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Old 03-02-2005, 13:04
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Victor was by no means dull, I did'nt like him as a person, in fact I thought he was a bully and completly lacking in empathy. But he was definatly not dull. He was entertaining in his own way, and he was definatly an assett to BB5. I just wish Fight night had never happened in the way it did, I blame BB producers for that, cos I liked Emma and would have liked to have seen her stay in the house longer. Victor and Emma in 'fight night' were both victims of BB's chananigins imo.

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Old 03-02-2005, 13:10
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Originally Posted by lulu g
Bizarre reasoning, if you don't mind my saying so. Both Alex and Mel are totally irrelevant to the question of whether Kate is (even) duller than Victor. I am inclined to agree with darling that she is.
With all due respect - I think that is bizarre reasoning from you.

I posted why I thought Kate & Dan had the greatest attributes.

I also didn't rate Victor & wasn't surprised to see the media ridicule him. World's worst 'gangsta', 'a joke', etc....

I was just surprised to see an Alex fan defend Victor - that is all.

Victor said a few funny things in the diary room, but was useless in the house.
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Old 03-02-2005, 13:13
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[quote=metafis]Victor was by no means dullQUOTE]

I think he was. He didn't know what to do in the house.

After the argument with Shell, the glorious Dan ridiculed him on the sofa
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Old 03-02-2005, 14:25
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Anna and Dean's dry wit, Brian's outrageousness, Kate's energy, and throw in a bit of Alex's ridiculous posturing for good measure.
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Old 03-02-2005, 14:27
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Originally Posted by new_rose
With all due respect - I think that is bizarre reasoning from you.

I posted why I thought Kate & Dan had the greatest attributes.

I also didn't rate Victor & wasn't surprised to see the media ridicule him. World's worst 'gangsta', 'a joke', etc....

I was just surprised to see an Alex fan defend Victor - that is all.

Victor said a few funny things in the diary room, but was useless in the house.
There wasn't any reasoning in my post, bizarre or otherwise - was there? If you just mean that you don't agree that Kate is duller than Victor, you should simply say so - that would be a perfectly acceptable thing to say. I already knew you were surprised to see an Alex fan defend Victor. However, I believe darling was not so much defending Victor as criticizing Kate, and I still don't see why you should assume that darling's opinion of Victor would be influenced by Victor's opinion of Mel.
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Old 03-02-2005, 14:36
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Originally Posted by lulu g
There wasn't any reasoning in my post, bizarre or otherwise - was there? If you just mean that you don't agree that Kate is duller than Victor, you should simply say so - that would be a perfectly acceptable thing to say. I already knew you were surprised to see an Alex fan defend Victor. However, I believe darling was not so much defending Victor as criticizing Kate, and I still don't see why you should assume that darling's opinion of Victor would be influenced by Victor's opinion of Mel.
I don't know why you are commenting on a comment I made to another poster - maybe you can tell me?

You think Victor is far more interesting than Kate - fair play to you.
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Old 03-02-2005, 14:54
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Originally Posted by new_rose
I posted my favourite attributes of BB housemates including why I thought Kate was great.

I was just surprised to see someone who loves Alex say Victor was more interesting/entertaining than Kate when Victor criticised/ridiculed Mel during the BB panto.
New_rose, you addressed the above post to me, although you are evidently referring to darling - that is how we ended up discussing your comment to another poster.

It would be more accurate to say I have no interest in either Victor or Kate but, of the two, I find Kate the duller.
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Old 03-02-2005, 14:55
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Victor's certainly funnier than Kate. (IMHO)
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Old 03-02-2005, 15:41
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Originally Posted by lulu g
It would be more accurate to say I have no interest in either Victor or Kate but, of the two, I find Kate the duller.
And I respect your viewpoint, though I disagree with it.

Victor was hopeless & boring outside the diary room.

I think Kate had a brilliant sense of humour. One of my favourite moments in BB3 was Kate was walking past Alex when he was washing kitchen utensils at the sink. Alex was crouched awkwardly over the sink with his legs positioned far back. Kate looked at Alex & burst out laughing. She asked him why he was standing like that? Alex laughed & said he always kept his legs well back to stop them being splashed! Kate & Alex laughed again.

This wasn't some random moment on live feed - it was in the edited show.

It was moments like that which made BB3 great.

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Old 03-02-2005, 15:43
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Originally Posted by new_rose
And I respect you're viewpoint, though I disagree with it.

Victor was hopeless & boring outside the diary room.

I think Kate had a brilliant sense of humour. One of my favourite moments in BB3 was when Kate was walking past Alex, washing kitchen utensils at the sink. Alex was crouched awkwardly over the sink with his legs positioned far back. Kate burst out laughing & asked Alex why he was standing like that? Alex laughed & said he always kept his legs well back to stop them being splashed! Kate & Alex laughed again.

