Back to gas cooker :(

noise747 · 06-10-2013, 16:02

My induction hob decided to go pop in a shower of sparks today. I know it is getting on, but still.

I am not getting another one yet, I will wait until next year, I will have to do with the gas cooker, still at least I have the steamer.

Shrike · 08-10-2013, 16:08

I prefer gas. Cook-cook-cookability! Thats the beauty of gas!!!

Welsh-lad · 11-10-2013, 04:28

Gas has become redundant.

Gas cookers used to trump ceramic hobs in terms of control etc, but since induction there's no competition.
Induction gives you the control of gas with the ease and cleanliness of ceramic.
It's like when gas ovens became second rate to fan ovens.

venusinflares · 11-10-2013, 19:44

I love my gas cooker (oven and hob) and don't believe it's redundant! The only thing I hate about it is that it's got an electric grill which doesn't have the same ease of control as the gas.

It's what people prefer, I prefer gas and wouldn't go electric through choice. The last electric (fan) oven we had used to burn everything, even following timings to the letter, and it used to burn things unevenly. Awful!

annette kurten · 12-10-2013, 07:23

i`d rather have gas.

orangebird · 12-10-2013, 08:21

How is ceramic any cleaner or easier than gas?!

Welsh-lad · 12-10-2013, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangebird

How is ceramic any cleaner or easier than gas?!

because there is a metal grid frame over the flame where fat and other spills spatter onto and get ingrained.

You then have to soak them every so often and also clean the metallic solid top underneath.
Induction cermaic = quick squirt of jiff kitchen cleaner, wipey-wipey and it's all sparkling and clean!

Welsh-lad · 12-10-2013, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by venusinflares

I love my gas cooker (oven and hob) and don't believe it's redundant! The only thing I hate about it is that it's got an electric grill which doesn't have the same ease of control as the gas.

It's what people prefer, I prefer gas and wouldn't go electric through choice. The last electric (fan) oven we had used to burn everything, even following timings to the letter, and it used to burn things unevenly. Awful!

That sounds unusual - the whole point of fan is that it distributes heat evenly. Perhaps there was a fault with the thermostat?

Many people find that gas ovens dry food out quicker.

orangebird · 12-10-2013, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad

because there is a metal grid frame over the flame where fat and other spills spatter onto and get ingrained.

You then have to soak them every so often and also clean the metallic solid top underneath.
Induction cermaic = quick squirt of jiff kitchen cleaner, wipey-wipey and it's all sparkling and clean!

I've never had to soak anything on my cooker top to get it clean...

noise747 · 12-10-2013, 19:57

I like my gas cooker, but I had a small induction hob which I used more than the gas cooker as it is more economical.

Over the last few years the use of my gas cooker have got less and less as i had the Induction hob and the Halogen oven.

i do want a new gas cooker mind you, I want one with a high level grill, but not many around now, the only one I have seen is Beko.

Welsh-lad · 13-10-2013, 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangebird

I've never had to soak anything on my cooker top to get it clean...

A metal grid with nooks and corners is by common sense more tricky to clean than a flat shiny surface like an induction hob.

They even make the metal grids removeable for precisely the purpose of cleaning them and cleaning the surface underneath.

I get why people used to do it - gas gave superb control unlike old ring-hobs or halogens, but inductions such as Neff have solved that.

noise747 · 13-10-2013, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad

A metal grid with nooks and corners is by common sense more tricky to clean than a flat shiny surface like an induction hob.

They even make the metal grids removeable for precisely the purpose of cleaning them and cleaning the surface underneath.

I get why people used to do it - gas gave superb control unlike old ring-hobs or halogens, but inductions such as Neff have solved that.

My gas cooker is a bit grubby now and no matter how much I try, it will not come clean, but that is only the burners mind you.

Induction is good in that it is quick and easy to clean as the element itself do not heat up, but it is not as controllable as gas and it is not a constant heat.
it switches itself on and off to maintain the temperature and i think the steps between the different levels are too far apart. Ok I know different hobs may do things slightly different, but all inductions work in the same way.

Lushness · 13-10-2013, 09:20

I prefer gas personally...

neo_wales · 13-10-2013, 10:04

I prefer gas for cooking to be honest, far more control, not expensive to run, not much to go wrong with them. I think my daughter still has the induction hob I got her when she went off to university.

