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View Poll Results: Will Phil and Tina give in temptation? (One night stand)
Yes - it will obviously happen 27 58.70%
No - it will never happen!! 19 41.30%
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:47
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If he was interested he wouldnt offer to buy her out, would make the whole reason why he gave it to her vold

No sign of them getting back together anytime soon
What if he wants to give her some money so she can move out of the B and B?
Besides he wants to keep the club as Mitchell owned as possible.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:47
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If he was interested he wouldnt offer to buy her out, would make the whole reason why he gave it to her vold

No sign of them getting back together anytime soon
I never said they were getting back together or that they were madly in love.

You have a very black and white view of human emotions.

All I said was that the pill popping and throwing her out of the house doesn't draw a line under Phil and Sharon and mean he hates her. He will always have love for her, Phil Mitchell was created especially for her after all.

Why should him buying the club mean anything, Sharon gets a cash settlement for no investment and she doesn't have to deal with Ronnie and he wants to secure all of his businesses as Mitchell owned.

Sometimes a spade is a spade, or a bald head is just a bald head.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:49
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I never said they were getting back together or that they were madly in love.

You have a very black and white view of human emotions.

All I said was that the pill popping and throwing her out of the house doesn't draw a line under Phil and Sharon and mean he hates her. He will always have love for her, Phil Mitchell was created especially for her after all.
Things change. As i keep saying if they were so perfect then it would be obvious, phil might love sharon but shes not his true soulmate, she doesnt love him.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:50
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Things change. As i keep saying if they were so perfect then it would be obvious, phil might love sharon but shes not his true soulmate, she doesnt love him.
Who said they were perfect?

This is what I mean, you have a black and white view. It's an all or nothing scenario with you every time, when that's not the case at all.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:51
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Who said they were perfect?

This is what I mean, you have a black and white view. It's all or nothing, when that's not the case at all.
Cos sharon doesnt love him, not near as enough. Phil and shirley are perfect for each other. Thats why people voted for them
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:52
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Cos sharon doesnt love him, not near as enough. Phil and shirley are perfect for each other. Thats why people voted for them

You've gone on a tangent now. I don't give a damp turd about polls.

I politely end the conversation here.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:52
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Tinas age what has that got to do with anything. Dawn was younger than Tina consenting adults and all that.
I think they will sleep together
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:53
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You've gone on a tangent now. I don't give a damp turd about polls.



Nope, ive always believed that

If sharon won, people would be using that as a reason why shirley wasnt winning.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:53
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Tinas age what has that got to do with anything. Dawn was younger than Tina consenting adults and all that.
I think they will sleep together
How old is she meant to be anyway? Late 30s?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:54
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Nope, ive always believed that
Yes, I know. You've said enough times. But that wasn't the purpose of my post.

Again, I have no interest in polls. Favourite couples, favourite characters etc has no bearing on the story.

If character a is favourited over character b, it has no bearing on whether character a is in the wrong over a disagreement with b. Catch my drift?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:54
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Yes, I know. You've said enough times. But that wasn't the purpose of my post.
Ive edited it

If people dont care about polls - why vote in them?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:55
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Ive edited it

If people dont care about polls - why vote in them?
So have I. Thanks.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:56
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Yes, I know. You've said enough times. But that wasn't the purpose of my post.

Again, I have no interest in polls. Favourite couples, favourite characters etc has no bearing on the story.

If character a is favourited over character b, it has no bearing on whether character a is in the wrong over a disagreement with b. Catch my drift?
They werent about favourites?
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:57
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To try and get this back on track. Assume for a minute that Phil and Shirley are part of this great love story. How does that preclude Phil sleeping with Tina? It's not necessarily an either / or situation.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:58
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They werent about favourites?
It was an example, christ.

They were about people's opinion of who is the best partner, best couple etc. I have no interest.

As I said before, everybody interprets things in different ways.
Mine has no bearing on yours or spoiling your "closure".

It's a different opinion. You can't prove me "wrong" with the results of a popularity poll.
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Old 23-09-2013, 18:58
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To try and get this back on track. Assume for a minute that Phil and Shirley are part of this great love story. How does that preclude Phil sleeping with Tina? It's not necessarily an either / or situation.
If phil and shirley were meant to be soulmates, and his love for her run deeper, than sleeping with her sister would make that vold.

