Originally Posted by hannah_337:
“Dont worry, she'll be back next year.”
“Dont worry, she'll be back next year.”
I sincerely hope she'll be the wild card THIS year. Really only liked her. Forgotten the others already
Mels family must have kicked off big time!!
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I sincerely hope she'll be the wild card THIS year. Really only liked her. Forgotten the others already
Originally Posted by Nastyman69:
“I think there will be a wildcard”
“I think there will be a wildcard”
Originally Posted by Cosya:
“Eh how come?”
“Eh how come?”
Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.
Originally Posted by Convict:
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
How would that work. She can either sing or not and choosing not to pay your mortgage isn't going to affect that. Having said that she was clearly desperate and that kind of thing makes an audience feel a little uncomfortable.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“ How would that work. She can either sing or not and choosing not to pay your mortgage isn't going to affect that.
Having said that she was clearly desperate and that kind of thing makes an audience feel a little uncomfortable.”
“
How would that work. She can either sing or not and choosing not to pay your mortgage isn't going to affect that. Having said that she was clearly desperate and that kind of thing makes an audience feel a little uncomfortable.”
You think Hannah, Tamera, Nicholas et al weren't desperate this weekend?
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“ How would that work. She can either sing or not and choosing not to pay your mortgage isn't going to affect that.
Having said that she was clearly desperate and that kind of thing makes an audience feel a little uncomfortable.”
“
How would that work. She can either sing or not and choosing not to pay your mortgage isn't going to affect that. Having said that she was clearly desperate and that kind of thing makes an audience feel a little uncomfortable.”
Did you see hannah on the show and her dad dead, sob sob routine then or the all the ones pimping their kids for sympathy.
Why should she be 'angry'. Can't stand people with such a huge sense of entitlement. She was a good singer but nothing special. And just because her family has gone through some turmoil shouldn't be a reason for putting her through. There are probably lots of contestants who've been ...'to hell and back'
but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.
but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.
Originally Posted by Convict:
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
No actually, number one she mentioned it only once and for those who listened correctly her parents have split up and her mum is struggling to pay bills. She siad because of this she felt bad about the pressure she was putting her mum under and family, so she wont be back.
No different to Hannah hawking her dead dad story and crying on cue or the rest pimping their kids. It was a boohoo, my life is over if fest this year and the producers encourage it all.
Originally Posted by Beetlejuice:
“Why should she be 'angry'. Can't stand people with such a huge sense of entitlement. She was a good singer but nothing special. And just because her family has gone through some turmoil shouldn't be a reason for putting her through. There are probably lots of contestants who've been ...'to hell and back' but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.”
“Why should she be 'angry'. Can't stand people with such a huge sense of entitlement. She was a good singer but nothing special. And just because her family has gone through some turmoil shouldn't be a reason for putting her through. There are probably lots of contestants who've been ...'to hell and back'
but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.”
Melanie never used her financial situation as a sob story : in the same VT where she mentioned her house, she added that many other families are in the exact same situation.
Originally Posted by Cosya:
“She wasn't shown going back,”
“She wasn't shown going back,”
Either were Paul or Ryan or Andrea. Did their families kick-off, why would you assume Mel's did. What are you implying.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“You think Hannah, Tamera, Nicholas et al weren't desperate this weekend?”
“You think Hannah, Tamera, Nicholas et al weren't desperate this weekend?”
I do but this thread is about Melanie.
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“Did you see hannah on the show and her dad dead, sob sob routine then or the all the ones pimping their kids for sympathy.”
“Did you see hannah on the show and her dad dead, sob sob routine then or the all the ones pimping their kids for sympathy.”
Well I'm not interested in any one's sob story and wasn't actually aware of Melanie's which is why I asked but now you've filled me in I think a dead Dad takes precedence in the sob story stakes over not being able to afford your mortgage.
Quote:
“Why should she be angry. We didn't ask her to come back 4 times”
“Why should she be angry. We didn't ask her to come back 4 times”
No. But the producers did. They invited her back, knowing they were doing it just to shatter her dream at the JH. This shit is all pre-planned.
Originally Posted by Convict:
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
“Part of her sob story was that her parents had out everything on the line for her singing career and the house was apparently threatened with repossession.”
I can believe that. Amazing what a sniff of wealth can do to people's decision making.
I bet quite a few of the parents push their kids and build them up to be popstars just to get their paws on some wonga.
The Chawner elders are a perfect example.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I do but this thread is about Melanie.