Welsh-lad · 13-10-2013, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise747

My gas cooker is a bit grubby now and no matter how much I try, it will not come clean, but that is only the burners mind you.

Induction is good in that it is quick and easy to clean as the element itself do not heat up, but it is not as controllable as gas and it is not a constant heat.
it switches itself on and off to maintain the temperature and i think the steps between the different levels are too far apart. Ok I know different hobs may do things slightly different, but all inductions work in the same way.

My induction hob doesn't switch itself off. There are nine settings. If I were to put on a pan of water on 9 it'd be boiling furiously very quickly, boiling slightly less vigorously at 7, down to a simmer at 4 and barely turning over on 1. There is no 'heat legacy' from one setting to another. If I turned it from 9 to 2, it'd stop boiling immediately, so the control is exactly like gas + more even distribution of heat across the base of the pan imo.

Badcat · 13-10-2013, 12:13

For me it's electric oven and gas hob.

I prefer the gas hob for ease of control and more importantly I KNOW when I've turned it off.

Had an induction a few years ago and had a terrible tendency to leave it on if it was on low as I used to forget it was on. Not a good thing to do especially with cats around!

Also hated the way I could only use certain pans with the induction, with the gas I can buy whatever takes my whim

RAINBOWGIRL22 · 13-10-2013, 12:18

We've always had electric cookers growing up.

Oddly I chose gas when I left home and have never gone back to electric.

Sallysally · 13-10-2013, 15:35

I have an induction hob for all "boiling" work, but mine must be a more basic one than some of the ones described on here because it is not that controllable for making delicate sauces etc.
For that I use my gas hob - but truly, the main reason I have stuck with gas, other than ease of use, is that we get power cuts where I live a fair amount - and with a gas hob, you can always knock up a meal.
An induction hob is no good in a power cut!

Welsh-lad · 14-10-2013, 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sallysally

I have an induction hob for all "boiling" work, but mine must be a more basic one than some of the ones described on here because it is not that controllable for making delicate sauces etc.
For that I use my gas hob - but truly, the main reason I have stuck with gas, other than ease of use, is that we get power cuts where I live a fair amount - and with a gas hob, you can always knock up a meal.
An induction hob is no good in a power cut!

Yes that's true. We have a solid fuel rayburn for that purpose - though that really is an 'interesting' hob to cook on!

CABINET · 14-10-2013, 13:29

Can you use a wok on an induction hob?

sy278 · 14-10-2013, 14:08

Gas for everything, electric cookers/over and grills all suck.

Toast from a Gas grill is a whole different joy compared to the dried out crap that comes from an electric grill or a toaster.

Welsh-lad · 14-10-2013, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by CABINET

Can you use a wok on an induction hob?

Can't see why not. Does it have a magnetic bottom?

Welsh-lad · 14-10-2013, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by sy278

Gas for everything, electric cookers/over and grills all suck.

Toast from a Gas grill is a whole different joy compared to the dried out crap that comes from an electric grill or a toaster.

It's down to taste and familiarity I guess. Gas is cheaper, but by about £30 a year (based on 1.5 hours a day usage).

I had a gas cooker for three years when I lived in rented accom, and I never really liked it - was always paranoid I'd left it on. Also cleaning it was a real hassle.
Good points = control on the hob, which was pretty impressive.
Bad points = cleaning + the oven was hopeless. It dried food out, especially meats, and heat was unevenly distributed.

I agree about gas grill toast though - it's really moist, yet crunchy and tasty.
Electric toasters are the worst.
I tend to toast on a grid directly on the rayburn hotplate.

venusinflares · 15-10-2013, 07:59

My gas oven doesn't dry food out, I've never heard anyone say that about them before.

The electric fan oven we used to have was hopeless for most things but especially baking. My gas oven is far, far superior for baking. I'm baking Parkin this afternoon so the whole house will end up smelling wonderful

noise747 · 15-10-2013, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by CABINET

Can you use a wok on an induction hob?

As long as it have a flat bottom and is magnetic.

06-10-2013, 16:02	#1
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Back to gas cooker :( My induction hob decided to go pop in a shower of sparks today. I know it is getting on, but still. I am not getting another one yet, I will wait until next year, I will have to do with the gas cooker, still at least I have the steamer.

