nothing wrong with that... it just has a high concentration of them in this particular show

It wasn't just the men that cried, all the women were as well. Why does it matter what gender they are ? Everyone has emotions, some people are just better at hiding it.

I don't think anyone's really saying men should never cry but seeing them cry because they're not going to be on the telly is pretty nauseating.

just for the record that goes for the women too

Guess what, women have just as much right as men to fart in public. I'm so glad they don't exercise it.

What the hell is wrong with this thread and some of the posters? Crying is not a female trait and never has been, it's just that men have had to repress their EQUALLY natural inclination to cry when they experience certain emotions. I'm glad we have reached the stage where men can cry in public without the majority of people questioning their manliness, sexual orientation or true gender.

Crying is something that men should grow out of. It's for women and babies.

That made me laugh seriously men have every right to cry but lets be honest, not at every little thing a woman can get away with. I've cried after having a bad haircut but I would be a disconcerted if my partner did the same thing

They were crying after singing. Giles started before the song ended. It was horrendous. Couldn't they at least wait until they were told the result? Did Louis and the others ramp up the pressure so much that they all fell apart? Watching it all I felt was a mix of mild amusement and mild derision.

They are probably only picked in the first place once the producers see that they are emotional wrecks at their first auditions. They won't have anyone on the show who will just shrug their shoulders and say 'oh well, never mind" if they don't get through. They need desperate people.

That one girl at bootcamp who said she didn't mind if she was told no was basically made out to be totally unacceptable, and that resulted in Nicole storming backstage and ranting at the others. It was a shame because that girl sounded good.

What is a real man? This is such a primitive idea that men and women have their roles. Men are the strong, emotionless heroes and the women are the meek, helpless ones who need to be rescued by their men. This is so stereotypical. Try saying this in an ad campaign. You'll get mauled by DM users.

Horribly primitive ideas...

Would you want a sobbing blubbering wreck of a man at your side at a time of crisis though? It's as if it has almost become unfashionable for men to be masculine.

The old-fashioned naivety in this thread is astounding.

Ideally, you wouldn't want anyone to be a wreck in a crisis; the highly contrived XF judges' houses is not the best place to assume how anyone would react. I know plenty of people who cry at some films etc. but when it comes to an emergency they are level-headed.

Agree 100%, couldn't have put it better myself.

Christ this thread sets women back decades!

You want equality and yet men must still be men and protect the weak little female.

How about you women who feel that way grow a backbone and look after yourselves?

Yes it became unfashionable when women wanted to and were given equality.

That mean that they are in total fact equal in every way to men.

With that equality comes the responsibility to stop playing the weak little female who needs the protection of a real man, card.

You can't have it both ways. You are either equal or a submissive wreck who requires a man to get you though every emotional tantrum you have.

You are saying that you can be as emotional as you want but men can't be and of course you want to be taken seriously and treated equal.

I'll stick with treating women equally and expect them to act like they are equal.

NO! I have only seen my husband cry once and that was when he took a phone call to say his Dad had died and he was only 60. Tears were running down his cheeks and he just said he was going to bed for a while, which he never ever does. He had about an hour on his own up there and came down and carried on.

Of course men can cry when they need to. Women, too. But frankly both sexes were completely OTT at the judges house and equally nauseating: the self pity seeping from their eyes was only matched by the histrionics oozing from their nose.

I do find it funny when a sprig of a person says 'this is the best/worst thing that's ever happened to me' - er, yes, because everything else comes under the headings of Being Born, Being Nappy Trained, Going to School, Going to School Somemore, A Few Holidays, and lots of TV. Jeesh.

So are all of the girls/women..

I've no problem at all with anyone of any gender expressing emotions and thankfully, we've moved away from the era when men were expected to keep a stiff upper lip, not show emotions and were often ridiculed by other men, including their fathers,if they did.

From time to time, I'm moved to cry for all sorts of reasons, mostly music and occasionally films etc.

However, this continual blubfest to which we're subjected on a weekly basis is way OTT,

It wasn't like this from either the men/boys, or women/girls in the first few series..

I can remember only one incident when someone cried, Steve Brookstein, in series one and that was the night before the final in Simon Cowell's house..when the pressure appeared to get too much for him, but it was brief and he tried to walk out of the room when it happened, so that it wouldn't be in front of the camera.

I think someone, somewhere along the way, thought that this sort of thing was "good T.V." and that they could milk the tears and they've been doing it, excessively ever since and, I agree, it's frankly, sickening..

I also agree, Paul would've been a great finalist.

There's all this talk about Wildcards, let's hope he makes it through via that route and then goes on to confound Louis Walsh, who should, but patently doesn't know better.

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They're only doing what the producers want them to do.

Last night's Cryathon was proof that all they want is tears & these contestants are so desperate that they will just go along with it.

I'm dreading the live shows when we'll start to get the unfolding of the sob stories to go with the endless crying that we now see on XF.

I can't believe Dermot asked a contestant 'why are you crying?' at one point
Surely it is only noteworthy if they aren't!!

Spot on Syntax.

It reminds me of something I remember seeing once in a movie, or T.V. show where they were trying to get this kid to cry as part of a scene and couldn't and then, just before filming, they told her that her dog had just died and she wept buckets..

Some of this lot obviously don't need that sort of "encouragment," but these scenes that we see aren't filmed in real time, so there must be plenty of time to set up the crying sessions..

Perhaps someone has plenty of chopped onions on hand....and....ACTION!



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There was an edit where Louis was telling one kid his news. Before the cut the kid was ok and after it he was weeping buckets. I just had this image of Louis punching him as hard as he could in the stomach just where the cut was.

No and I wouldn't want a sobbing blubbering wreck of a woman at my side in the time of crisis either..

Some of the strongest and most dependable leaders/bosses etc I've known have been women and some of the weakest and most ineffective have been men.
I can't remember any of them being particularly prone to sobbing and blubbing in a crisis..

Crying, when emotional, isn't the preserve of women..you see it often enough in countries where men are still supposed to be "men," where men will cry openly and not see it as a challenge to their masculinity.

Masculinity is a state of being, it doesn't depend for its existence on how often a man cries.

Crying isn't a "feminine," trait/activity.

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