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Old 03-10-2013, 16:28
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I think you are worrying to much over it and jumping the gun a bit

Your first interview will be to set out what you are going to do to look for work (what you are doing)
After this you will sign on every 2 weeks and show proof you have done this (also see an advisor every so often to look for work)

This will most probably go on like this for 12 months (if you show them you are capable yourself)

Nothing much to it here, apply for jobs, show you have and then walk away

After this time if you are still unemployed, then think about work program/work placements
it wont come to that long dont plan on sticking around for unemployed for 12months since i am looking for temp work so that i can save up and apply to teach english in japan (jet japan google it) so that i can escape this country and its system

thing is more likley i will get work myself as i get phone calls every few days with result so i can get a job within a few months
it wont come down to 12 months of no job
also i apply like 100 jobs a week and i never ever print out job emails or print job application

also i am be working for royal mail for xmas and volunteering at citzens adice soon enough anyway so i dont need to show evidence anyway of doiing this online to prevent from waisitng printer paper and ink
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:29
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it wont come to that long dont plan on sticking around for unemployed for 12months since i am looking for temp work so that i can save up and apply to teach english in japan (jet japan google it) so that i can escape this country and its system

thing is more likley i will get work myself as i get phone calls every few days with result so i can get a job within a few months
it wont come down to 12 months of no job
also i apply like 100 jobs a week and i never ever print out job emails or print job application

also i am be working for royal mail for xmas and volunteering at citzens adice soon enough anyway so i dont need to show evidence anyway of doiing this online to prevent from waisitng printer paper and ink
Umm, OK.

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Old 03-10-2013, 16:29
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so that i can save up and apply to teach english in japan (jet japan google it)
Way too obvious!
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:31
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it wont come to that long dont plan on sticking around for unemployed for 12months since i am looking for temp work so that i can save up and apply to teach english in japan (jet japan google it) so that i can escape this country and its system

thing is more likley i will get work myself as i get phone calls every few days with result so i can get a job within a few months
it wont come down to 12 months of no job
also i apply like 100 jobs a week and i never ever print out job emails or print job application

also i am be working for royal mail for xmas and volunteering at citzens adice soon enough anyway so i dont need to show evidence anyway of doiing this online to prevent from waisitng printer paper and ink
It's very easy and simple then

Attend interview and set out what you are going to do

Sign on every 2weeks and show proof you are doing this (usually six jobs/week, just write this on a piece of paper)

at xmas, sign off, tell them you have a job
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:31
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If you aren't prepared to show evidence of Jobseeking to claim Jobseeker's Allowance then fine, don't apply for it in the first place.

Do you seriously just expect them to give you JSA without you having to show evidence of jobseeking?, really?.
but i never ever have to print out job application forms or emails as i apply over to 100 jobs a week meaning a waste of paper and ink also is there a way of doing that manually or online if must

also i am planning to work for royal mail for xmas and volunteer at citzens advice soon enough anyway
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:33
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but i never ever have to print out job application forms or emails as i apply over to 100 jobs a week meaning a waste of paper and ink also is there a way of doing that manually or online if must

also i am planning to work for royal mail for xmas and volunteer at citzens advice soon enough anyway
FFS, I have already said.

It depends what websites you are using to apply for your jobs.

This is a bit like pulling teeth.
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Old 03-10-2013, 16:37
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If you find work yourself, then if it is full time work, you of course wont be referred to any of those programmes, as you will be working.

If however, the work is volunteering then you can only volunteer for up to 15 hours a week. 16 hours or more and they will class you as not having enough time to jobsearch, and you lose benefits normally. However, that is something to discuss with your adviser as they can sometimes allow some leeway.
I specifically asked my advisor about volunteering hours recently and was told I could do unlimited hours, it would not affect my claim.
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:08
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wel hopefully this willl be a tempory things as dont plan to claim for a long period of time or plan to be unemployed for long also back in june i was graduating getting my degree on stage now i am claiming JSA what the world has come to
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:10
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You don't have a degree.
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:27
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You don't have a degree.
yeah i do

few months back i was on stage collecting my degree now i am going to a job centre cliaming JSA what has this world come to
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:30
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:33
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It wasn't English
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:35
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:36
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:39
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:40
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You will work out and agree on a Jobseeker's Agreement with your adviser, which will contain:-

Three types of job that you want to apply for.
When you are willing to start work (ie Immediately).
Any days or hours you cannot work.
Any other work restrictions.
The websites you are going to regularly search for jobs on.
Where you will work (ie Within 90 minutes each way from home via public transport).


If you have long term illnesses or injuries (eg back problem) that might restrict the work you can do, it's best to tell them about it straight away.
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:48
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You will work out and agree on a Jobseeker's Agreement with your adviser, which will contain:-

Three types of job that you want to apply for.
When you are willing to start work (ie Immediately).
Any days or hours you cannot work.
Any other work restrictions.
The websites you are going to regularly search for jobs on.
Where you will work (ie Within 90 minutes each way from home via public transport).