Well I'm not interested in any one's sob story and wasn't actually aware of Melanie's which is why I asked but now you've filled me in I think a dead Dad takes precedence in the sob story stakes over not being able to afford your mortgage.”
“I do but this thread is about Melanie.
Well I'm not interested in any one's sob story and wasn't actually aware of Melanie's which is why I asked but now you've filled me in I think a dead Dad takes precedence in the sob story stakes over not being able to afford your mortgage.”
Really, no sob story should be used, sing or get off the pot. Hanna has really milked it and its unseemly, using dead relatives for sympathy..Every time she is on screen she is bawling. and I like her voice. No need for it.
Why is Melanie being picked on and singled out for something they all have done., when her crying was just a fraction of others and as for those using their kids, awful.
Originally Posted by Contains Nuts:
“I can believe that. Amazing what a sniff of wealth can do to people's decision making.
I bet quite a few of the parents push their kids and build them up to be popstars just to get their paws on some wonga.
The Chawner elders are a perfect example.”
“I can believe that. Amazing what a sniff of wealth can do to people's decision making.
I bet quite a few of the parents push their kids and build them up to be popstars just to get their paws on some wonga.
The Chawner elders are a perfect example.”
Her parents are splitting up and that's why the house is going, Melanie went back to try and help her mum but felt guilty because of the pressure financially she put her under. with flights etc. Not quite like the chawners.
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“Really, no sob story should be used, sing or get off the pot. Hanna has really milked it and its unseemly, using dead relatives for sympathy..Every time she is on screen she is bawling. and I like her voice. No need for it.
Why is Melanie being picked on and singled out for something they all have done., when her crying was just a fraction of others and as for those using their kids, awful.”
“Really, no sob story should be used, sing or get off the pot. Hanna has really milked it and its unseemly, using dead relatives for sympathy..Every time she is on screen she is bawling. and I like her voice. No need for it.
Why is Melanie being picked on and singled out for something they all have done., when her crying was just a fraction of others and as for those using their kids, awful.”
Agree
However, this is a thread where the OP speculated something about Melanie so we are talking about Melanie. There are many threads saying Hannah should stop the water works.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Agree However, this is a thread where the OP speculated something about Melanie so we are talking about Melanie. There are many threads saying Hannah should stop the water works.”
“Agree
However, this is a thread where the OP speculated something about Melanie so we are talking about Melanie. There are many threads saying Hannah should stop the water works.”
And my point is why pick on one, when they are all doing it.
Just like there was a film crew in the faces of Rough Copy, yet they acted surprised when Gary and dude we no Visa turned up lol
TV show 1st and foremost.. always will be... #Fake/FixFactor
TV show 1st and foremost.. always will be... #Fake/FixFactor
Originally Posted by Beetlejuice:
“Why should she be 'angry'. Can't stand people with such a huge sense of entitlement. She was a good singer but nothing special. And just because her family has gone through some turmoil shouldn't be a reason for putting her through. There are probably lots of contestants who've been ...'to hell and back' but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.”
“Why should she be 'angry'. Can't stand people with such a huge sense of entitlement. She was a good singer but nothing special. And just because her family has gone through some turmoil shouldn't be a reason for putting her through. There are probably lots of contestants who've been ...'to hell and back'
but haven't broadcast it and expect the judges to put them through because of it. She chose to compete again herself so must accept the outcome.”
She was told that unless the talent was better than previous years she would be in the lives if she turned up....
Guess what Nicole said to her... ''This years talent is better than in previous years''
She then contradicted this by telling her she was the best singer in the girls...
She said she did not connect with her, but also said she did when giving critique after performances!!
Melanie was brought back as the sacrificial lamb because they know she is a talking point and would not let them down performance wise, they fed her songs which would not let her show her true range, so they were not forced into a corner of having to pick her... and in turn miss out on their shock JH eviction!!
But i blame Melanie for falling for it, she has tweeted in the past the show is a fix, 2011 think it was!!
Anyway i have inside information an she has been in the studio and will be looking to bring out a album in the next few months when Syco has no ties aka they do not take a cut!
Originally Posted by HitmanHatton:
“She was told that unless the talent was better than previous years she would be in the lives if she turned up....
Guess what Nicole said to her... ''This years talent is better than in previous years''
She then contradicted this by telling her she was the best singer in the girls...
She said she did not connect with her, but also said she did when giving critique after performances!!
Melanie was brought back as the sacrificial lamb because they know she is a talking point and would not let them down performance wise, they fed her songs which would not let her show her true range, so they were not forced into a corner of having to pick her... and in turn miss out on their shock JH eviction!!
