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Old 04-10-2013, 08:15
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Is anyone else getting this today ?

I'm looking forward to driving the classic f1 cars
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:26
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Hopefully mine will turn up today, amazon posted it yesterday dinnertime.

cant wait to finish work and hit brands hatch and imola in a classic Williams!
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:17
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Hi started playing the game, but cant get passed the second test of the young drivers test, i go along and hit the 3 blue apex boxes as told, and accerlrate, but half way down hte straight about the half way point, i get told youve a tyre blowout.

What can i do to stop that
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:21
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Hi started playing the game, but cant get passed the second test of the young drivers test, i go along and hit the 3 blue apex boxes as told, and accerlrate, but half way down hte straight about the half way point, i get told youve a tyre blowout.

What can i do to stop that
dunno, speed too much, possibly?
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:23
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dunno, speed too much, possibly?
It says accerlrate to 185mph which i have been doing, and then it says stop in designated area. but it always seems to crash at same point
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Old 04-10-2013, 13:09
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Its arrived
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Old 04-10-2013, 14:21
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Everywhere I'm looking just has the standard edition. Tried Game and HMV, nowhere has the bonus material 90's cars plus the extra classic tracks. Is it an online pre-order thing? Didn't really just want the standard edition.
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Old 04-10-2013, 14:55
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Hi started playing the game, but cant get passed the second test of the young drivers test, i go along and hit the 3 blue apex boxes as told, and accerlrate, but half way down hte straight about the half way point, i get told youve a tyre blowout.

What can i do to stop that
Does it ask you to use the flashback to restart the race before the tyre blowout.

It's just teaching you about flashbacks.

Once you do that the car will accelerate to the end without blowing the tyre.
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Old 04-10-2013, 15:43
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Everywhere I'm looking just has the standard edition. Tried Game and HMV, nowhere has the bonus material 90's cars plus the extra classic tracks. Is it an online pre-order thing? Didn't really just want the standard edition.
You can get the classics edition via steam.
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Old 04-10-2013, 17:47
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You can get the classics edition via steam.
Not if you want it on Ps3 or Xbox
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Old 04-10-2013, 18:11
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Tempted simply for Mansell
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Old 04-10-2013, 18:29
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Does it ask you to use the flashback to restart the race before the tyre blowout.

It's just teaching you about flashbacks.

Once you do that the car will accelerate to the end without blowing the tyre.
Yeah this is what happened in 2012. If you're not getting the flashback tutotial after the blowout then there's a glitch.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:32
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Yeah this is what happened in 2012. If you're not getting the flashback tutotial after the blowout then there's a glitch.
I know this was a known bug in f1 2012 but I dunno if it still happens in F1 2013.

Kinda liking it so far.
Nothing has yet jumped out at me as obviously flawed.
Haven't really played it enough to figure out if they've fixed the various timing shennanigans though.

Be particularly interested to see if they've modified the rain effects at all.
They were fine in F1 2010 and F1 2011 but then, for some reason, they redid them for F1 2012 and, after that, the rain and puddles barely show up on my PC.
It's as if the effects they use aren't recognised by my gfx card or summat.
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Old 06-10-2013, 18:43
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I'm PS+ member says u can download the trial but I can't see it anywhere where is it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 00:48
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Anybody know if there are any rumours or information about what extra DLC will be available?

Seems ridiculous that they've gone to the effort of cobbling together the "Classics" mode but then included cars such as, erm, the 1999 Williams FW21 (seriously, why?) and the 1988 Lotus 100T while ignoring such legendary cars as the McLaren MP4/4 or even, perhaps, one of Alonso or Schuey's Benettons.

Maybe McLaren wouldn't give CodeMasters the rights to use their old cars?
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:54
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Is this any good or I do have to wait for modders to fix the handling and AI again?

Anybody know if there are any rumours or information about what extra DLC will be available?

Seems ridiculous that they've gone to the effort of cobbling together the "Classics" mode but then included cars such as, erm, the 1999 Williams FW21 (seriously, why?) and the 1988 Lotus 100T while ignoring such legendary cars as the McLaren MP4/4 or even, perhaps, one of Alonso or Schuey's Benettons.

Maybe McLaren wouldn't give CodeMasters the rights to use their old cars?
Maybe they don't know what makes a classic, it's painfully obvious from the previous titles that they know precious little about the sport.
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Old 07-10-2013, 16:48
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Is this any good or I do have to wait for modders to fix the handling and AI again?
Bear in mind that I might be suffering with "new game rose-tinted glasses syndrome" but I think the AI is a little more aggressive/chaotic.

I've only done one proper race in F1 2013 so far and I was pleasantly surprised to see a bunch of AI cars get involved in a pile-up in turn 3 at Korea all by themselves.
It seems like, previously, the AIs would all trundle around by themselves in a very polite, well-mannered way unless the player messed with them so it was nice to see AI cars hitting each other and running wide, onto the run-off area, all by themselves.