If you have long term illnesses or injuries (eg back problem) that might restrict the work you can do, it's best to tell them about it straight away.
The following i can reply and hopefully acceptable also thansk for the help everyone

I am or can work at anytime or immediatley
days i cannot work will be weekend or may be fridays etc
in terms of work restriction no work restriction applies to me
website i will use will mainly be indeed.co.uk and sometimes company sites
in term if where i can work in the city of my home town or anywhere that is distance of a train station
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:52
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Entirely depends on your adviser. Some are certainly better then others. You HAVE to make sure you never lose your signing on card. Keep it safe and ALWAYS bring it with you. If you don't they might consider that an infraction and sanction you for it. Don't let the JC find anything to pull you on.

You will be asked to sign a Job seekers agreement with requirements you need to complete between signing on. Don't think this is unalterable. Agree to something reasonable depending on your circumstances and means to complete. If you find it too hard don't be afraid to speak to your adviser about altering the agreement if you struggle with the initial one.

The agreement should include three job roles/areas you would look at and what sort of activity you need to perform on a weekly basis. For me I agreed to 5 days a week to look on UJM and indeed and one day a week to look at my local paper. (The one I chose has an online site to save buying the paper itself)

If you are out of work for I think it's 3 months they will sign you onto a work program with an outside source. You will be signed onto the provider for 2 years. It's potluck whether you get a good or bad one.

For waiting times you will be given a set time every other week to sign on. Try and get there on time but be prepared for a loooooong wait. I would suggest a bottle of water as my local Job center is quite warm.

Ultimately it is a very dull process.

And something else
You CANNOT do a full-time course and sign on. Not allowed to.
You can do a part-time course and voluntary work but needs to be less then 16 hours a week.
They expect you to spend a minimum of 2 hours a day on job searching. If you're lucky. What they really want is for you to chain yourself to job search for the rest of your life on JSA
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Old 03-10-2013, 17:54
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Also, it's now mandatory to set up a Universal Jobmatch account on the gov.uk site. That'll also be one of the sites you're expected to search for jobs on.

EDIT Actually I have to search four sites weekly. gov.uk and Indeed five times each, and two other lesser sites three times each. I also have to write to one employer, phone one employer, and send off two speculative CVs. As well as ask friends etc. (but that's long dead).
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Old 03-10-2013, 18:07
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You don't need to waste ink and paper printing your job search you can record everything on your Universal Jobmatch account in the activity section.
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Old 03-10-2013, 18:19
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Entirely depends on your adviser. Some are certainly better then others. You HAVE to make sure you never lose your signing on card. Keep it safe and ALWAYS bring it with you. If you don't they might consider that an infraction and sanction you for it. Don't let the JC find anything to pull you on.

You will be asked to sign a Job seekers agreement with requirements you need to complete between signing on. Don't think this is unalterable. Agree to something reasonable depending on your circumstances and means to complete. If you find it too hard don't be afraid to speak to your adviser about altering the agreement if you struggle with the initial one.

The agreement should include three job roles/areas you would look at and what sort of activity you need to perform on a weekly basis. For me I agreed to 5 days a week to look on UJM and indeed and one day a week to look at my local paper. (The one I chose has an online site to save buying the paper itself)

If you are out of work for I think it's 3 months they will sign you onto a work program with an outside source. You will be signed onto the provider for 2 years. It's potluck whether you get a good or bad one.

For waiting times you will be given a set time every other week to sign on. Try and get there on time but be prepared for a loooooong wait. I would suggest a bottle of water as my local Job center is quite warm.

Ultimately it is a very dull process.

And something else
You CANNOT do a full-time course and sign on. Not allowed to.
You can do a part-time course and voluntary work but needs to be less then 16 hours a week.
They expect you to spend a minimum of 2 hours a day on job searching. If you're lucky. What they really want is for you to chain yourself to job search for the rest of your life on JSA
thanks for the advice also can just state that i just spend online looking for work and also state that I can independatly look for work my self

also can I say that i am getting work soon as i am going to volunteer at ciztens advice beureua and working for royal mail over xmas as well
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Old 03-10-2013, 18:19
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Also, it's now mandatory to set up a Universal Jobmatch account on the gov.uk site. That'll also be one of the sites you're expected to search for jobs on.

EDIT Actually I have to search four sites weekly. gov.uk and Indeed five times each, and two other lesser sites three times each. I also have to write to one employer, phone one employer, and send off two speculative CVs. As well as ask friends etc. (but that's long dead).
do u have to say u look for job other than online sources or just look online only
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Old 03-10-2013, 21:08
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Have you been offered a job with the Royal Mail?
Your volunteering for "ciztens advice beureua" might not get off to a good start, have you got your start date yet and your name down for the training?
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Old 03-10-2013, 21:21
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do u have to say u look for job other than online sources or just look online only
Unless it's changed, you have to do three things to look for work.
Looking online is only one
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Old 03-10-2013, 21:26
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Unless it's changed, you have to do three things to look for work.
Looking online is only one
I have three things to do on my agreement.
Two different online sites and a newspaper
They counted individually.
Although I have done more.
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