But i blame Melanie for falling for it, she has tweeted in the past the show is a fix, 2011 think it was!!
Anyway i have inside information an she has been in the studio and will be looking to bring out a album in the next few months when Syco has no ties aka they do not take a cut!”
“She was told that unless the talent was better than previous years she would be in the lives if she turned up....
Guess what Nicole said to her... ''This years talent is better than in previous years''
She then contradicted this by telling her she was the best singer in the girls...
She said she did not connect with her, but also said she did when giving critique after performances!!
Melanie was brought back as the sacrificial lamb because they know she is a talking point and would not let them down performance wise, they fed her songs which would not let her show her true range, so they were not forced into a corner of having to pick her... and in turn miss out on their shock JH eviction!!
But i blame Melanie for falling for it, she has tweeted in the past the show is a fix, 2011 think it was!!
Anyway i have inside information an she has been in the studio and will be looking to bring out a album in the next few months when Syco has no ties aka they do not take a cut!”
Very interesting : I do believe you have inside info as everything you say here adds up.
I'm intrigued to hear about them limiting her song choices in case she looked 'too good' on the show.....she was set up as the show's fall guy at JH all along.
This thread has a lot of making stuff up in it...
Where was she angry?
Where was she told she was a shoe in for the final 12?
I cannot find this information anywhere...
Where was she angry?
Where was she told she was a shoe in for the final 12?
I cannot find this information anywhere...
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“This thread has a lot of making stuff up in it...
Where was she angry?
Where was she told she was a shoe in for the final 12?
I cannot find this information anywhere...”
“This thread has a lot of making stuff up in it...
Where was she angry?
Where was she told she was a shoe in for the final 12?
I cannot find this information anywhere...
”
It certainly didn't come from Melanie anyway. At no point has she said she was angry or that she was even invited by the producers to re-audition, never mind be guaranteed a place in the 12.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“It certainly didn't come from Melanie anyway. At no point has she said she was angry or that she was even invited by the producers to re-audition, never mind be guaranteed a place in the 12.”
“It certainly didn't come from Melanie anyway. At no point has she said she was angry or that she was even invited by the producers to re-audition, never mind be guaranteed a place in the 12.”
I'm not understanding peoples attempts, although mild, to (for want of a better word) "demonise" her.
She seems upbeat and quite carefree about the whole thing and has acted with dignity.
Just because her uncle lashed out does not mean she or her family are angry and the fact that we didn't see her family reveal means nothing either. There could be many reasons why it wasn't shown.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Very interesting : I do believe you have inside info as everything you say here adds up.
I'm intrigued to hear about them limiting her song choices in case she looked 'too good' on the show.....she was set up as the show's fall guy at JH all along.”
“Very interesting : I do believe you have inside info as everything you say here adds up.
I'm intrigued to hear about them limiting her song choices in case she looked 'too good' on the show.....she was set up as the show's fall guy at JH all along.”
All i will say is i hope Louis and Gary were not in on the act, because she respects them and thinks they both have her best interests at heart.. they knew from day 1 she was not making the lives, Why do you think Louis or Gary were not given the girls? because it would not have been believable if they never put Melanie through to the lives...
The show knows the true extent of Melanie range, there has been plenty of behind the scene 'auditions' where she has showcased this to them, She has also been extensively (tested) coached by the shows vocal coaches, they know the songs she is given will not show her true ability.. they wanted her to shine, but not too brightly...
i see people saying Tamara is amazing for a 1 year old, well let me be honest, at 16 Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect, word perfect.. it is a fact she was better than Tamara is now at 10!! But Tamara is new,fresh, got a amazing look, she has a past which will sell newspapers, X Factor is all about the headlines and unfortunately has no previous, except with the show! i am proud of her... she is our hero!! yes hero...
Find it ironic Nicole told her she sings too perfect, wonder what week it is when she tells another judges acts they sang out of tune and that it is a fault.. while praising 1 of her own acts for singing note perfect!
Originally Posted by HitmanHatton:
“All i will say is i hope Louis and Gary were not in on the act, because she respects them and thinks they both have her best interests at heart.. they knew from day 1 she was not making the lives, Why do you think Louis or Gary were not given the girls? because it would not have been believable if they never put Melanie through to the lives...
