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Lucy Pargeter thinks Emmerdale doesn't get the credit it deserves
I am not sure if this is old, but do you agree, or disagree?
I personally like all four soaps. Emmerdale, Eastenders, Hollyoaks and Coronation Street, but I do quite agree with her. Sometimes I have found Emmerdale and Hollyoaks to be better than both Eastenders and Coronation Street, but they never win the 'best soap award'. Like I say, I am a fan of the four soaps I have mentioned, but I do agree with what she says. I think both Emmerdale and Hollyoaks do not recieve the recognition they deserve, otherwise they would have won the 'best soap' award. I assume this is partly down to ratings. Coronation Street and Eastenders get more ratings at the end of the day. It would be a nice change if Emmerdale, or Hollyoaks won this award, just to see them get some recognition. I am sure I will get a lot of negative opinions from Eastenders and Coronation Street fans, but I am not slating them, because I am a fan of them too. I just think Emmerdale and Hollyoaks are good quality too, just like Coronation Street and Eastenders. However, Emmerdale and Hollyoaks never win that award, which means the two soaps haven't had the recognition like Coronation Street and Eastenders. http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/emm...es.php#results |
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Seeing as Eastenders is still winning Best Soap awards despite the fact that even its fans think its now a bag of wank, I dont think awards mean very much.
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Its true. Even though Corrie and Eastenders always wins Best Soap, i think Emmerdale or Hollyoaks should win that award for a change. But normal awards, Emmerdale and Hollyoaks wins a few but we'd like it if won best soap.
Lets hope next year at NTA and BSA Emmerdale wins, i think ED always top three, Hollyoaks 4th. We'll see I love all soaps but Eastenders my fave but i think Emmerdale deserves to win it this time or Hollyoaks. Imagine Emmerdale wins NTA and Hollyoaks wins BSA x |
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I certainly think Emmerdale should win best soap at the NTA
in January next year...The acting and the storylines have been superior to any other soap...apart that is from Roy and Hayley in CS....their story and acting in particular as outshone everyone else's... Hopefully they will win the award for the top actor and actress |
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its what happen when tweenies with mobile phones and numerous email accounts hijack these awards. if you've ever watched it you can hear them all screaming in the audience like a demented pack of idiots anytime an EE characters name is mentioned.
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Lucy Pargeter is correct. EE & Corrie get to battle it out for most awards each year whether they deserve them or not. From what I've seen of Emmerdale, it appears to be the best soap at the mo.
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its what happen when tweenies with mobile phones and numerous email accounts hijack these awards. if you've ever watched it you can hear them all screaming in the audience like a demented pack of idiots anytime an EE characters name is mentioned.
The only top award EE has received this year is the BAFTA, which wasn't viewer-voted. Can't blame "tweenies with mobile phones" for that one. |
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Does that go for Corrie too then, seeing as they've won all the top viewer-voted awards this year?
The only top award EE has received this year is the BAFTA, which wasn't viewer-voted. Can't blame "tweenies with mobile phones" for that one. Says a lot about the BAFTAS. |
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Seeing as Eastenders is still winning Best Soap awards despite the fact that even its fans think its now a bag of wank, I dont think awards mean very much.
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Forgot about that. EE won a BAFTA?
Says a lot about the BAFTAS.
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I'd say the biggest barrier to Emmerdale winning is actually Corrie... because of split audience loyalty with the ITV soap viewer.
I'm not sure what the split is between people watching all three of just two of the big three but i'd wager a kidney (see what i did there) that ITV and Corrie share an audience of loyal viewers who "only watch the ITV soaps" vs loyal EE viewers who don't have to split their vote, Ee always gets the blame as the competition but let's be honest it's Corrie that stops it getting the number 1 soap tag. Also for the whingers who go on about EE winning all the time... hasn't Corrie won best soap at the NTA's (i think it's these awards, one of them anyway) for 3 out of the past 4 years? Tying in nicely with the notion that EE hasn't been great for about 3 years? |
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I think a lot of it's about perception. I suspect people who don't watch Emmerdale perceive it to be about farming and of no interest to them.
When I was growing up in small industrial town, lots of people went walks in the countryside, they fished, went horse riding, kept animals, just generally took an interest in the countryside that was all around them. Now, even in small towns and villages, people lead a much more 'urbanised' indoorsy lifestyle, and the countryside is of no interest to them - even if they live there! Emmerdale is always going to struggle to reach the number one spot, because those who don't watch it probably think it would be of no interest to them. |
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I think a lot of it's about perception. I suspect people who don't watch Emmerdale perceive it to be about farming and of no interest to them.