This wasn't some random moment on live feed - it was in the edited show.

It was moments like that which made BB3 great.
If you say so ..... :yawn: :sleep:
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Old 03-02-2005, 15:48
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If you say so ..... :yawn: :sleep:
The public agreed with me.

Maybe you haven't got a clue what makes good television??

Maybe you loved one of the boring BB losers who disappeared after BB finished??

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Old 03-02-2005, 15:50
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Victor's certainly funnier than Kate. (IMHO)
If he was, he wouldn't have disappeared.
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Old 03-02-2005, 15:58
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Originally Posted by new_rose
It was moments like that which made BB3 great.
You're easily pleased aren't you?!

And just for the record I liked Victor AND Kate, but Victor was by far the better HM
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:04
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Originally Posted by new_rose
And I respect your viewpoint, though I disagree with it.

Victor was hopeless & boring outside the diary room.

I think Kate had a brilliant sense of humour. One of my favourite moments in BB3 was Kate was walking past Alex when he was washing kitchen utensils at the sink. Alex was crouched awkwardly over the sink with his legs positioned far back. Kate looked at Alex & burst out laughing. She asked him why he was standing like that? Alex laughed & said he always kept his legs well back to stop them being splashed! Kate & Alex laughed again.

This wasn't some random moment on live feed - it was in the edited show.

It was moments like that which made BB3 great.
I guess you had to be there.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:05
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Originally Posted by Cisse9
You're easily pleased aren't you?!

And just for the record I liked Victor AND Kate, but Victor was by far the better HM
Victor was sad & awful & I wasn't surprised to see him ridiculed by Russel Brand, Heat, OK, The Sun, The Daily Star, The Mirror, on bb forums, etc,etc....

Still can't think of anything Victor did of any interest outside the diary room.....

Was it all a con???

And by the way, the producers showed Kate & Alex having a laugh at the kitchen sink for a reason.

You might understand this if you ever get to produce a reality tv program.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:10
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Originally Posted by lulu g
I guess you had to be there.
You certainly had to be there to understand the point of Alex - or was it his looks that got him some fans??

His personality wouldn't have been appreciated so much if it was in the body of Jonny, PJ, Lee, etc
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:10
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Originally Posted by new_rose
The public agreed with me.

Maybe you haven't got a clue what makes good television??

Maybe you loved one of the boring BB losers who disappeared after BB finished??

Maybe you better watch your phraseology - it's almost insulting and therefore almost reportable .....
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:14
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Originally Posted by new_rose
You certainly had to be there to understand the point of Alex - or was it his looks that got him some fans??

His personality wouldn't have been appreciated so much if it was in the body of Jonny, PJ, Lee, etc
Alex again?
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:14
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Originally Posted by Omah
Maybe you better watch your phraseology - it's almost insulting and therefore almost reportable .....
What is?? - the fact that a moment you thought irrelevant between Kate & Alex made it to edit??

Your phraseology posted on a post I made was almost insulting & therefore almost reportable....
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:17
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Originally Posted by lulu g
Alex again?
It was darling of course who originally talked about Kate.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:18
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Originally Posted by new_rose
What is?? - the fact that a moment you thought irrelevant between Kate & Alex made it to edit??

Your phraseology posted on a post I made was almost insulting & therefore almost reportable....
As you are a new member, I suggest you read the forum T&Cs - please note, you are not allowed to insult other FMS - if you do do, the insulted FM may report you to the moderators .....
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:19
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Originally Posted by new_rose
It was darling of course who originally talked about Kate.
No, it was you.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:23
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Originally Posted by lulu g
No, it was you.
I posted Kate's attributes which was the point of the thread.

I didn't agree with someone who said Victor was a great housemate.

Darling came on to compare Victor to Kate, so Darling was the first.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Omah
As you are a new member, I suggest you read the forum T&Cs - please note, you are not allowed to insult other FMS - if you do do, the insulted FM may report you to the moderators .....
I am fully aware of the forum T&CS & I have insulted no one.

You were sarcastic to a post I made.
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Old 03-02-2005, 16:37
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Originally Posted by new_rose
I posted Kate's attributes which was the point of the thread.

I didn't agree with someone who said Victor was a great housemate.

Darling came on to compare Victor to Kate, so Darling was the first.
Ah, I see - when you said 'originally talked about', you actually meant 'talked about second'. ... Anyway, darling talked about Kate in response to your post about Kate (and Dan). That's fair enough - that's how discussions work. By contrast, you mentioned Alex (along with Victor and Mel) in a discussion about Kate (and have continued to do so), although he has no relevance to the discussion in hand. Do you see the difference?
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