The show knows the true extent of Melanie range, there has been plenty of behind the scene 'auditions' where she has showcased this to them, She has also been extensively (tested) coached by the shows vocal coaches, they know the songs she is given will not show her true ability.. they wanted her to shine, but not too brightly...
i see people saying Tamara is amazing for a 1 year old, well let me be honest, at 16 Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect, word perfect.. it is a fact she was better than Tamara is now at 10!! But Tamara is new,fresh, got a amazing look, she has a past which will sell newspapers, X Factor is all about the headlines and unfortunately has no previous, except with the show! i am proud of her... she is our hero!! yes hero...
Find it ironic Nicole told her she sings too perfect, wonder what week it is when she tells another judges acts they sang out of tune and that it is a fault.. while praising 1 of her own acts for singing note perfect!”
“All i will say is i hope Louis and Gary were not in on the act, because she respects them and thinks they both have her best interests at heart.. they knew from day 1 she was not making the lives, Why do you think Louis or Gary were not given the girls? because it would not have been believable if they never put Melanie through to the lives...
The show knows the true extent of Melanie range, there has been plenty of behind the scene 'auditions' where she has showcased this to them, She has also been extensively (tested) coached by the shows vocal coaches, they know the songs she is given will not show her true ability.. they wanted her to shine, but not too brightly...
i see people saying Tamara is amazing for a 1 year old, well let me be honest, at 16 Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect, word perfect.. it is a fact she was better than Tamara is now at 10!! But Tamara is new,fresh, got a amazing look, she has a past which will sell newspapers, X Factor is all about the headlines and unfortunately has no previous, except with the show! i am proud of her... she is our hero!! yes hero...
Find it ironic Nicole told her she sings too perfect, wonder what week it is when she tells another judges acts they sang out of tune and that it is a fault.. while praising 1 of her own acts for singing note perfect!”
Sorry to be cynical, but when people pop onto DS (particularly new members with single digit post counts) claiming to have inside information, I think you'll find only the most gullible will take you seriously, unless you can back it up with something.
I've seen some of Melanies performances away from the show and think she is a very strong singer and I think she has more presence than the show has shown us, I'm not sure whether the auditions are really a good format to see that though.
But, I have seen nothing to indicate that Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect. She's a polished, strong vocalist but I've seen no evidence that she is in that range and content is out there.
Originally Posted by HitmanHatton:
“All i will say is i hope Louis and Gary were not in on the act, because she respects them and thinks they both have her best interests at heart.. they knew from day 1 she was not making the lives, Why do you think Louis or Gary were not given the girls? because it would not have been believable if they never put Melanie through to the lives...
The show knows the true extent of Melanie range, there has been plenty of behind the scene 'auditions' where she has showcased this to them, She has also been extensively (tested) coached by the shows vocal coaches, they know the songs she is given will not show her true ability.. they wanted her to shine, but not too brightly...
i see people saying Tamara is amazing for a 1 year old, well let me be honest, at 16 Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect, word perfect.. it is a fact she was better than Tamara is now at 10!! But Tamara is new,fresh, got a amazing look, she has a past which will sell newspapers, X Factor is all about the headlines and unfortunately has no previous, except with the show! i am proud of her... she is our hero!! yes hero...
Find it ironic Nicole told her she sings too perfect, wonder what week it is when she tells another judges acts they sang out of tune and that it is a fault.. while praising 1 of her own acts for singing note perfect!”
“All i will say is i hope Louis and Gary were not in on the act, because she respects them and thinks they both have her best interests at heart.. they knew from day 1 she was not making the lives, Why do you think Louis or Gary were not given the girls? because it would not have been believable if they never put Melanie through to the lives...
The show knows the true extent of Melanie range, there has been plenty of behind the scene 'auditions' where she has showcased this to them, She has also been extensively (tested) coached by the shows vocal coaches, they know the songs she is given will not show her true ability.. they wanted her to shine, but not too brightly...
i see people saying Tamara is amazing for a 1 year old, well let me be honest, at 16 Melanie could sing Whitney note perfect, word perfect.. it is a fact she was better than Tamara is now at 10!! But Tamara is new,fresh, got a amazing look, she has a past which will sell newspapers, X Factor is all about the headlines and unfortunately has no previous, except with the show! i am proud of her... she is our hero!! yes hero...
Find it ironic Nicole told her she sings too perfect, wonder what week it is when she tells another judges acts they sang out of tune and that it is a fault.. while praising 1 of her own acts for singing note perfect!”
The best guess I can make as to why they didn't put Melanie through and chose the 12 they did was to try and guarantee a win for Tamera.
It's an idiotic way of going about things though. If Tamera fails to get near the final, they may end up with a very mediocre series.
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