I've also had AI cars run into the side of me in turns 4 & 5 at Korea too which was also refreshing (in a twisted sort of way) cos, again, it previously seemed like the AIs were programmed to just stay out of the player's way once you got alongside them.
And, to be clear, I'm talking about them running into me rather than me running into them.
I was trying to go around the outside of cars in turn 4 and the AIs would hit the apex properly and then run wide and bump me on the exit of the corners.

Also, related to the above, there were times when I took a tighter line through turn 4 which put me on the outside for turn 5 and I'd find AIs back up alongside me going into turn 5.

Seems like in F1 2012 the AI cars would just capitulate and fall in behind you as soon as you got up alongside them but in F1 2013 they do seem to try and defend and take back positions to some extent.

I really am wary that I'm just seeing things through rose-tinted glasses, though, cos it seems like CM have historically been more interested in adding eye-candy rather than improving the game mechanics but, so far, it really does seem like the AI's are a little more aggressive and a little more chaotic.
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Old 07-10-2013, 19:35
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Did anyone order from Gameseek over the weekend?
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Old 08-10-2013, 00:29
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Had a bit of a play with F1 2013, just to see what's what...

I picked the Bahrain circuit cos it's one that I seem t be pretty good at and then ran one race while driving a Caterham in order to see what the AI's got up to ahead of me and then another race while driving Webber's RBR to see if I could actually win.

I did this with F1 2012 and F1 2013, with all assists off and AI skill set to "legend".

F1 2012
Pole: Vettel
Pole Time: 1:32.624
Winner: Hamilton
Fastest lap: 1:34.772

My quali' (Caterham): 1:34.503
My quali' position (Caterham): 18th
My finishing position (Caterham): 6th
My fastest lap (Caterham): 135.040

My quali' (RBR): 1:30.143
My quali' position (RBR): 1st
My finishing position (RBR): 1st
My fastest lap (RBR): 132.266

F1 2013
Pole: Vettel
Pole Time: 1:32.324
Winner: Vettel
Fastest lap: 1:32.791

My quali' (Caterham): 1:34.348
My quali' position (Caterham): 12th
My finishing position (Caterham): 5th
My fastest lap (Caterham): 134.288

My quali' (RBR): 1:31.209
My quali' position (RBR): 1st
My finishing position (RBR): 3rd ()
My fastest lap (RBR): 132.673

Maybe worth noting, as well, that in the F1 2012 races all 24 cars finished both races whereas in F1 2013 2 cars failed to finish 1 race and 1 car failed to finish the other while 2 other cars made an extra pit-stop (presumably for repairs).
None of the retirements occurred as the result of an incident I was involved in.

Not sure what to make of those numbers.

First thing that leaps out at me is that, in F1 2013, Vettel put in a race lap that was within 0.5s of his quali' time.
That's pretty unrealistic, given that, in the real race, Vettel qualified in 1:32.584 and could only manage 1:36.961 in the race.

The other thing that was really obvious is that although I could go quick enough to get pole (in the RBR) I couldn't keep that pace up through the race in F1 2013.
The cars lose rear grip much more easily and after a few laps I just couldn't stay on the pace whereas in F1 2012 it's much easier to just romp home to the win.

It also certainly seemed like the following cars were more willing to have a go at overtaking in F1 2013 although I'm not sure if that's cos they're programmed differently or whether it's just because I was easier to attack cos my tyres were worn.

Interesting stuff (for an F1 nerd, at least) and it certainly seems like races in F1 2013 aren't quite as "plain sailing" as races in F1 2012 were.
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Old 08-10-2013, 00:31
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Maybe McLaren wouldn't give CodeMasters the rights to use their old cars?
Codemasters said there was licensing problems which prevented them getting a lot of the content they wanted & that this is something there working to resolve for future titles.


As to F1 2013, I've not had a chance to play it properly but I got to have a quick go at some time trials over the weekend & it felt like a massive improvement over 2012.

The handling felt more intuitive & Ihad a much better feel for the car through the wheel I was playing with (Driving Force GT) when compared to 2012.


Only negative was that once again it starts straght into the young driver test & forces you to go through all the same tutorials you went through last year before been able to start a career.
Its even more irritating on the PC when your thrown into it without been able to properly setup your graphics, wheel etc...
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:29
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As to F1 2013, I've not had a chance to play it properly but I got to have a quick go at some time trials over the weekend & it felt like a massive improvement over 2012.

The handling felt more intuitive & Ihad a much better feel for the car through the wheel I was playing with (Driving Force GT) when compared to 2012.


