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Old 07-10-2013, 12:48
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People saying Melanie should get the message now not to enter again, isn't that what life is all about not giving up on your dreams? I know she is putting herself trough torture poor girl, but this is what she wants to do so why should she give up. Many big names out there have being knocked down and told no before they got that big yes, so hopefully something will come her way some day. Jade has being on a few times now. personally i would not go trough it again and again.
She shouldn't give up on her dream, but I think its time she tried a different route into the industry other than X Factor. I don't imagine she'd try again after this time.
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Old 07-10-2013, 14:51
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She shouldn't give up on her dream, but I think its time she tried a different route into the industry other than X Factor. I don't imagine she'd try again after this time.
It seems according to an interview she gave this morning along with Louis that she had changed her mind and wanted to drop out after the early stages of X Factor ,when she rang them and told them she was dropping out , the producers rang back and begged her not to drop out , that this was her year and they had great plans for her , they led her to believe , she was a certainty for the Live shows ,so she decided to carry on with XF.

This is what is annoying people not her booting. Its wrong.She wont try again, she wanted to opt out this time and they dissuaded her.
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Old 07-10-2013, 14:54
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It seems according to an interview she gave this morning along with Louis that she had changed her mind and wanted to drop out after the early stages of X Factor ,when she rang them and told them she was dropping out , the producers rang back and begged her not to drop out , that this was her year and they had great plans for her , they led her to believe was certainty for the Lives ,so she decided to carry on with XF.

This is what is annoying people not her booting.She wont try again, she wanted to opt out this time and they dissuaded her.
They didn't force her to come for audition. Or to come back a second time for live audition.

I'm sure that she was a good story for them, but that is how the show works. She must surely know that by now?

And a producer saying "we think you're great come back" is a guarantee of absolutely nothing.

It was her own choice at the end of the day. And she keeps entering because she knows that without the show she has absolutely no chance of a recording career. That is the harsh truth.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:00
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They didn't force her to come for audition. Or to come back a second time for live audition.

I'm sure that she was a good story for them, but that is how the show works. She must surely know that by now?

And a producer saying "we think you're great come back" is a guarantee of absolutely nothing.

It was her own choice at the end of the day. And she keeps entering because she knows that without the show she has absolutely no chance of a recording career. That is the harsh truth.
No, that is your opinion. Nothing more just an opinion.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:00
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They didn't force her to come for audition. Or to come back a second time for live audition.

I'm sure that she was a good story for them, but that is how the show works. She must surely know that by now?

And a producer saying "we think you're great come back" is a guarantee of absolutely nothing.

It was her own choice at the end of the day. And she keeps entering because she knows that without the show she has absolutely no chance of a recording career. That is the harsh truth.
Certainly, but any one of the XF finalists would jump at an offer from the producers like that, so nobody can single Melanie out on that score.

Where she went wrong was in believing that they were honourable individuals and not realising that they are cold and cynical and would sacrifice their own mother in pursuit of TV ratings.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:02
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It seems according to an interview she gave this morning along with Louis that she had changed her mind and wanted to drop out after the early stages of X Factor ,when she rang them and told them she was dropping out , the producers rang back and begged her not to drop out , that this was her year and they had great plans for her , they led her to believe , she was a certainty for the Live shows ,so she decided to carry on with XF.

This is what is annoying people not her booting. Its wrong.She wont try again, she wanted to opt out this time and they dissuaded her.
[citation needed]

Even if it is true, what you are saying is that she was happy to go along with the scripting and happy to fool her fellow contestants into believing that they were competing against her on an even playing field. She can't complain now that it actually turned out it wasn't scripted in her favour after all.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:03
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It seems according to an interview she gave this morning along with Louis that she had changed her mind and wanted to drop out after the early stages of X Factor ,when she rang them and told them she was dropping out , the producers rang back and begged her not to drop out , that this was her year and they had great plans for her , they led her to believe , she was a certainty for the Live shows ,so she decided to carry on with XF.

This is what is annoying people not her booting. Its wrong.She wont try again, she wanted to opt out this time and they dissuaded her.
If that's true, its not a surprise given how manipulated the show is but its not right to raise someone's hopes like that in order to keep them in for drama purposes.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:03
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No, that is your opinion. Nothing more just an opinion.
But it's an opinion that is almost certainly entirely correct.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:04
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[citation needed]

Even if it is true, what you are saying is that she was happy to go along with the scripting and happy to fool her fellow contestants into believing that they were competing against her on an even playing field. She can't complain now that it actually turned out it wasn't scripted in her favour after all.
How do we know what Tamera, Hannah, Abi, Nicholas, Sam Callahan et al were also promised by the producers though? Melanie wouldn't have been the only one in conversations with them........
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:05
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They didn't force her to come for audition. Or to come back a second time for live audition.

