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View Poll Results: Will Phil and Tina give in temptation? (One night stand)
Yes - it will obviously happen 27 58.70%
No - it will never happen!! 19 41.30%
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:12
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Note to girls a man cheats on you repeatedly its love. Seriously anyone who thinks that I wonder If they even had a boyfriend. Then turns to people who have had adult relationships and tells them what a sexual loving relationship means.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:13
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He dumped glenda twice and still wanted to marry shirl. Dunno how many times i have to explain this lol

I cant keep saying the same thing. The hand holding was love. Not guilt.
I'm not talking about dumping Glenda, I'm saying that even if they were soul mates, he might still sleep with someone else. He might even decide to marry Shirley afterwards for all I care, but that would not stop him from reverting to form and using that apparently irresistable Mitchell charm on Tina.

BIB: We all know that's not true, LOL

My interpretation of the story supports that the hand holding was guilt. Not love. So please don't expect me to take your opinion as gospel.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:13
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I think it does, he might love sharon but if his connection with shirley was stronger, then he wouldnt want to hurt shirl over sharon, i believe thats what happened with glenda(when he dumped her twice) and rainie. If they followed that story this year (with sharon - i always said he only asked her to move in when shirl hated on him) then it does mean something. The poll results would reflect people have been watching and also saw this.
The poll results reflect opinion, a popularity poll does not prove me or anyone else wrong. They are not fact and have nothing to do with the show or story.

I don't fully understand what else you said, it's a bit of a muddle.

All I will say is asking someone to move in means nothing. He's lived with all of his women at one stage or another. And Sharon's the only woman he ever wanted a child with. Shirley was a child minder, very different thing.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:15
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The poll results reflect opinion, a popularity poll does not prove me or anyone else wrong. They are not fact and have nothing to do with the show or story.

I don't fully understand what else you said, it's a bit of a muddle.

All I will say is asking someone to move in means nothing. He's lived with all of his women at one stage or another. And Sharon's the only woman he ever wanted a child with. Shirley was a child minder, very different thing.
They would reflect people have been watching and following their story.

He could never have a kid with shirley - she wouldnt even want one? How does that prove anything? I think hes changed his mind about a kid with sharon now!

Just because sharon was a big love of phils life in the past doesnt mean things cant change or she is now.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:16
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Note to girls a man cheats on you repeatedly its love. Seriously anyone who thinks that I wonder If they even had a boyfriend. Then turns to people who have had adult relationships and tells them what a sexual loving relationship means.
I doubt they have. I've always found it funny, people who dictate to you what love is, when they have never been in a relationship themselves.

Soulmates don't tend to send their loved ones into danger either.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:16
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They would reflect people have been watching and following their story.
Some people watch and follow but still get it wrong though. Means nothing.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:18
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Their hand holding showed that Phil was in a vulnerable state. Newsflash!
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:19
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They would reflect people have been watching and following their story.
It means people have different opinions.

Do you understand the difference between fact and opinion?

How does that prove anything?
Welcome to my world.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:19
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Their hand holding showed that Phil was in a vulnerable state. Newsflash!
I went to visit an ex hospital and held his hand. My hubby did too.......
Maybe I should be worried.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:20
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God I know not, can't be doing with another love triangle. I hope DTC gives them a more gritty storyline, I'm sure the actors could pull it off and it would give EE a boost as this is what we want and not love and warmth.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:21
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I'm not talking about dumping Glenda, I'm saying that even if they were soul mates, he might still sleep with someone else. He might even decide to marry Shirley afterwards for all I care, but that would not stop him from reverting to form and using that apparently irresistable Mitchell charm on Tina.

BIB: We all know that's not true, LOL

My interpretation of the story supports that the hand holding was guilt. Not love. So please don't expect me to take your opinion as gospel.
. How could it be guilt? Shirley was upset at seeing him in pain. He heard her say this and held her hand, theres no reason why he would do this over guilt, you can wake up other ways

This is keeping in their story, anything shirley has ever done for phil (good things) made him love her more. Hence why they could call a truce

Anyone else, but not her sister. She would be devastated

It means people have different opinions.

Do you understand the difference between fact and opinion?

Welcome to my world.
I didnt say it was a fact, i said theres a lot more people who share the same opinion as me than there are of the phil/sharon fans. From what ive seen, anyway.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:23
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I went to visit an ex hospital and held his hand. My hubby did too.......
Maybe I should be worried.
Oh dear

If we were watching that scene with MonaVision, your hubby and your ex would have been having an affair behind your back and you would have fallen in love with the male nurse or something.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:23
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So Phina here we come.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:24
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Shirley might even give them her blessing in the end.

