"This entire show exists entirely as a money making scam. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with music, or talent or genuinely doing something good in this horrible, cruel world we live in. It's about cynically exploiting everyone from the audience to the contestants."

Well said..

As has been said many times, but it bears repeating, this show has long since ceased to be any sort of singing competition.

This is one of the reasons why I watch the Peter Kay piss take every year, because it's absolutely on the money from start to finish.

I totally agree with your assessment of Sharon Osbourne.
When she was on the show way back, she never won it.
And, she made the most inane comment I think I've ever heard from a "judge," at Steve Brookstein accusing him of not being able to sing soul because he wasn't "black."
It beggars belief..

However, I've enjoyed the series, up to this point, largely because there are some seriously talented entries again this year and we're mercifully short of the sort of nonsense we had last year with the participation of Rylan.

But, this 3 hour, naff in the extreme, exercise in trying to ratchet up the tension was beyond dire..

1. It reminded me of the sort of atmosphere you might expect in a Roman Gladitorial contest with the crowd alternately cheering, knee jerk booing, or baying for blood.
God knows what sort of effect that had on the contestants.

2. Gary Barlow, who I very much admire as a song writer claims he's "all about the singing/voice/whatever," puts through a manufactured "girl group," on the basis of a pretty dreadful audition and kicks out a group of guys who really can sing as a unit and a duo who barely sang a single line of vocal harmony.

3. The yodeller was very cute, admittedly, which is usually enough for Louis Walsh, but they seemed to express surprise that he'd yodelled along to "Respect," when he'd done it throughout the competition..why let him past the first round, if not for the "novelty," factor.
Osbourne, obviously thought it was OK for him to yodel to One Direction, but not to Aretha Franklin.. ;O)

I'm sure in past series that the boot camp involved the sing off but then the judges deciding, in private, who would go through to the judges houses, instead of putting through this business of letting them think they were in the top 6 and then trashing their dreams in public.

But, in the end, I suppose, these people put themselves up for their 15 minutes and hopefully more, so, perhaps they have nobody but themselves to blame.

But, for damn sure, this aint no singing contest, it's a farce.

I'll bet a pound to a penny that the "new," girl group gets through to the top 3, regardless of how well the other groups, who've worked their asses off in preparation do..

But then, that's happened before and look what that's given us..the "phenomenon," that is One Direction..

They were really "all about the singing," Mr Barlow.

Rich.
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HEAR HEAR !

Ozzy as a solo artist and as the frontman for Black Sabbath, has been at the top of the tree since the late 60s. The band were the pioneers of Heavy Metal, which is arguably one of the longest surviving genres of music in the modern era barring Pop & Classical. It continues to maintain it's popularity and will more than likely oulive most other current and future fads for many generations.

IMO X-Factor is music for people with no attention span and is Andy Warhols prophesy manifest. True lasting talent very rarely gets discovered via this type of media. Granted there are exceptions (Tom Jones springs to mind). Most true talent is sought out and signed up by record company A & R men.

You mean our decendants. Other than that, your reply is funny.

They should have Iron Maiden on as guests.
Singing 'Bring your daughter/(son) to the slaughter'.

:yawn: How original: telling someone not to have an opinion you can't handle.

How about those girls that they said they would put through if they ditched their friend to be a solo contestant. . Only to put them together in a group. Is so scummy it's laughable

But....she's got to do it for her "little girl!".......

Let's hope she doesn't go the way of the young woman who ditched her "friends," (who now aren't talking to her) only to be ditched herself and not make it through..

Talk about "shattering lives!"



However, I think it's a pretty certain bet, that, no matter how badly they perform at Mr Barlow's house, they'll get through because he'll "see the potential," but they'll have to "work, really hard."

Altogether: "Yes we will Gary, we promise."

Rich.
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I started watching xfactor uk, us, aus, three years ago and was immediately hooked. I love seeing regular people like Olly Murs or Janet Devlin walk off the street and wow them.

Unfortunately, of all the episodes I watched take place on three different continents, The X Factor UK S10E10 was by far the absolute worse show of all of them. What the show did was tantamount to throwing it's contestant's to the lions.


Well said. She's a talentless snake in the grass.


Never heard of him until I watched this show. He's an uninteresting broken record, "We're working hard."


Another Brit I never knew of until this show. Yet after learning of his background as a prolific song writer and solid performer, and watching him on the factor I decided I like this musician and respect his opinions. Though I agree about his genre of music, not my cup of tea.


I give her props for being successful in the industry. Up until she unseated three of the contestant's and replaced them, I thought she was cool. I know she was just doing her job by following the script, but what she did to those young women was not right.

