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Pilotofthestorm
29-09-2013
Well the Romans used to throw Christians to the lions for entertainment, fast forward 2000 years and it would appear that nothing much has changed....
fefster
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Rogana Josh:
“Electric chairs would be a good idea as they wouldn't be so keen to rush to sit on them and it would weed out the rubbish acts.”

Ejector seats! Launch them into space if they are shit.
fefster
29-09-2013
Also, I am suspicious of you OP.

you say you would rather watch your mother take a shower than watch X Factor but you seem to know a lot about it including judges cliches and the like.

I think you think you are a good writer and you think your rant is witty which is why you posted it and not because you hate the X Factor.
scamrasc
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by RiverM:
“time for a funeral, I reckon”

the words shit, hit and fan sprang to mind.
especially when saint nicole was insulted. would have been enough fuel without that, but it's pretty much a death penalty on DS. although to be fair, she is a highly talented vocalist.
Orangemaid
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by scamrasc:
“the words shit, hit and fan sprang to mind.
especially when saint nicole was insulted. would have been enough fuel without that, but it's pretty much a death penalty on DS.”

what was said
Hillbillygale
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by spencer1973:
“What makes me laugh is that Cowell is not interested in the show anymore, he doesn't appear on it much (if at all), so why should anyone else give two hoots.

At least it will provide a secure future for his illegitimate soon to be born child”

Oh dear, why single out Simon's child? I thought illegitimate was fashionable these days since probably half of the younger population in the western Europe were/are born out of the wedlock.
MandyXZ
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by abcd:
“Surely im not the only one who couldnt be arsed to read past the first sentence”

I couldn't even be arsed reading the first sentence.
scamrasc
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Orangemaid:
“what was said”

end of the first big paragraph;

"And then there's this Nicole person. I don't think there exists (in a public figure), such a massive gulf between who she is and who she thinks she is. I believe she used to sing in the Pussy Cat Dolls, which in itself, should render her entirely unsuitable to comment on anyone else's musical talent. It's like asking a cat to be on the Nobel prize committee. She also appears to have a personality which consists of a handful of settings (including Faux-Emotion, Faux-Enthusiasm, hyper narcissism, and industrial strength vanity), all of them nauseating to a quite worrying degree."

i don't think there's ever been a judge loved as much and held up to such levels on the DS forums as what nicole is. a lot of posters here seem to hail her as the saviour and goddess of x factor.
oathy
29-09-2013
The old boot camp might have been predictable but it was better than this mix off Tears and Bollocks.

Crying at the start of performing that's a new one.
"We sacrificed everything for this" a group member said only losing out to another lot.
what? Saturday night gig down the pub?

I swear if one more person mentions a child..here's a better idea get down to the local college get some Qualifications and there wont be a need to try and win a talent show.

This is totally what Xfactor didn't need. it was bad enough bloody Barlow back this entire weekend has been just soaked in Fake emotion there was nothing new or revamped about this it was more of the same with big huge dollops of BS for added effect.
InsomniacParade
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Gnome_Foam:
“I would normally rather watch my own mother take a shower than watch the X factor, but for some inexplicable reason I found myself watching most of last night's episode. I really wish I hadn't.

I realise my sentiments will be nothing new but I just felt like I had to vent somewhere as it did (I'm sad to admit) make me quite angry.

For starters, who the hell ARE these judges?? Quite what Sharon Osborne knows about music, and what makes a song great is absolutely beyond me. Yet she sits there expressing all the authority of someone who invented music. And sound. And everything else that exists. The woman's an egotistical, witless, moron who knows nothing. About anything.
Same goes for Louis Walsh. Is there anyone in the public eye (outside of politics) who exhibits less wit and real knowledge of his chosen subject than this Cretin? I have an airing cupboard that knows more about music than this idiot.
Of the four, Gary Barlow is the ONLY one who has any business judging musical ability. I'd NEVER (even in an emergency) listen to his music, but I can at least acknowledge that he's a capable songwriter, so from that point of view he could be said to have some authority on the subject of musical ability.
And then there's this Nicole person. I don't think there exists (in a public figure), such a massive gulf between who she is and who she thinks she is. I believe she used to sing in the Pussy Cat Dolls, which in itself, should render her entirely unsuitable to comment on anyone else's musical talent. It's like asking a cat to be on the Nobel prize committee. She also appears to have a personality which consists of a handful of settings (including Faux-Emotion, Faux-Enthusiasm, hyper narcissism, and industrial strength vanity), all of them nauseating to a quite worrying degree.