Only negative was that once again it starts straght into the young driver test & forces you to go through all the same tutorials you went through last year before been able to start a career.
Its even more irritating on the PC when your thrown into it without been able to properly setup your graphics, wheel etc...
S'funny but, when F1 2012 was released I seem to recall that every man and his dog was howling about how awful and sluggish the handling was.
At the time I tried to point out that it seemed like CM were simply trying to replicate the idea that you really need to get off the brakes before steering around a corner if you want the car to turn in sharply but people just moaned that it was crap.

So here we are in 2013 and the handling is really very similar to 2012. The rear end slides around a little more and the throttle is less forgiving (it's much easier to bog the engine down if you don't rev it enough) but, basically, if you can go fast in an F1 2012 car you'll probably be okay with an F1 2013 car.
And most people seem happy with that.

In fact, if you go back to playing F1 2010, the cars all feel like rocket-powered scalextric cars and don't seem to have any mass or inertia to them at all.

The test day seemed like a good idea when I first heard about it,seemed like it'd be a good way for newbies to get their feet wet.
Alas, it really is a tortuous affair and, as you say, the fact that the game dives right into it without giving you the chance to set up the controls or graphic options is terrible.

I bet there are PC racing wheels all over the world that have teethmarks in them as a result of players being forced to work through the test day.

I get that excelling at the test day gives you more choices when signing to a team for the full season but surely, instead, there could be an option where you can just do a test for an individual team and then be offered a seat (or not) on the basis of the result?

Also, if I'm being picky, I'm not keen on the menus either.
I don't like the way it's harder to tell what's highlighted and what's not and I don't like the way that stuff that was directly accessible from a menu now requires you to go into a sub-menu to select.

Still, on the plus side, they now grant players access to the "race director" function after the race, so you can review what other cars were doing after the race rather than having to pause the game and review it all just before you finish the race.

It's also nice that they've added a mid-session save-game function too.
Not got around to seeing if you can save a game mid-race yet though.

Given that this is an official FIA/FOM/F1 product, you'd think they'd have the rights to use the official FIA/F1 animated logo's and graphics for stuff like the grid positions, race timing and on-screen graphics for throttle/braking/revs/KERS/DRS too.
Shame they haven't incorporated that stuff.

And also, 4 years in and still no bloody telemetry data so you still can't make changes to stuff in the test session and review exactly what effect the changes have had.
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Old 08-10-2013, 14:43
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Given that this is an official FIA/FOM/F1 product, you'd think they'd have the rights to use the official FIA/F1 animated logo's and graphics for stuff like the grid positions, race timing and on-screen graphics for throttle/braking/revs/KERS/DRS too.
Shame they haven't incorporated that stuff.
Even stranger when you consider there using the old official graphics for the classic mode.

The 80's cars have the old Olivetti timing graphics & the 90s use the Tag Heuer graphics which were used on the F1 Digital+ PPV service from 1999-2002.
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Old 12-10-2013, 20:55
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I expect the FIA still own the rights to the Tag-Heuer & Olivetti graphics for use in F1 related promotional material, and I'm sure F1 2013 qualifies under that.

I'm only 3 hours in, but enjoying it. I have played all the previous games back to 2010, and this is evolutionary, not revolutionary. Reflections in the McLaren are very well done. Graphically, it's all very impressive.

I am looking forward to spanking Senna's ass in the Red 5 though!
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Old 12-10-2013, 22:18
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Just got round to giving this a go having had it sitting there for over a week and, I'm not the greatest at F1 games - I just wanna floor it all the time which obviously doesn't give you great results in an F1 car!

So I'm the guy who sticks all the assists on. It seems they've tweaked those heavily this year. They've defiantly made it more twitchy, handling seems too sensitive for me at times.

They've also reduced the traction control assist, found myself having to accelerate with a lot more care than previously.

It isn't too bad, and I've already adjusted accordingly, same goes for braking, it seems to make you do more of it than before.
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Old 12-10-2013, 22:22
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Seems like they've overdone the reflections a bit, on my gfx card, at least.

I keep seeing "reflections" of stuff like trees appearing on the grass and circuit.
They're only vague and, at first, I thought I was imagining it but they're not.

I was wondering if they were, perhaps, trying to simulate the view through a visor but they appear even when you're using one of the external views too.

In other news, I don't think they've fixed the timing this time around.
I'm still getting situations where I'll be setting fastest lap after fastest lap (and the race director screen confirms that I've been going, say, 1 second faster than the car in front) and yet the car in front remains the same time/distance in front of me.

I've also noticed that cars sometimes do the same number of laps on prime tyres as they do on options.
For example, I followed Vettel into the pits (about 10 seconds behind him) and had a set of option tyres fitted.
After leaving the pits I got the "The car in front is on the prime tyre so we have an advantage here" message (confirmed by the race director screen) and I started catching Vettel by a second a lap.
After 8 laps I was supposed to pit and, to my surprise, Vettel pitted right in front of me.
Seen this happen kind of thing happen quite a few times.
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