I pretty much agree with your observations about the judges and the show. The key word being "show."

One thing I never understand is how so many people get worked up over a <pause> entertainment television show.

Another thing that makes me laugh are the contestants who burst into tears when they are dismissed. 90% of them never took a signing lesson yet they bawl over being rejected from a job interview that requires them to sing well.

This is one aspect of the show that offered scary insights into my fellow humans. Are there really that many deluded people walking the earth?

My friend, you hit the nail right on the head.

It's TV...it's entertainment, certainly not something to get riled up about. :lol

This is the EXACT thought that came to my mind as I witnessed this episode.

All that was missing were snarling lions.

Quite, the last time I ever got close to taking the whole shebang seriously was during the season when Lucie Jones was booted off by Mr Consitency himself, Simon Cowell, in favour of Jedward, an act he'd been lambasting for weeks.

Any remaining illusions I had that this was a serious singing contest were gone, at that point..

Everything and I mean everything that happens, from start to finish, with this show is all about Simon Cowell and his cronies making pots and pots of money..
Any "careers," made out of it by those who participate is an added bonus on their part..

Anyone who comes into it expecting to be long term global superstars, or who think it's a fast-track to being a legend is seriously deluded..

But, if they want their few years in the sunshine, then good luck to them.

Rich.
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TOTALLY AGREE. Its rubbish and that chair thing I only caught up about it on This Morning, its a joke.

I havent watched it for 3 years now.

haha brilliant - i think you may need a lie down after that. agree with much of it and before anyone mentions ahhh but sharon managed ozzie, please don't. nicole, is perhaps the one worthy of most attention however - vaccuous doesnt scratch the surface

"and before anyone mentions ahhh but sharon managed ozzie,"

Well, got knows someone needed to.

I don't think he was in much of a state to manage himself during much of the 80s and 90s....

With Walsh and Osbourne on the "judging," panel, at least we'll presumably be spared the "spectacle," of the judges singing with their charges, at some stage..

Rich.
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Baring watching my own mother take a shower, OP is spot on.

The show has been a joke for years now, and just gets worse every year. Its a total fix from day one.

I actually sat there with my other half and some mates ( on recorded i might add, we was not having an x factor night in :P) and we all got the contestants right. We could read it like a book. It does not take a genuis to work out who the judges picked, and who they got rid off. Especially as the ones who were picked were the ones who had all the coverage.

But there is still thousands if not millions of people out there who still think its a great show and just do not GET the whole concept is a fixed up, money making, ratings programme, and no real bother about the actual music involved. Because people still watch it, it will still get commissioned year after year, let the ratings drop and hopefully it will get axed, but probally only to be replaced by more drivel as itv just cannot seem to get saturday night tv right.

I quite like the idea of contestants fighting for their chair.

They could leave a few pool cues and other weapons hidden around the stage.

It would really get the crowd going.......

I thinking people have been predicting its demise for years and I think, finally, the end might be in sight.

This years "changes," are all part of a package designed to keep the ship afloat, given that last year there was much concern from the Cowell camp, I believe about falling ratings and the "trump card," that is Sharon Osbourne has been played..

However, I think many agree, that she's just as banal and pointless as ever, which will be further highlighted in the live shows, when she won't have the slightest idea what to give her charges to sing, let alone make half decent judgments on people's singing ability..

We'll find out soon enough, as Strictly is already up and running, I'm expecting the headlines to start rolling off the press in a few weeks, when finally the penny drops and they realize that they haven't managed to rescue it.

Rich.
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I don't know. I think there's life in the old dog yet.

Strictly pitches at a different age group. X factor is all about the charts now - hence ditching acts like Next of Kin and Tenors of Rock. Strictly is for olders and kids.

Unless someone comes along with something to take it's place it'll keep plodding on.

Is the charts even relevant now!!!

Its not as if The X Factor lot have much success in the charts.

hope you don't write the lyrics

Good to know I'm not entirely alone. Obviously not everyone was going to agree with me, but it is interesting that the people who disagree with me haven't put together the greatest defence of the show. EG:

And I'm still confused by this odd ending to an otherwise faultless retort...

Do you know something I don't?

With all due respect, I do not see a reason for anyone to defend this g-rated TV show, or any other family oriented TV show.

have to agree with all you've said...there's not much to add to it actually.

It's sad cos the idea of a talent show could be a good one but everything is wrong with the XF. It's not even watchable as light entertainment anymore, the exaggerated fake emotion ruins that idea.

This thread is driving me mad - why do so many posters have to quote the OP's entire post in their replies instead of just the relevant bits? It's really annoying to have to scroll for miles down the thread just to read the comments.