The show itself is STILL massively dependent on sob stories and massively exaggerated emotion, all of which is pumped up to 11 by the ever willing judges (and contestants) - one mention of some guy's kid was enough to send him into tears. What the hell was the story there?? Was his kid born with no arms, legs or head? Or body? I suspect not. Where was the booing? Or are people REALLY that stupid to see what's going on?
And then we have Louis chiming in with one of his 7 sentences that he knows how to say - "How much does this mean to you?". For F*CK'S SAKE!! As if any of the deluded wannabes are going to shrug their shoulders and mumble, "Meh, not much, really".
Then there's the classic "I've made my decision" after which it still takes 20 seconds of "tension" before the big reveal, like the judge who said it had crashed and had to be reset by one of the production crew.
I also noticed the show has a new method of exploiting/humiliating the contestants - by picking them for the next round then ditching them because someone sang better than them. 1) Why not just get more chairs to sit on, and 2) to make it more humiliating, why not have one of the production staff on hand to actually pull the seat from under them as they're about to sit on it - thus indicating they're really getting binned?

This entire show exists entirely as a money making scam. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with music, or talent or genuinely doing something good in this horrible, cruel world we live in. It's about cynically exploiting everyone from the audience to the contestants.
And, from a personal viewpoint, as someone who adores music (listening to, and writing/recording) and loves good, thoughtful, ENTERTAINING TV, this programme is everything that's wrong in the world. It not only encourages laziness (by giving the impression fame is merely an audition away - no hard work required) but it actually discourages originality by relying on the same old tired musical clichés.

The sooner it's dead and gone, the sooner it can be replaced by some other mindless, turgid crap (which entertainment doesn't HAVE to be) ”

Thousands of years from now, our ancestors will celebrate the day you graced the world with such an original post.
sheff71
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by scamrasc:
“end of the first big paragraph;

"And then there's this Nicole person. I don't think there exists (in a public figure), such a massive gulf between who she is and who she thinks she is. I believe she used to sing in the Pussy Cat Dolls, which in itself, should render her entirely unsuitable to comment on anyone else's musical talent. It's like asking a cat to be on the Nobel prize committee. She also appears to have a personality which consists of a handful of settings (including Faux-Emotion, Faux-Enthusiasm, hyper narcissism, and industrial strength vanity), all of them nauseating to a quite worrying degree."

i don't think there's ever been a judge loved as much and held up to such levels on the DS forums as what nicole is. a lot of posters here seem to hail her as the saviour and goddess of x factor.”

Is Nicole that loved on DS? Don't think she's much good as a judge, and can be pretty annoying... though not as much as Sharon - her who makes out how hard she is and she makes all the tough decisions, and then when it came to the final act at Boot Camp, tried to deflect away criticism of herself by getting the other judges to say who they think she should ditch...

Next series, if Cowell can't be bothered to come back on, then he should do the decent thing and put it out of it's misery, particularly as Louis is jumping ship. There's barely an act in that last 24 that are any better than competent - must be one of the worst selections of 'talent' in the show's history.

Having see a little of the US XF, the quality on there makes this lot look worse than Vic Reeves Pub Singer...
U96
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by oathy:
“The old boot camp might have been predictable but it was better than this mix off Tears and Bollocks.

Crying at the start of performing that's a new one.
"We sacrificed everything for this" a group member said only losing out to another lot.
what? Saturday night gig down the pub?

I swear if one more person mentions a child..here's a better idea get down to the local college get some Qualifications and there wont be a need to try and win a talent show.

This is totally what Xfactor didn't need. it was bad enough bloody Barlow back this entire weekend has been just soaked in Fake emotion there was nothing new or revamped about this it was more of the same with big huge dollops of BS for added effect.”

'Tears and bollocks'.
U96
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Pilotofthestorm:
“Well the Romans used to throw Christians to the lions for entertainment, fast forward 2000 years and it would appear that nothing much has changed....”

Very true.
I think the seats thing is just plain hideous.I couldn't believe it when I saw that last night.It was like musical chairs.The camera zooming in to capture the devestation on the faces of the doomed!.
What next?.Dressing the contestants as Gladiators and the judges giving the thumbs up or thumbs down?.
Convict
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Gnome_Foam:
“I would normally rather watch my own mother take a shower than watch the X factor, but for some inexplicable reason I found myself watching most of last night's episode. I really wish I hadn't.

I realise my sentiments will be nothing new but I just felt like I had to vent somewhere as it did (I'm sad to admit) make me quite angry.