She could end up with Max anyway. He likes a bit of rough. Tina would be right up his street.
Yes, but there's rough and then there is scrag end, gutter rough like Shirley. As if any bloke in his right mind would be interested in her. As if.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:25
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. How could it be guilt? Shirley was upset at seeing him in pain. He heard her say this and held her hand, theres no reason why he would do this over guilt, you can wake up other ways

Anyone else, but not her sister. She would be devastated
He feels guilty that he took away the happiness she wanted, for the things he put her through by covering up her best friends murder.

Phil's not worried about devastating Shirley.

I didnt say it was a fact, i said theres a lot more people who share the same opinion as me than there are of the phil/sharon fans. From what ive seen, anyway.
Based on useless statistics, and its curious how you'd draw the conclusion that everyone must be either a Shirley or Sharon fan.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:26
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I didnt say it was a fact, i said theres a lot more people who share the same opinion as me than there are of the phil/sharon fans. From what ive seen, anyway.
You seem to think Phil/Sharon fans all belong in one box with one opinion? Or that anyone who dislikes Phil/Shirley is automatically a Sharon fan.

Like I said, it's not black and white.

Telling me the results of a poll doesn't make me understand your opinion. It has no place in the discussion.

Whether more people believe something else or not, I have my own opinion and my own interpretation of the show. It doesn't mean I haven't watched or haven't paid attention.

Dot could win a Sexiest Character poll, it won't make me suddenly be attracted to her.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:26
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Yes, but there's rough and then there is scrag end, gutter rough like Shirley. As if any bloke in his right mind would be interested in her. As if.
Quite!
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:27
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He feels guilty that he took away the happiness she wanted, for the things he put her through by covering up her best friends murder.

Phil's not worried about devastating Shirley.

Based on useless statistics, and its curious how you'd draw the conclusion that everyone must be either a Shirley or Sharon fan.
So why would he feel guilty about taking away her happiness if he wasnt worried? No logic there.
Not sure if that makes sense.

He didnt need to hold her hand,

I doubt theres many phil/shirl and phil/sharon fans, most of the time, its one or the other
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:27
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DS is not representative of the overall audience. Things popular on here like Ronnies return did little for ratings.
DS main demograph are not older females whereas they are the main demograph of EE viewers so the poll is useless for stats based evidence. More supposed to be for fun......
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:28
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He feels guilty that he took away the happiness she wanted, for the things he put her through by covering up her best friends murder.

Phil's not worried about devastating Shirley.



Based on useless statistics, and its curious how you'd draw the conclusion that everyone must be either a Shirley or Sharon fan.
God forbid anyone who likes them both. That's just not possible in Mona's world. It's all black and white with no room for colours.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:29
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You seem to think Phil/Sharon fans all belong in one box with one opinion?

Telling me the results of a poll doesn't make me understand your opinion. It has no place in the discussion.

Whether more people believe something else or not, I have my own opinion and my own interpretation of the show. It doesn't mean I haven't watched or haven't paid attention.

Dot could win a Sexiest Character poll, it won't make me suddenly be attracted to her.
So what did you make of phil only asking sharon to move in when shirl hated on him, then? Cos that to me wasnt showing he was completly genuine about sharon. Even after he chucked her out, he was only interested in calling her when he was lonely.

All of that had a lot of shirl stuff mixed in, it wasnt a genuine run of phil and sharon being together, not by either of them.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:29
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DS is not representative of the overall audience. Things popular on here like Ronnies return did little for ratings.
DS main demograph are not older females whereas they are the main demograph of EE viewers so the poll is useless for stats based evidence. More supposed to be for fun......
Its like that Sean on Corrie, he's meant to be quite poplar, but not on here. Yet the people here do not make up the majority.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:30
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So why would he feel guilty about taking away her happiness if he wasnt worried? No logoc there.

He didnt need to hold her hand,

I doubt theres many phil/shirl and phil/sharon fans, most of the time, its one or the other
I'm not even going to try and make sense of that, I'm done. Enjoy the rest of your night all
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:31
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I hope scrag end Shirley catches scrag end Tina in bed with Phil...

she is so angry and bitter that she runs up to Carl...

"Kill me now..."

This time Carl duly obliges.
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Old 23-09-2013, 19:32
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So what did you make of phil only asking sharon to move in when shirl hated on him, then? Cos that to me wasnt showing he was completly genuine about sharon. Even after he chucked her out, he was only interested in calling her when he was lonely.

All of that had a lot of shirl stuff mixed in, it wasnt a genuine run of phil and sharon being together, not by either of them.
You've gone off on another tangent, let me catch up...

Again, you're putting stock in every plot point, every action, every sentence. One action, one incident does not define everything.

Life and stories are more complex than a simple series of events that leave black and white results.

One doesn't negate another.
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