When I was growing up in small industrial town, lots of people went walks in the countryside, they fished, went horse riding, kept animals, just generally took an interest in the countryside that was all around them. Now, even in small towns and villages, people lead a much more 'urbanised' indoorsy lifestyle, and the countryside is of no interest to them - even if they live there! Emmerdale is always going to struggle to reach the number one spot, because those who don't watch it probably think it would be of no interest to them. People will work out what they like and mostly without prejudice... especially when a show has been on for 40 years! I don't watch it but i certainly know it has more going on than sheep dipping and country walks
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I would love to see Emmerdale win at the NTAs.
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I would agree to some extent, even when they do well in ratings people are more focused on using them to bash EastEnders instead of just giving Emmerdale the praise it deserves. If it keeps the quality up I do think it will be rewarded next year, but there's long time, in soap terms, until the award season. Any of the soaps could start producing great runs of episodes, or suffer post major storyline dip in quality. I am a little worried that they don't seem to have much lined up after the Cameron storyline is concluded, but right now Emmerdale is the only soap I'm enjoying on a daily basis so I hope I'm wrong. Quote:
It won based on one episode... and a damn good one at that. It does manages them from time to time, even at times of "crisis"
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Not sure i agree... You can credit people with some intelligence... after all look at the popularity of Downtown Abbey? Which is all posh frocks and high tea. About as far removed form the lives most of us lead a imaginable.
People will work out what they like and mostly without prejudice... especially when a show has been on for 40 years! I don't watch it but i certainly know it has more going on than sheep dipping and country walks ![]() Costume dramas do well because they look nice a lot of the time. It's pleasant on a Sunday evening to watch people being polite and well dressed, in a nice setting. Most of us do not commit serious crimes but thrillers, CSI etc do well because they're exciting and dramatic. Emmerdale in the old days was VERY much about the life of the farm, and tbh it wasn't attractive to younger viewers. That's why they changed it, but I think there is still a perception out there that it's still about life on the farm - and that wrongly, this is boring. Lots of people today do find the countryside quite alien, if they don't live in it or go into it. Emmerdale doesn't do what other rural dramas do, either, which is to take advantage of the beautiful location. If you think about rural set dramas like Heartbeat, they're as much about the scenery as the story and that attracts viewers. What Emmerdale does is have people going about their everyday (in soap terms) lives, but it happens to be in a rural location and some have rural jobs. You don't see the beautiful countryside, so there isn't that attraction.if you lived in a huge city like London or Manchester, I can see why you wouldn't be interested in a soap that you might perceive to bear very little comparison to your everyday life. Why do you think that most British made dramas and comedies which go out UK wide are set around London,and home counties or other highly populated areas? It's because that's where most people live. If it's a rural area, they fall back on using the scenery to draw people in. How often do you see a programme go out nationally which is set in Wales, or Scotland( and if it is in Scotland, it's always in Glasgow or Edinburgh). Programme makers like to root their audience in some familiarity if it's a homemade programme. |
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I'm not saying people aren't intelligent, but if they don't think it's going to be of any interest they won't watch. I've seen several comments on here along the likes of 'who would want to watch something about a bunch of farmers.'
Costume dramas do well because they look nice a lot of the time. It's pleasant on a Sunday evening to watch people being polite and well dressed, in a nice setting. Most of us do not commit serious crimes but thrillers, CSI etc do well because they're exciting and dramatic. Emmerdale in the old days was VERY much about the life of the farm, and tbh it wasn't attractive to younger viewers. That's why they changed it, but I think there is still a perception out there that it's still about life on the farm - and that wrongly, this is boring. Lots of people today do find the countryside quite alien, if they don't live in it or go into it. Emmerdale doesn't do what other rural dramas do, either, which is to take advantage of the beautiful location. If you think about rural set dramas like Heartbeat, they're as much about the scenery as the story and that attracts viewers. What Emmerdale does is have people going about their everyday (in soap terms) lives, but it happens to be in a rural location and some have rural jobs. You don't see the beautiful countryside, so there isn't that attraction.if you lived in a huge city like London or Manchester, I can see why you wouldn't be interested in a soap that you might perceive to bear very little comparison to your everyday life. Why do you think that most British made dramas and comedies which go out UK wide are set around London,and home counties or other highly populated areas? It's because that's where most people live. If it's a rural area, they fall back on using the scenery to draw people in. How often do you see a programme go out nationally which is set in Wales, or Scotland( and if it is in Scotland, it's always in Glasgow or Edinburgh). Programme makers like to root their audience in some familiarity if it's a homemade programme. As i said the show's been on for 40 years... people have had ample to tune and see if they like it... People know they glammed up the show to appeal to a wider audience. It's not like it doesn't get enough exposure it's on 6 times a week and have a regular everyday evening slot. People know it exists and they know whether they like it or not. It's just not as popular (although doing very well at the moment) it doesn't have the reach of the other Corrie and EE and as i said this is mostly down to Corrie... it's the nations favourite, it's ITV's favourite and it's the "North's" Favourite. It's always playing second fiddle to the cobbles. |
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The acting in Emmerdale is not up to the level of the other two big soaps so it'll never win many awards. Too much ham and Lucy is as guilty as anyone for that.
