Qualcomm, iphone 64 bit just a marketing gimmick!!

calico_pie · 14-10-2013, 10:01

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You argued for weeks to ensure apple were the good guys and the blame rested firmly on Amazon. It was funny though!!

Except I didn't really - all I really said there was a bit about how the book publishers were unhappy with their arrangement with Amazon.

That was factually correct - pointing that out isn't actually the same as either attributing blame or condoning the actions of either Apple or the publishers.

Given how many times you keep bringing this up, and the number of times I keep explaining that to you, is there a reason you keep saying that?

IvanIV · 14-10-2013, 10:31

People at Apple are such givers. They'd do anything to make publishers happy.

calico_pie · 14-10-2013, 10:39

I think its very naive to think they were doing it out of altruism.

IvanIV · 14-10-2013, 11:18

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I think its very naive to think they were doing it out of altruism.

There's always sarcasm.

calico_pie · 14-10-2013, 11:51

There is indeed sarcasm. Lots of sarcasm. Usually works better when someone has actually said as much though.

alanwarwic · 14-10-2013, 11:54

Looking at current trending fashion it would certainly appear that these are used as test bed for Samsung's 64 bit chip production.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04...p_speculation/

The new server battle is already becoming Atom versus ARM. When you consider that a server will contain up to 1440 of those same ARM CPU cores then you can see that Samsung will want to dominate that ARM server/ server supply market.

My thought is that 'Google TV' should become a home server too. It could even happen to Apple TV though the current trend is often to make them as functional as a brick.

Stiggles · 14-10-2013, 14:19

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Except I didn't really - all I really said there was a bit about how the book publishers were unhappy with their arrangement with Amazon.

That was factually correct - pointing that out isn't actually the same as either attributing blame or condoning the actions of either Apple or the publishers.

Given how many times you keep bringing this up, and the number of times I keep explaining that to you, is there a reason you keep saying that?

Except you did indeed argue this for weeks.

I bring it up because it was another situation you couldnt handle apple being caught out, and you did everything in your power to make apple look like the good guy. You can explain it as many times as you like. It makes no difference.

It might have been factually correct which we all knew anyway, but that wasn't the point. We were discussing what Apple did and how they were caught. Not Amazon!!

The one thing that does make me laugh about you, is how much you think you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

Stiggles · 14-10-2013, 14:26

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

You certainly butted in, in the sense that it was in the middle of an exchange between myself and someone else. Stating that you butted in is not the same as saying you are not allowed to butt in because it is after all a public forum where everyone is free to butt in whenever they like.

Oh, so now anyone who comments on any post is not butting in. Good to know......

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Oh come on! You know as well as anyone that Apple seems to generate far more column inches, and generate far more anti sentiment, a lot of which is any one of irrational, distorted or simply untrue.

Nonsense. If anything happens to any tech company now it generates headlines. Stop thinking its just apple for christ sake. Maybe they did years ago, but that's not the case now and you know it. You seem to still think apple is a special case here and frankly it's becoming very very boring. Between you and tdenson you trot that sentence out week after week.

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And yes - I asked about that, because you had a go at me for questioning the difference between an exclusivity clause and a bribe. Given that it absolutely was ridiculous, there was nothing imbecilic, pathetic or childish about it.

I never had a go at you at all about that!! I had a go because of that particular childish rant you keep throwing about.."oh must be because its apple.."

Rubbish.

calico_pie · 14-10-2013, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Oh, so now anyone who comments on any post is not butting in. Good to know......

Nonsense. If anything happens to any tech company now it generates headlines. Stop thinking its just apple for christ sake. Maybe they did years ago, but that's not the case now and you know it. You seem to still think apple is a special case here and frankly it's becoming very very boring. Between you and tdenson you trot that sentence out week after week.

I never had a go at you at all about that!! I had a go because of that particular childish rant you keep throwing about.."oh must be because its apple.."

Rubbish.

Roll your eyes all you like - if you want to analyse that phrase to the nth degree its up to you.

A lot gets written about a lot of companies, but I don't think quite so much nonsense gets written about many companies as much as gets written about Apple.

Childish rant now is it? All I said was this:

But hey! This is Apple, so it must be bribery.

Hardly a rant.

This is all nonsense anyway - rubbish like that gets posted, and I'm the one being childish?

calico_pie · 14-10-2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Except you did indeed argue this for weeks.

I bring it up because it was another situation you couldnt handle apple being caught out, and you did everything in your power to make apple look like the good guy. You can explain it as many times as you like. It makes no difference.

It might have been factually correct which we all knew anyway, but that wasn't the point. We were discussing what Apple did and how they were caught. Not Amazon!!

The one thing that does make me laugh about you, is how much you think you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

That's not my recollection.

My recollection is that a lot of that was about whether or not I'd actually blamed anyone, and not about whether or not Amazon were to blame.

The argument was not:

Me: Amazon are to blame!

Other: No - Amazon are not to blame.

It was:

Other: Why are you blaming Amazon?

Me: I'm not blaming Amazon.

calico_pie · 25-10-2013, 18:55

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Originally Posted by swordman

http://news.techworld.com/personal-t...omm-exec-says/

This one turned out to come back and bite you in the ass!

Roush · 25-10-2013, 22:22

I wonder if his new role "leading our exploration of certain enterprise related initiatives" will put him in charge of any of Qualcomm's 64-bit ARMv8 enterprise targeted products.

That would be extremely ironic

kidspud · 26-10-2013, 07:12

Good to see that Qualcomm recognised it for misguided propaganda and have done something about it.

Shame others cannot show the same humility.

Gormond · 26-10-2013, 10:27

It was always a stupid thing for Qualcomm to say, especially when they will likely have a 64 bit chip out next year.

