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Old 29-09-2013, 14:42
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Why have a repeat of it on Saturday evenings for one week only, then not do it again? I was hoping to watch it last night, yes I understand there's the 9pm showing on Friday, but I was already taping two things at once. Yes there's iPlayer, but what about us with poor internet? I'm disappointed.
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Old 29-09-2013, 22:55
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Yeah. It was removed at the last minute and it looks like there will be no repeats again in future either
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Old 30-09-2013, 06:34
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Aah, that's why I got a recording of American Dad then!
Poor showing BBC!
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Old 30-09-2013, 06:38
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everything else seems to get multiple showings on bbc 3.
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Old 30-09-2013, 08:37
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Possibly to do with the rights the BBC have bought?

They may have decided (rather late) that burning them off on a "same week" repeat isn't the most effective use of what might be a very limited number of repeat rights?
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Old 30-09-2013, 09:21
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Possibly to do with the rights the BBC have bought?

They may have decided (rather late) that burning them off on a "same week" repeat isn't the most effective use of what might be a very limited number of repeat rights?
Why would the BBC go for a shit deal from a company they own?
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Old 30-09-2013, 23:02
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Seriously? Can you imagine the outrage if they were given special rates or whatever? I assume they got the best deal they could.

I will just make sure I OB in favour of anything else that gets a narrative repeat in future
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:48
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BBC co-produced the show, I wouldn't say its special treatment if they got more showings of it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:46
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BBC co-produced the show, I wouldn't say its special treatment if they got more showings of it.
BBC America co-produced the show, with Canada's Space and a few Canadian Television Funds. It's distributed by BBC Worldwide.

Safe to say the only reason it's airing on the BBC, is because BBC Worldwide were struggling, so they either cut the BBC a good deal or did some friendly back scratching for each other...
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:15
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thanks obama!
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Old 01-10-2013, 20:04
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What does Obama have to do with any of this? It's being produced by a few Canadian companies (Rogers Cable Fund, Temple Street Productions, etc.) and BBC America (75% owned by BBC Worldwide, a British company, and 25% owned by Discovery Communications) and BBC Worldwide...

So that's 33.3% Canadian, about 58.275% British and about 8.325% American
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Old 01-10-2013, 20:49
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What does Obama have to do with any of this?

Kinda the point.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama
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Old 01-10-2013, 21:05
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So that's 33.3% Canadian, about 58.275% British and about 8.325% American
Aside from that math not working at all, "British" is really zero percent. BBC America is incorporated as an American company. It is irrelevant that it is three-quarters British owned. Downton Abbey is made by Carnival Films, which is owned by NBC/Universal, but that doesn't make Downton Abbey American. Although, Downton Abbey IS partly American, but solely through the fact that PBS co-produces it. The foreign ownership of Carnival Films doesn't matter. Carnival is still incorporated as a British company regardless of what bigger company owns it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 21:34
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Aside from that math not working at all, "British" is really zero percent. BBC America is incorporated as an American company. It is irrelevant that it is three-quarters British owned. Downton Abbey is made by Carnival Films, which is owned by NBC/Universal, but that doesn't make Downton Abbey American. Although, Downton Abbey IS partly American, but solely through the fact that PBS co-produces it. The foreign ownership of Carnival Films doesn't matter. Carnival is still incorporated as a British company regardless of what bigger company owns it.
I don't think BBC America has any ownership of the show. I think they pre-buy the rights, so fund the show but don't own it. The show on the other hand is distributed by BBC Worldwide, a British company, which arguably (though not really) makes it partially British. For all intents and purposes it is Canadian though.
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Old 01-10-2013, 21:55
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I don't think BBC America has any ownership of the show. I think they pre-buy the rights, so fund the show but don't own it. The show on the other hand is distributed by BBC Worldwide, a British company, which arguably (though not really) makes it partially British. For all intents and purposes it is Canadian though.
Precise "ownership" details of individual series is something we rarely hear about, because it isn't reported in the entertainment media as a rule. When a broadcaster -- not a production company -- is credited as a producer or co-producer of a show, it definitely means more than just buying the rights. Paying more seems to buy a foreign broadcaster the right to be called a co-producer, to put their name on a show in a way they otherwise could not. Look at Sky Atlantic. They have aired all sorts of American series as straight imports. Now in the last couple of weeks they have formally boarded Showtime's Penny Dreadful as a co-producer. It doesn't seem quite right to me that a channel can buy its way into calling itself a co-producer of a project it didn't conceive or commission, but those seem to be the rules. Anyway, this has strayed from the topic at hand, but I thought I would just share my thinking on a subject that I have always found interesting (international TV co-productions).
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Old 01-10-2013, 22:14
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Still doesn't help the OP.

BBC3 show no repeats of this yet they did it for the first 2 episodes last weekend. Rather odd decision. Seems like BBC iPlayer is the only choice anyone has to catch up if you miss it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 22:53
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Safe to say the only reason it's airing on the BBC, is because BBC Worldwide were struggling, so they either cut the BBC a good deal or did some friendly back scratching for each other...
That may be your opinion, which is fine, but that's all it is unless you can back up it up with credible sources. It also may well be libellous.
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Old 01-10-2013, 23:28
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That may be your opinion, which is fine, but that's all it is unless you can back up it up with credible sources. It also may well be libellous.
I don't really know how to respond to that, because I said one thing and meant something slightly different.

I worded it like a fact, but it was really more of an opinion. But my understanding was the BBC was reducing it's acquisitions budget , Therefore we can assume it wasn't too expensive, and there wasn't a bidding war. Which is odd for a critically acclaimed North American series, which had already been renewed for a second season.
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Old 02-10-2013, 22:27
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I don't really know how to respond to that, because I said one thing and meant something slightly different.
Ahh. You said one thing and meant your mother. How Freudian of you

I worded it like a fact, but it was really more of an opinion. But my understanding was the BBC was reducing it's acquisitions budget ,
Reducing but not to zero.

Therefore we can assume it wasn't too expensive, and there wasn't a bidding war.
Or they passed on something else and bought this instead. I guess we'll never know
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