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I think that is sarcasm!
As i said the show's been on for 40 years... people have had ample to tune and see if they like it... People know they glammed up the show to appeal to a wider audience. It's not like it doesn't get enough exposure it's on 6 times a week and have a regular everyday evening slot. People know it exists and they know whether they like it or not. It's just not as popular (although doing very well at the moment) it doesn't have the reach of the other Corrie and EE and as i said this is mostly down to Corrie... it's the nations favourite, it's ITV's favourite and it's the "North's" Favourite. It's always playing second fiddle to the cobbles. ![]() I agree, it doesn't have the same reach as Corrie or Eastenders, but I suspect the same would happen if a soap set in the Brecon Beacons, or the Trossachs would suffer the same issues, no matter how much they followed the soap formulas. Even River City, excellent as it is, would probably struggle to gain a foothold in Essex! People like a bit of familiarity, or in contrast to that something completely foreign and (perhaps) glamorous as escapism. Added, to that, most of us grew up watching Corrie, where Emmerdale was a daytime soap (I think) for a lot of its early years, so Corrie has the advantage of being an established instiution. Emmerdale doesn't have that. |
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Emmerdale has been the most consistent soap this year so I reckon it's in with a good chance at the NTAs.
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No, the comments I'm referring to were genuine criticisms. If they were sarcasm they were very badly done
![]() I agree, it doesn't have the same reach as Corrie or Eastenders, but I suspect the same would happen if a soap set in the Brecon Beacons, or the Trossachs would suffer the same issues, no matter how much they followed the soap formulas. Even River City, excellent as it is, would probably struggle to gain a foothold in Essex! People like a bit of familiarity, or in contrast to that something completely foreign and (perhaps) glamorous as escapism. Added, to that, most of us grew up watching Corrie, where Emmerdale was a daytime soap (I think) for a lot of its early years, so Corrie has the advantage of being an established instiution. Emmerdale doesn't have that. ![]() It was a daytime soap but it's been an evening soap as long as i can remember and I'm 35 certainly as long as ee has been around so don't think that makes much difference. The oldies quite like Emmerdale my mum loves it! |
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The acting in Emmerdale is not up to the level of the other two big soaps so it'll never win many awards. Too much ham and Lucy is as guilty as anyone for that.
In Emmerdale there are only a few weak links - Ali is the one who stands out, Declan and Megan can be weak as well. Sean and Robbie were both terrible to begin with but are gradually improving, especially since Robbie has been turned into a kind of pathetic, comedy character rather than a serious villain. |
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Honestly if it was on DS don't worry about it being indicative of the the thoughts of the greater UK populace
![]() It was a daytime soap but it's been an evening soap as long as i can remember and I'm 35 certainly as long as ee has been around so don't think that makes much difference. The oldies quite like Emmerdale my mum loves it! Obviously I am generalising but I do think that 'familiarity' is something that broadcasters take into consideration, otherwise you would see far more programmes set outwith the London/Home counties and (dare I say) Manchester areas, which are where the mass of the UK population live. It's been a while since I've seen a nationally broadcast, massively popular drama or comedy set in Wick or Alloa! I think this is still a factor which could hobble Emmerdale, but at the same time, obviously not much given its viewing figures. I think ITV also has the perception that Corrie is 'the jewel in its crown.' That might be changing though, given that they had 'equal billing' on the advertising campaign. |
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Honestly if it was on DS don't worry about it being indicative of the the thoughts of the greater UK populace
![]() It was a daytime soap but it's been an evening soap as long as i can remember and I'm 35 certainly as long as ee has been around so don't think that makes much difference. The oldies quite like Emmerdale my mum loves it! ![]() Mind you I'm 38 and mine makes jokes about MY age. She hasn't quite figured out the implication for her.
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Seeing Eastenders is still winning Best Soap awards despite the fact that even its fans think its now a bag of wank, I dont think awards mean very much.
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