08-10-2013, 16:08	#2
Shrike Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 11,480	I prefer gas. Cook-cook-cookability! Thats the beauty of gas!!!

11-10-2013, 04:28	#3
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Gas has become redundant. Gas cookers used to trump ceramic hobs in terms of control etc, but since induction there's no competition. Induction gives you the control of gas with the ease and cleanliness of ceramic. It's like when gas ovens became second rate to fan ovens.

11-10-2013, 19:44	#4
venusinflares Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,876	I love my gas cooker (oven and hob) and don't believe it's redundant! The only thing I hate about it is that it's got an electric grill which doesn't have the same ease of control as the gas. It's what people prefer, I prefer gas and wouldn't go electric through choice. The last electric (fan) oven we had used to burn everything, even following timings to the letter, and it used to burn things unevenly. Awful!

12-10-2013, 07:23	#5
annette kurten Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: dole office. Posts: 35,102	i`d rather have gas.

12-10-2013, 08:21	#6
orangebird Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,695	How is ceramic any cleaner or easier than gas?!

12-10-2013, 08:29	#7
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by orangebird How is ceramic any cleaner or easier than gas?! because there is a metal grid frame over the flame where fat and other spills spatter onto and get ingrained. You then have to soak them every so often and also clean the metallic solid top underneath. Induction cermaic = quick squirt of jiff kitchen cleaner, wipey-wipey and it's all sparkling and clean!

12-10-2013, 08:32	#8
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by venusinflares I love my gas cooker (oven and hob) and don't believe it's redundant! The only thing I hate about it is that it's got an electric grill which doesn't have the same ease of control as the gas. It's what people prefer, I prefer gas and wouldn't go electric through choice. The last electric (fan) oven we had used to burn everything, even following timings to the letter, and it used to burn things unevenly. Awful! That sounds unusual - the whole point of fan is that it distributes heat evenly. Perhaps there was a fault with the thermostat? Many people find that gas ovens dry food out quicker.

12-10-2013, 18:51	#9
orangebird Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,695	Quote: Originally Posted by Welsh-lad because there is a metal grid frame over the flame where fat and other spills spatter onto and get ingrained. You then have to soak them every so often and also clean the metallic solid top underneath. Induction cermaic = quick squirt of jiff kitchen cleaner, wipey-wipey and it's all sparkling and clean! I've never had to soak anything on my cooker top to get it clean...

12-10-2013, 19:57	#10
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	I like my gas cooker, but I had a small induction hob which I used more than the gas cooker as it is more economical. Over the last few years the use of my gas cooker have got less and less as i had the Induction hob and the Halogen oven. i do want a new gas cooker mind you, I want one with a high level grill, but not many around now, the only one I have seen is Beko.

13-10-2013, 08:30	#11
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by orangebird I've never had to soak anything on my cooker top to get it clean... A metal grid with nooks and corners is by common sense more tricky to clean than a flat shiny surface like an induction hob. They even make the metal grids removeable for precisely the purpose of cleaning them and cleaning the surface underneath. I get why people used to do it - gas gave superb control unlike old ring-hobs or halogens, but inductions such as Neff have solved that.

13-10-2013, 09:18	#12
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by Welsh-lad A metal grid with nooks and corners is by common sense more tricky to clean than a flat shiny surface like an induction hob. They even make the metal grids removeable for precisely the purpose of cleaning them and cleaning the surface underneath. I get why people used to do it - gas gave superb control unlike old ring-hobs or halogens, but inductions such as Neff have solved that. My gas cooker is a bit grubby now and no matter how much I try, it will not come clean, but that is only the burners mind you. Induction is good in that it is quick and easy to clean as the element itself do not heat up, but it is not as controllable as gas and it is not a constant heat. it switches itself on and off to maintain the temperature and i think the steps between the different levels are too far apart. Ok I know different hobs may do things slightly different, but all inductions work in the same way.

13-10-2013, 09:20	#13
Lushness Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Posts: 24,693	I prefer gas personally...

13-10-2013, 10:04	#14
neo_wales Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Wales/Gran Canaria Posts: 8,298	I prefer gas for cooking to be honest, far more control, not expensive to run, not much to go wrong with them. I think my daughter still has the induction hob I got her when she went off to university.

