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Old 06-10-2013, 11:07
5hane
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Hi

I still have a HiFi separates system which consists of a 20 year old Technics Class AAA amp, a 12 year old Misson CD player and some B&W 500 series speakers.
The thing is, it sounds great, but does look pretty old fashioned now.
So I'm hearing about how great Sonos is so decided to pop in to my local Apple shop to look at the range.
After a quick demo, my conclusion was, Sonos sucks. How did I ever think that one single speaker could compete with a HiFi. No chest thumping base and no stereo sound due to one speaker. Ok, you can add further speakers, but how in the hell can anyone justify £800 minimum for something that can only stream music and doesn't sound as good as my old fashioned HiFi which probably wouldn't fetch more than £200 on eBay.
Is it that clever marketing is fooling people into buying Sonos, or have I missed something?
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Old 06-10-2013, 23:33
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It's a different market. Sonos pushes multi-room as its big thing, streaming music from your digital source into any room that has a Sonos device. Flexibility too - each room can have its own stream or you can stream the same thing all over your house. Are you sure you heard its full capability? A colleague has it and raves about it and he's a real quality music afficianado.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:38
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Yep, sonos is all about multi-room. Its overkill for streaming to a single system but shines if you want music throughout the house. The units with built in speakers, such as the play 3 or 5, are ideal for secondary systems, for example, to give you something to listen to in the kitchen in place of a mini system. For a main system you can use the zp90 to feed separates.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:44
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Thanks guys. Very helpful answers!
Iím not planning on multi room.
Perhaps he didnít demonstrate the full potential, but I did wonder how the speaker would handle Slayer, not that I listen to them so much these days
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:53
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I have several Sonos components, including a ZP90 connected to an amplifier through which I stream radio and music from a NAS. I also have a REL Quake sub fitted so I have all the bass I need.

It's not as good as playing my vinyl records on a dedicated hifi but for making playlists, parties etc it's hard to beat. Also the smartphone controller app makes the expensive controllers pretty much redundant. I still buy CDs but rip them as soon as I get them and stick them in the cupboard (being a child of the vinyl era I still cling on to having something physical - I still hanker for proper bi-fold album covers)
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:59
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What is it you want to do ??

You can start by buying a NAS and storing your music on there. You can store the music in different formats & so a careful choice of what system you want to use.

I use a programme that stores in MP3 and Lossless at the same time to two different folders

The simplest way to stream is an ipod Touch/ iphone or Android phone with a free app called mediaconnect.

you either buy a docking station or a 3.5mm to 3.5mm wire for your headphones to Aux Input.

switch on a laptop , download the app and see how your phone will stream the music in STEREO for free.

NAS is the basis of your music & video storage.

Even better is the xbox/PS 3 , blu ray and tv will all play off it !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-10-2013, 15:05
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Thanks guys
I still like to buy CD's because I value the physical product more than an mp3 file, but I will also on occasion still download mp3's, be it on my PC or iTunes.
What I want to do is play my CD's and mp3's on one system, at a decent volume level and in stereo rather than through a single speaker in my living room.
It would be cool if I could somehow hook my iPad up to my TV or blue-ray player which has a built in 2.1 speakers as a temporary measure: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-SC...pr_product_top
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Old 09-10-2013, 15:09
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Are you saying an iPad does not even have a headphone out socket?
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:58
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Are you saying an iPad does not even have a headphone out socket?
Pretty sure it does, but I dont want to use headphones
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:13
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Pretty sure it does, but I dont want to use headphones
Just use a 3.5mm stereo jack to two phono plug adapter lead and plug the iPad into any stereo system with an AUX input.
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Old 10-10-2013, 23:24
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Just use a 3.5mm stereo jack to two phono plug adapter lead and plug the iPad into any stereo system with an AUX input.
Thanks. I didn't relise it would be that simple.
So no reason whatsoever to waste money replacing HiFi's.
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Old 11-10-2013, 13:45
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If you still want to keep your amp, you can still use Sonos if you like its serving/streaming facilities! You don't have to buy a Sonos speaker and amp, you can just get the Sonos Connect and plug it into your existing amp. There are also quite a few other similar media streaming devices, e.g. WD TV Live, but where Sonos shines is in the multiroom synchronisation.
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Old 11-10-2013, 14:43
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Thanks. I didn't relise it would be that simple.
So no reason whatsoever to waste money replacing HiFi's.
It is that simple, almost.

The main issue is that most things like a CD player or turntable have fixed output levels whereas a headphone output by it's very nature is variable. So you have to balance where you set the iPad volume and the amp volume controls to.

There are a number of different ways to do this. One is to set the amp volume control to about the same setting as you would have it on when listening to a CD or whatever. Set the iPad volume to minimum initially then plug it into the amp. Then turn up the volume on the iPad only (don't touch the amp volume) to get the "loudness" out of the speakers you normally listen at.

Ideally you don't want the amp volume control at 90-100% full as that probably means the iPad volume is too low and may have noise and hum at an unacceptable level. And you don't want the amp volume control below 20% either as that means the iPad volume is too high and may introduce unwanted distortion.

Bit of a balancing act but with care it is a perfectly acceptable way to get audio out of the iPad into a stereo system. Might not satisfy the outer fringes of the audiophile community though
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Old 11-10-2013, 14:47
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Generally you have to have the volume on the source turned right up, to get close to normal line levels - particularly since the crippling of 'Walkman' volume levels to prevent hearing damage.
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Old 15-10-2013, 15:04
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Thanks all, esp Chrisjr for the detailed explanation.

I now have the jack to aux cable.... It works a dream!
So simple. I was thinking I had to spend a bomb.

My HiFi will Carry on living into the new age
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