I believe everything that happened this year, he wouldnt do it to hurt her. The closest he would do it is if he thinks shirls dead, starts "grieving" and is probably drunk.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:00
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It was an example, christ.

They were about people's opinion of who is the best partner, best couple etc. I have no interest.

As I said before, everybody interprets things in different ways.
Mine has no bearing on yours or spoiling your "closure".

It's a different opinion. You can't prove me "wrong" with the results of a popularity poll.
Out of interest, do you vote in them and look at the results?
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:01
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To try and get this back on track. Assume for a minute that Phil and Shirley are part of this great love story. How does that preclude Phil sleeping with Tina? It's not necessarily an either / or situation.
Well he always mucks things up with women doesn't he? If he and Shirley aren't together, then I really don't think it would bother him having a bit of a fling with her sister.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:02
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If phil and shirley were meant to be soulmates, and his love for her run deeper, than sleeping with her sister would make that vold.
Welcome to the world of soap.

Out of interest, do you vote in them and look at the results?
No, I have no use for or interest in them. I don't need to know who's popular to validate my own opinion.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:03
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Welcome to the world of soap.



No, I have no use for or interest in them. I don't need to know who's popular to validate my own opinion.
Ah, but i believe all that cos of everything thats happened. If they were keeping in character and following their story after 6 years, then dtc wouldnt do it. Hopefully he is smarter than that
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:04
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Ah, but i believe all that cos of everything thats happened. If they were keeping in character and following their story after 6 years, then dtc wouldnt do it. Hopefully he is smarter than that
Well fair enough, that's how you see things. I hope you continue to enjoy the story.

The basis of my viewpoint was that loving Shirley or not has no bearing on any feelings, or not, he has for Sharon. And that you can't use DS poll results when having a difference of opinion. They aren't facts that you can use to back up your views.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:06
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I am sorry but I cant see a comparison between Phi and Shirley and Sharon and Grant. Grant was still going on about Sharon in the Thames crash years later after he had remarried and been widowed since. They were an epic couple and forgetting the small demographs of internet forums not representative of viewers Sharongate got 25 million viewers. There is no comparison and Phil and Shirley in my view are not soulmates not even close.

The biggest majority of viewers are older women who are not the biggest majority of DS users. They are not representative of the overall audience. Which is why things like Ronnies return etc did little for the ratings.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:07
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If phil and shirley were meant to be soulmates, and his love for her run deeper, than sleeping with her sister would make that vold.

I believe everything that happened this year, he wouldnt do it to hurt her. The closest he would do it is if he thinks shirls dead, starts "grieving" and is probably drunk.
As I don't buy into Phil and Shirley being soul mates, I don't think Phil would have any qualms about sleeping with Tina or anyone else. My interpretation of the story so far involves Shirley being a convenience for the kids and meals, he had no problem sleeping with Glenda when he was involved with Shirley. I think the hospital scenes summed up his guilt for putting her in the position she was in, but from a story point of view they met as equals in that they were both as morally culpable as eachother in covering up the killing.

Can't wait to find out how wrong I am and how I don't even watch it properly
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:08
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Well fair enough, that's how you see things. I hope you continue to enjoy the story.

The basis of my viewpoint was that loving Shirley or not has no bearing on any feelings, or not, he has for Sharon. And that you can't use DS poll results when having a difference of opinion. They aren't facts that you can use to back up your views.
I think it does, he might love sharon but if his connection with shirley was stronger, then he wouldnt want to hurt shirl over sharon, i believe thats what happened with glenda(when he dumped her twice) and rainie. If they followed that story this year (with sharon - i always said he only asked her to move in when shirl hated on him) then it does mean something. The poll results would reflect people have been watching and also saw this.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:09
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As I don't buy into Phil and Shirley being soul mates, I don't think Phil would have any qualms about sleeping with Tina or anyone else. My interpretation of the story so far involves Shirley being a convenience for the kids and meals, he had no problem sleeping with Glenda when he was involved with Shirley. I think the hospital scenes summed up his guilt for putting her in the position she was in, but from a story point of view they met as equals in that they were both as morally culpable as eachother in covering up the killing.

Can't wait to find out how wrong I am and how I don't even watch it properly
He dumped glenda twice and still wanted to marry shirl. Dunno how many times i have to explain this lol

I cant keep saying the same thing. The hand holding was love. Not guilt.
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