13-10-2013, 10:21	#15
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 My gas cooker is a bit grubby now and no matter how much I try, it will not come clean, but that is only the burners mind you. Induction is good in that it is quick and easy to clean as the element itself do not heat up, but it is not as controllable as gas and it is not a constant heat. it switches itself on and off to maintain the temperature and i think the steps between the different levels are too far apart. Ok I know different hobs may do things slightly different, but all inductions work in the same way. My induction hob doesn't switch itself off. There are nine settings. If I were to put on a pan of water on 9 it'd be boiling furiously very quickly, boiling slightly less vigorously at 7, down to a simmer at 4 and barely turning over on 1. There is no 'heat legacy' from one setting to another. If I turned it from 9 to 2, it'd stop boiling immediately, so the control is exactly like gas + more even distribution of heat across the base of the pan imo.

13-10-2013, 12:13	#16
Badcat Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,275	For me it's electric oven and gas hob. I prefer the gas hob for ease of control and more importantly I KNOW when I've turned it off. Had an induction a few years ago and had a terrible tendency to leave it on if it was on low as I used to forget it was on. Not a good thing to do especially with cats around! Also hated the way I could only use certain pans with the induction, with the gas I can buy whatever takes my whim

13-10-2013, 12:18	#17
RAINBOWGIRL22 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 23,261	We've always had electric cookers growing up. Oddly I chose gas when I left home and have never gone back to electric.

13-10-2013, 15:35	#18
Sallysally Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lala land Posts: 2,203	I have an induction hob for all "boiling" work, but mine must be a more basic one than some of the ones described on here because it is not that controllable for making delicate sauces etc. For that I use my gas hob - but truly, the main reason I have stuck with gas, other than ease of use, is that we get power cuts where I live a fair amount - and with a gas hob, you can always knock up a meal. An induction hob is no good in a power cut!

14-10-2013, 02:31	#19
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by Sallysally I have an induction hob for all "boiling" work, but mine must be a more basic one than some of the ones described on here because it is not that controllable for making delicate sauces etc. For that I use my gas hob - but truly, the main reason I have stuck with gas, other than ease of use, is that we get power cuts where I live a fair amount - and with a gas hob, you can always knock up a meal. An induction hob is no good in a power cut! Yes that's true. We have a solid fuel rayburn for that purpose - though that really is an 'interesting' hob to cook on!

14-10-2013, 13:29	#20
CABINET Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,546	Can you use a wok on an induction hob?

14-10-2013, 14:08	#21
sy278 Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,121	Gas for everything, electric cookers/over and grills all suck. Toast from a Gas grill is a whole different joy compared to the dried out crap that comes from an electric grill or a toaster.

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14-10-2013, 14:19	#22
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by CABINET Can you use a wok on an induction hob? Can't see why not. Does it have a magnetic bottom?

14-10-2013, 21:19	#23
Welsh-lad Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mid Wales / Canolbarth Cymru Posts: 37,555	Quote: Originally Posted by sy278 Gas for everything, electric cookers/over and grills all suck. Toast from a Gas grill is a whole different joy compared to the dried out crap that comes from an electric grill or a toaster. It's down to taste and familiarity I guess. Gas is cheaper, but by about £30 a year (based on 1.5 hours a day usage). I had a gas cooker for three years when I lived in rented accom, and I never really liked it - was always paranoid I'd left it on. Also cleaning it was a real hassle. Good points = control on the hob, which was pretty impressive. Bad points = cleaning + the oven was hopeless. It dried food out, especially meats, and heat was unevenly distributed. I agree about gas grill toast though - it's really moist, yet crunchy and tasty. Electric toasters are the worst. I tend to toast on a grid directly on the rayburn hotplate.

15-10-2013, 07:59	#24
venusinflares Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,876	My gas oven doesn't dry food out, I've never heard anyone say that about them before. The electric fan oven we used to have was hopeless for most things but especially baking. My gas oven is far, far superior for baking. I'm baking Parkin this afternoon so the whole house will end up smelling wonderful

15-10-2013, 10:09	#25
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by CABINET Can you use a wok on an induction hob? As long as it have a flat bottom and is magnetic.