The guy is lucky he wasn't sacked tbh.

14-10-2013, 10:01	#476
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles You argued for weeks to ensure apple were the good guys and the blame rested firmly on Amazon. It was funny though!! Except I didn't really - all I really said there was a bit about how the book publishers were unhappy with their arrangement with Amazon. That was factually correct - pointing that out isn't actually the same as either attributing blame or condoning the actions of either Apple or the publishers. Given how many times you keep bringing this up, and the number of times I keep explaining that to you, is there a reason you keep saying that?

14-10-2013, 10:31	#477
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	People at Apple are such givers. They'd do anything to make publishers happy.

14-10-2013, 10:39	#478
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	I think its very naive to think they were doing it out of altruism.

14-10-2013, 11:18	#479
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie I think its very naive to think they were doing it out of altruism. There's always sarcasm.

14-10-2013, 11:51	#480
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	There is indeed sarcasm. Lots of sarcasm. Usually works better when someone has actually said as much though.

14-10-2013, 11:54	#481
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Looking at current trending fashion it would certainly appear that these are used as test bed for Samsung's 64 bit chip production. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04...p_speculation/ The new server battle is already becoming Atom versus ARM. When you consider that a server will contain up to 1440 of those same ARM CPU cores then you can see that Samsung will want to dominate that ARM server/ server supply market. My thought is that 'Google TV' should become a home server too. It could even happen to Apple TV though the current trend is often to make them as functional as a brick.

14-10-2013, 14:19	#482
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Except I didn't really - all I really said there was a bit about how the book publishers were unhappy with their arrangement with Amazon. That was factually correct - pointing that out isn't actually the same as either attributing blame or condoning the actions of either Apple or the publishers. Given how many times you keep bringing this up, and the number of times I keep explaining that to you, is there a reason you keep saying that? Except you did indeed argue this for weeks. I bring it up because it was another situation you couldnt handle apple being caught out, and you did everything in your power to make apple look like the good guy. You can explain it as many times as you like. It makes no difference. It might have been factually correct which we all knew anyway, but that wasn't the point. We were discussing what Apple did and how they were caught. Not Amazon!! The one thing that does make me laugh about you, is how much you think you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

14-10-2013, 14:26	#483
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie You certainly butted in, in the sense that it was in the middle of an exchange between myself and someone else. Stating that you butted in is not the same as saying you are not allowed to butt in because it is after all a public forum where everyone is free to butt in whenever they like. Oh, so now anyone who comments on any post is not butting in. Good to know...... Quote: Oh come on! You know as well as anyone that Apple seems to generate far more column inches, and generate far more anti sentiment, a lot of which is any one of irrational, distorted or simply untrue. Nonsense. If anything happens to any tech company now it generates headlines. Stop thinking its just apple for christ sake. Maybe they did years ago, but that's not the case now and you know it. You seem to still think apple is a special case here and frankly it's becoming very very boring. Between you and tdenson you trot that sentence out week after week. Quote: And yes - I asked about that, because you had a go at me for questioning the difference between an exclusivity clause and a bribe. Given that it absolutely was ridiculous, there was nothing imbecilic, pathetic or childish about it. I never had a go at you at all about that!! I had a go because of that particular childish rant you keep throwing about.."oh must be because its apple.." Rubbish.

14-10-2013, 14:39	#484
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Oh, so now anyone who comments on any post is not butting in. Good to know...... Nonsense. If anything happens to any tech company now it generates headlines. Stop thinking its just apple for christ sake. Maybe they did years ago, but that's not the case now and you know it. You seem to still think apple is a special case here and frankly it's becoming very very boring. Between you and tdenson you trot that sentence out week after week. I never had a go at you at all about that!! I had a go because of that particular childish rant you keep throwing about.."oh must be because its apple.." Rubbish. Roll your eyes all you like - if you want to analyse that phrase to the nth degree its up to you. A lot gets written about a lot of companies, but I don't think quite so much nonsense gets written about many companies as much as gets written about Apple. Childish rant now is it? All I said was this: But hey! This is Apple, so it must be bribery. Hardly a rant. This is all nonsense anyway - rubbish like that gets posted, and I'm the one being childish?

14-10-2013, 14:42	#485
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Except you did indeed argue this for weeks. I bring it up because it was another situation you couldnt handle apple being caught out, and you did everything in your power to make apple look like the good guy. You can explain it as many times as you like. It makes no difference. It might have been factually correct which we all knew anyway, but that wasn't the point. We were discussing what Apple did and how they were caught. Not Amazon!! The one thing that does make me laugh about you, is how much you think you are correct and everyone else is wrong. That's not my recollection. My recollection is that a lot of that was about whether or not I'd actually blamed anyone, and not about whether or not Amazon were to blame. The argument was not: Me: Amazon are to blame! Other: No - Amazon are not to blame. It was: Other: Why are you blaming Amazon? Me: I'm not blaming Amazon.

25-10-2013, 18:55	#486
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman http://news.techworld.com/personal-t...omm-exec-says/ This one turned out to come back and bite you in the ass!

25-10-2013, 22:22	#487
Roush Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 2,938	I wonder if his new role "leading our exploration of certain enterprise related initiatives" will put him in charge of any of Qualcomm's 64-bit ARMv8 enterprise targeted products. That would be extremely ironic

26-10-2013, 07:12	#488
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Good to see that Qualcomm recognised it for misguided propaganda and have done something about it. Shame others cannot show the same humility.

26-10-2013, 10:27	#489
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	It was always a stupid thing for Qualcomm to say, especially when they will likely have a 64 bit chip out next year. The guy is lucky he wasn't sacked tbh.

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