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Old 01-10-2013, 18:56
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbOEknbi4gQ

Here we go! Can't wait for this - it looks like it's going to be just as good as the first.
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Old 01-10-2013, 19:13
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Looks like a continuation of Peter's misguided attempt to adapt what is essentially a fairy story, certainly in comparison to the historical fantasy that the Lord of the Rings was intended to be.

Too many nods to the trilogy and the addition of material that doesn't really belong in an adaptation of The Hobbit as it is, not the 1960 Hobbit rewrite that Tolkien decided against writing.

Having said that, it's nice to see Middle-earth again.
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Old 01-10-2013, 20:58
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Looks like a continuation of Peter's misguided attempt to adapt what is essentially a fairy story, certainly in comparison to the historical fantasy that the Lord of the Rings was intended to be.

Too many nods to the trilogy and the addition of material that doesn't really belong in an adaptation of The Hobbit as it is, not the 1960 Hobbit rewrite that Tolkien decided against writing.

Having said that, it's nice to see Middle-earth again.
Historical fantasy? Im not sure about that.

However the continuing inclusion of trilogy characters who were not in The Hobbit and the endless milking of the LOTR trilogy coupled with side stories and random baseless exposition is annoying.

But yes, it will be nice to see more of ME
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:00
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What I don't get is people being against seeing more of this world. Tauriel exists because Tolkien wrote zero female characters in The Hobbit. I am glad she has been created and that the Elves have their own story.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:48
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What I don't get is people being against seeing more of this world. Tauriel exists because Tolkien wrote zero female characters in The Hobbit. I am glad she has been created and that the Elves have their own story.
He didn't write zero female characters,he just didn't have them in the foreground.
off the top of my head there is
in LOTR Goldberry,Galadriel,Eowyn,Rosie

In the back history there is Luthien,Morwen,Niener

Ps i'm not against seeing the Hobbit in LOTR style,bring it on
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Old 02-10-2013, 14:46
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I won't be paying a premium to see the second one at the cinema, anyway. The first one had far too much padding for my tastes.
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Old 02-10-2013, 15:29
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He didn't write zero female characters,he just didn't have them in the foreground.
off the top of my head there is
in LOTR Goldberry,Galadriel,Eowyn,Rosie

In the back history there is Luthien,Morwen,Niener

Ps i'm not against seeing the Hobbit in LOTR style,bring it on
You forgot Arwen

I think he means The Hobbit and im pretty sure there isn't a single female main character in the book.

However, the story is about a group of dwarves reclaiming their home, im not sure why its necessary to have any female characters but there you go.

I don't object to the inclusion of a female character as such, more that it just adds to the padding of the story. Im more annoyed by their need to bring characters like Legolas and Galadriel into the films when neither was in The Hobbit.
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Old 02-10-2013, 15:41
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbOEknbi4gQ

Here we go! Can't wait for this - it looks like it's going to be just as good as the first.
I hope not. I hope it's better.
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Old 02-10-2013, 15:45
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You forgot Arwen

I think he means The Hobbit and im pretty sure there isn't a single female main character in the book.

However, the story is about a group of dwarves reclaiming their home, im not sure why its necessary to have any female characters but there you go.

I don't object to the inclusion of a female character as such, more that it just adds to the padding of the story. Im more annoyed by their need to bring characters like Legolas and Galadriel into the films when neither was in The Hobbit.
oh yeah it did occur to me afterwards they meant the Hobbit

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Old 03-10-2013, 10:06
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The first Hobbit was Quality!!

The trailer to the second one looks Awesome!!!

I'm looking forward to watching this one.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:27
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A perfectly good childrens book,made into what looks to be three god awful,over the top,'throw in the kitchen sink too' type of hype that we get nowadays.I blame the punters for supporting this crap!
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:43
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A perfectly good childrens book,made into what looks to be three god awful,over the top,'throw in the kitchen sink too' type of hype that we get nowadays.I blame the punters for supporting this crap!
Im afraid when all is said and done we know Middle Earth will look awesome and we get to see some more of it.....that's enough for many people to go watch it.....I know it is for me
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:56
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It will be nice to see more of ME and Tolkeins world but I think 3 3 hour films from 1 short book is too much. 1 would have been enough but 3!
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Old 04-10-2013, 16:27
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It probably is a bit much trying to stretch a fairly short book into 3 films.

What format do people plan on watching it in, by the way? Bog standard 2D, Real 3D, IMAX 3D or the full fat IMAX 3D HFR(high frame rate)? Does the HFR add anything to it?
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Old 04-10-2013, 19:48
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Urgh... that's not a hint at a love interest for Legolas is it?

When I saw the Fellowship I immediately wanted to watch it again. I've seen The Hobbit once and honestly I'm not bothered about seeing it again. There's something missing compared to the trilogy.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:12
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It probably is a bit much trying to stretch a fairly short book into 3 films.

What format do people plan on watching it in, by the way? Bog standard 2D, Real 3D, IMAX 3D or the full fat IMAX 3D HFR(high frame rate)? Does the HFR add anything to it?
I saw the first Hobbit film in the full fat IMAX 3D and hated it. Any non-CGI scene such as those at the beginning inside the house looked distractingly like a movie set. The higher frame rate takes away a bit of the illusion and leaves you watching an actor acting rather than the character they are playing. Also the IMAX 3D was really making me feel a bit ill when it got to the scene where they dropped in to the Goblin underworld and were swarmed.

Next time I'm going for the 2D version. It was good enough for the LOTR.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:23
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Urgh... that's not a hint at a love interest for Legolas is it?

When I saw the Fellowship I immediately wanted to watch it again. I've seen The Hobbit once and honestly I'm not bothered about seeing it again. There's something missing compared to the trilogy.
It does look like it to me also, sub plot elven love thing to pad it out another 30 minutes.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:50
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There's something missing compared to the trilogy.
Indeed. Peter Jackson had a lot to prove with the original trilogy, which was quite a gamble at the time. It gave the enterprise a cetain vitality, and its success and impact helped usher in the new blockbuster era for the noughties. Tills ringing like never before - especially abroad. By comparison, this Hobbit era feels rather stale and calculated. And it's trading on the past.

But then Jackson is simply playing by the new rules now. Just as Disney, Marvel, DC, Potter and Star Wars are all branching out with cross-platform off-shoots and whatever. This is the new franchise mentality - a step beyond mere sequels. There was a good article a while back about how Jerry Bruckheimer has lost the plot because he can't quite get on the bus with this new way of things.

Doubtless Tolkein will be plundered again once this trilogy is over. I'm wondering though if Smaug may see a dip in takings, as Hobbit didn't seem to be as warmly embraced as LOTR. But then that was a different era.
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