one that is passionate or lustful but more of convenience.
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by IanMandy:
“Sharon was, and always will be, Phil's true love. It is the basis of most of his characterisation. Shirley was a warm body to cuddle at night- he didn't even trust her. He might have loved her as a friend but not as anything else.”

Shirley tops all the polls. If sharon was it would be clear now and she would win.

Fed up of saying as a friend. Phil would not touch/hold a friends hand like the way he did. That is not in character!!
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“Where did he say that? I no doubt Phil had feelings for Shirley but not the love that last nor one that is passionate or lustful but more of convenience.”

In his ds interview, in all the magazine ones recently.

There was passion, it wasnt lustful cos thats not what they were. It was more lustufl with sharon i dont like lustful r/ships anyway!
Harlowe
23-09-2013
Have you got a link to the interview?

Drunkenness isn't really passion!
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“Have you got a link to the interview?

Drunkenness isn't really passion!”

Seriously? They were together for at least two years when drink wasnt involved!

Im on my ipad but i thought you wouldve read them already
J-B
23-09-2013
I don't think Phil would touch Tina with a barge pole. He normally only goes for women he sees as unobtainable or of middle class: Sharon, Kate, Stella, Glenda, Tanya to an extent; or he goes for someone who will feed and water the kids when they are around, and put a meal on the table: Shirley, Stella again.

We obviously know very little about her character, but Tina looks a bit common for Phils tastes. Unless it's something that comes totally out of nowhere.
Keeki
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by ilovenicnacs:
“Cause she was happy by the end, she got her rent paid, she got thousands of pounds in blackmail money and she was on her way to a new life in Greece!

I agree though that they called a truce in the hospital, he did say he wanted her to have the money because he owed it to her (Heathers blood money).”

If anyone was owed blood money it was George.
IanMandy
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“Shirley tops all the polls. If sharon was it would be clear now and she would win.

Fed up of saying as a friend. Phil would not touch/hold a friends hand like the way he did. That is not in character!!”

Aren't polls a matter of opinion though
Thats because Phil doesn't have any other friends
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by IanMandy:
“Aren't polls a matter of opinion though
Thats because Phil doesn't have any other friends”

Lol! So your basing that on him having no friends.

If it was obvious sharon was, then the polls would reflect it.
J-B
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“Lol! So your basing that on him having no friends.

If it was obvious sharon was, then the polls would reflect it.”

Polls on here are a rubbish way of gauging a popular opinion. Sample size is far too small and too easily biased.
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by J-B:
“Polls on here are a rubbish way of gauging a popular opinion. Sample size is far too small and too easily biased.”

Fb, twitter had loads of comments too. It shows its not just me who sees it
Keeki
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“He knows shirl wlll always love him and it would cause major complicationd. All just to get his leg over - pathetic

Im sorry but how can people vote yes if you voted phil should be with shirley? Doesnt that make the other vote vold?”

He can't spend his life tiptoeing around his ex girlfriend's feelings. I didn't vote Phil should be with Shirley?
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by Keeki:
“He can't spend his life tiptoeing around his ex girlfriend's feelings. I didn't vote Phil should be with Shirley?”

I meant other votes (it just happened to be in reply to your post ) ah he just doesnt know it yet, he tries to move on but fails
J-B
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“Fb, twitter had loads of comments too. It shows its not just me who sees it”

Again, small sample sizes of people who have a predisposed interest. It doesn't matter how many people think what anyway, thankfully it's a work of fiction and we've all watched it the same, doesn't make your or my opinion or the bloke down the streets opinion any more valid than anyone elses.
IanMandy
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“Fb, twitter had loads of comments too. It shows its not just me who sees it”

As pointed out above, polls aren't great and social networking sites aren't much better. Some older viewers, who would know all about the Phil/Sharon love story, don't use them for whatever reason. Similarly, I have seen many times the most ridiculous comments posted on there which are presented as serious ('Joey's the best chaarcter EVER, bring Heather back as a zombie for Halloween- that really baffled me- among others)
Keeki
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“I meant other votes (it just happened to be in reply to your post ) ah he just doesnt know it yet, he tries to move on but fails ”

What does that mean?
monalisa62003
23-09-2013
Originally Posted by J-B:
“Again, small sample sizes of people who have a predisposed interest. It doesn't matter how many people think what anyway, thankfully it's a work of fiction and we've all watched it the same, doesn't make your or my opinion or the bloke down the streets opinion any more valid than anyone elses.”

I didnt mean that, i just mean for those who say my opinion is ridicilous they just have to look at the polls and other comments. If mine is, than any other comment similar to that is ridicilous too same goes for steves.
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