For starters, who the hell ARE these judges?? Quite what Sharon Osborne knows about music, and what makes a song great is absolutely beyond me. Yet she sits there expressing all the authority of someone who invented music. And sound. And everything else that exists. The woman's an egotistical, witless, moron who knows nothing. About anything.
Same goes for Louis Walsh. Is there anyone in the public eye (outside of politics) who exhibits less wit and real knowledge of his chosen subject than this Cretin? I have an airing cupboard that knows more about music than this idiot.
Of the four, Gary Barlow is the ONLY one who has any business judging musical ability. I'd NEVER (even in an emergency) listen to his music, but I can at least acknowledge that he's a capable songwriter, so from that point of view he could be said to have some authority on the subject of musical ability.
And then there's this Nicole person. I don't think there exists (in a public figure), such a massive gulf between who she is and who she thinks she is. I believe she used to sing in the Pussy Cat Dolls, which in itself, should render her entirely unsuitable to comment on anyone else's musical talent. It's like asking a cat to be on the Nobel prize committee. She also appears to have a personality which consists of a handful of settings (including Faux-Emotion, Faux-Enthusiasm, hyper narcissism, and industrial strength vanity), all of them nauseating to a quite worrying degree.

The show itself is STILL massively dependent on sob stories and massively exaggerated emotion, all of which is pumped up to 11 by the ever willing judges (and contestants) - one mention of some guy's kid was enough to send him into tears. What the hell was the story there?? Was his kid born with no arms, legs or head? Or body? I suspect not. Where was the booing? Or are people REALLY that stupid to see what's going on?
And then we have Louis chiming in with one of his 7 sentences that he knows how to say - "How much does this mean to you?". For F*CK'S SAKE!! As if any of the deluded wannabes are going to shrug their shoulders and mumble, "Meh, not much, really".
Then there's the classic "I've made my decision" after which it still takes 20 seconds of "tension" before the big reveal, like the judge who said it had crashed and had to be reset by one of the production crew.
I also noticed the show has a new method of exploiting/humiliating the contestants - by picking them for the next round then ditching them because someone sang better than them. 1) Why not just get more chairs to sit on, and 2) to make it more humiliating, why not have one of the production staff on hand to actually pull the seat from under them as they're about to sit on it - thus indicating they're really getting binned?

This entire show exists entirely as a money making scam. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with music, or talent or genuinely doing something good in this horrible, cruel world we live in. It's about cynically exploiting everyone from the audience to the contestants.
And, from a personal viewpoint, as someone who adores music (listening to, and writing/recording) and loves good, thoughtful, ENTERTAINING TV, this programme is everything that's wrong in the world. It not only encourages laziness (by giving the impression fame is merely an audition away - no hard work required) but it actually discourages originality by relying on the same old tired musical clichés.

The sooner it's dead and gone, the sooner it can be replaced by some other mindless, turgid crap (which entertainment doesn't HAVE to be) ”

Much of what you may be true but who cares??! The beauty of living in a free country is that those of us who like X factor can watch it and those who don't can do something else. You spent a lot of time writing a long post about the things you don't like. Can I suggest you expend that same effort and passion on something you DO like!!
ladyloulou
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by abcd:
“Surely im not the only one who couldnt be arsed to read past the first sentence”

then you missed a treat, it sums up exactly what the show is all about. Which to summarise for you to save you reading it goes as follows

Capitalises on people dreams and miserable back stories to make Simon Cowell even richer.
istersay
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Gnome_Foam:
“I would normally rather watch my own mother take a shower than watch the X factor, but for some inexplicable reason I found myself watching most of last night's episode. I really wish I hadn't.

I realise my sentiments will be nothing new but I just felt like I had to vent somewhere as it did (I'm sad to admit) make me quite angry.

For starters, who the hell ARE these judges?? Quite what Sharon Osborne knows about music, and what makes a song great is absolutely beyond me. Yet she sits there expressing all the authority of someone who invented music. And sound. And everything else that exists. The woman's an egotistical, witless, moron who knows nothing. About anything.
Same goes for Louis Walsh. Is there anyone in the public eye (outside of politics) who exhibits less wit and real knowledge of his chosen subject than this Cretin? I have an airing cupboard that knows more about music than this idiot.
Of the four, Gary Barlow is the ONLY one who has any business judging musical ability. I'd NEVER (even in an emergency) listen to his music, but I can at least acknowledge that he's a capable songwriter, so from that point of view he could be said to have some authority on the subject of musical ability.
And then there's this Nicole person. I don't think there exists (in a public figure), such a massive gulf between who she is and who she thinks she is. I believe she used to sing in the Pussy Cat Dolls, which in itself, should render her entirely unsuitable to comment on anyone else's musical talent. It's like asking a cat to be on the Nobel prize committee. She also appears to have a personality which consists of a handful of settings (including Faux-Emotion, Faux-Enthusiasm, hyper narcissism, and industrial strength vanity), all of them nauseating to a quite worrying degree.

The show itself is STILL massively dependent on sob stories and massively exaggerated emotion, all of which is pumped up to 11 by the ever willing judges (and contestants) - one mention of some guy's kid was enough to send him into tears. What the hell was the story there?? Was his kid born with no arms, legs or head? Or body? I suspect not. Where was the booing? Or are people REALLY that stupid to see what's going on?
And then we have Louis chiming in with one of his 7 sentences that he knows how to say - "How much does this mean to you?". For F*CK'S SAKE!! As if any of the deluded wannabes are going to shrug their shoulders and mumble, "Meh, not much, really".
Then there's the classic "I've made my decision" after which it still takes 20 seconds of "tension" before the big reveal, like the judge who said it had crashed and had to be reset by one of the production crew.
I also noticed the show has a new method of exploiting/humiliating the contestants - by picking them for the next round then ditching them because someone sang better than them. 1) Why not just get more chairs to sit on, and 2) to make it more humiliating, why not have one of the production staff on hand to actually pull the seat from under them as they're about to sit on it - thus indicating they're really getting binned?

This entire show exists entirely as a money making scam. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with music, or talent or genuinely doing something good in this horrible, cruel world we live in. It's about cynically exploiting everyone from the audience to the contestants.
And, from a personal viewpoint, as someone who adores music (listening to, and writing/recording) and loves good, thoughtful, ENTERTAINING TV, this programme is everything that's wrong in the world. It not only encourages laziness (by giving the impression fame is merely an audition away - no hard work required) but it actually discourages originality by relying on the same old tired musical clichés.

The sooner it's dead and gone, the sooner it can be replaced by some other mindless, turgid crap (which entertainment doesn't HAVE to be) ”

I'm guessing you don't own a remote control, or you could have changed the channel.
InsomniacParade
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by ladyloulou:
“then you missed a treat, it sums up exactly what the show is all about. Which to summarise for you to save you reading it goes as follows

Capitalises on people dreams and miserable back stories to make Simon Cowell even richer.”

A show on a commercial TV channel is made to make money?

My world has just been shaken
U96
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by InsomniacParade:
“Thousands of years from now, our ancestors will celebrate the day you graced the world with such an original post.”

I agree with most of it.It's becoming more and more like a pantomime with every passing year.
They're actually forcing the contestants to become performing monkeys,changing the way they sing the songs.'I demand an over the top performance or your out,tears before and after will also help'.
hippy88
29-09-2013
oops forgot to put quote
Last edited by hippy88 : 29-09-2013 at 22:48
hippy88
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by Howardessex:
“I cant stand her . She just said , and I quote " never in my entire career " . What career would that be ??. Didn't know he had a career ?. She is a wife of a washed up 70 s rockstar and has never actually done any tying her self .”

washed up, really? Maybe because what Ozzy does isn't on your radar you don't know. Ozzy and Sabbath are in the middle of a sell out tour filling stadiums and arenas all over the world. They have headlined some of the biggest festivals in the world in the last few years and their latest album which came out this year went to number 1 in 8 countries and reached top 10 in 22 countries. If that is what you call washed up I would love to be washed up!
BROXI BEAR
29-09-2013
I have no idea why people who hate the show, still watch it and still come on the X Factor forum an moan about it
sutie
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by U96:
“ Very true.
I think the seats thing is just plain hideous.I couldn't believe it when I saw that last night.It was like musical chairs.The camera zooming in to capture the devestation on the faces of the doomed!.
What next?.Dressing the contestants as Gladiators and the judges giving the thumbs up or thumbs down?.”



Maybe they'll have the contestants actually fighting each other for their place on the chair. Nothing would surprise me anymore. I had a sore throat shouting at the tv on Saturday night. Hideous stuff
sutie
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by BROXI BEAR:
“I have no idea why people who hate the show, still watch it and still come on the X Factor forum an moan about it”


I can only speak for myself. I used to love the show, but so much has changed for the worst, and I find it such a shame to ruin what was a good idea for a show.
U96
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by BROXI BEAR:
“I have no idea why people who hate the show, still watch it and still come on the X Factor forum an moan about it”

It's all about the balance Broxi.Hoopy says hello.
U96
29-09-2013
Originally Posted by sutie:
“Maybe they'll have the contestants actually fighting each other for their place on the chair. Nothing would surprise me anymore. I had a sore throat shouting at the tv on Saturday night. Hideous stuff ”

I'm all for entertainment but this idea is taking it too far.
What do they want,a dreams dashed suicide to improve the ratings?.
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