I'm sure that she was a good story for them, but that is how the show works. She must surely know that by now?

And a producer saying "we think you're great come back" is a guarantee of absolutely nothing.

It was her own choice at the end of the day. And she keeps entering because she knows that without the show she has absolutely no chance of a recording career. That is the harsh truth.
Really, she was begged to come back and given false promises. The ones on the show have little chance never mind Mel. Where are all the winners now eh. Leon hello.

Seems to me a lot of people like her. At least she can sing, unlike Abby and her silly songs. You can write songs but writing good ones is another thing.

Lots of different artist have recording careers, even Des o Connor had one. Who are you to say, who will have a career. We all have differing taste, I dont rate Abby and would not buy her music, you would. So it goes.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:07
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No, that is your opinion. Nothing more just an opinion.
Ok it is an opinion.

What is factual is that she doesn't have a recording career despite entering the show four times over a 5/6 year period.

My question is, why enter a fourth time (even a third time) if she doesn't need the show to obtain a recording career? Indeed if she doesn't need it, then no need for the tears and the outcry is there?
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:10
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[citation needed]

Even if it is true, what you are saying is that she was happy to go along with the scripting and happy to fool her fellow contestants into believing that they were competing against her on an even playing field. She can't complain now that it actually turned out it wasn't scripted in her favour after all.
Nope it seems they praised her up and encouraged her to think she would do well. to keep her on board for drama purposes. I doubt they committed themselves too foolishly, just enough to hook a young girl who wanted to fullfill her dreams. She thought she had good crack of the whip but was just a pawn.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:10
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Ok it is an opinion.

What is factual is that she doesn't have a recording career despite entering the show four times over a 5/6 year period.

My question is, why enter a fourth time (even a third time) if she doesn't need the show to obtain a recording career? Indeed if she doesn't need it, then no need for the tears and the outcry is there?
I could throw the same question back at you and ask what any of the 12 finalists are doing on a TV talent show and not going the conventional route.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:12
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Really, she was begged to come back and given false promises. The ones on the show have little chance never mind Mel. Where are all the winners now eh. Leon hello.

Seems to me a lot of people like her. At least she can sing, unlike Abby and her silly songs. You can write songs but writing good ones is another thing.

Lots of different artist have recording careers, even Des o Connor had one. Who are you to say, who will have a career. We all have differing taste, I dont rate Abby and would not buy her music, you would. So it goes.
I wouldn't buy Abi's music. Not at this moment in time anyway.

There are so many good artists out there (away from X Factor land) proper, developed real artists to listen to that I don't need to base my buying choices on who is the latest cog in Cowell's machine.

I have more respect for someone on the show when they have carved out their own style, play their own stuff and have already recorded their own songs, or at least performed their stuff live, over someone who turns up with a decent voice and a half baked cover hoping they somehow fit with what the producers want that year.

Abi at 18 has already written, recorded and released an album. I have some respect in that and therefore think she has a chance.

Singing covers is what hundreds and thousands of wedding and pub singers do up and down the country every single day. It does not automatically make you worthy of a recording career or even a slot on a TV talent show! Not in my book at least.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:13
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Seems to me a lot of people like her. At least she can sing, unlike Abby and her silly songs. You can write songs but writing good ones is another thing..
Don't you see the irony of a post like this?

Whether you like Abi or not, any fool can see that she's more marketable than Melanie ever would have been.

Oh and do try and spell the contestant's names correctly unless you have an amusing play on words to offer.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:13
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I could throw the same question back at you and ask what any of the 12 finalists are doing on a TV talent show and not going the conventional route.
Exactly. if they are all that good, why are they not discovered and with careers. Xfactor is not about singing.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:15
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I could throw the same question back at you and ask what any of the 12 finalists are doing on a TV talent show and not going the conventional route.
Oh absolutely. Though as I say in my previous post, I'll give an 18 year old (first time entry?) who plays piano and guitar, has written and recorded her own songs and performed live already far more slack in entering this than I would someone just pitching up hoping a few nice covers will be enough.

Abi to me, like her or not, demonstrates she wants to be a musician. Badly. And has done something, nay, many things about it.

I'll also cut slack to Sharon's category as none of those have a chance of any sort of recording career now, without the show and arguably at least one of them, is a hell of a singer.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:16
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Guaranteed she'll be back as a wild card. If not then it was a bit cruel of them to take her this far. I don't think shes very good but I did feel sorry for her.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:19
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I reckon there is a wildcard and Melanie more likely to be in the live shows - they wanted to create this drama and the backlash that has happened regarding Melanie not going through
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:19
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Don't you see the irony of a post like this?

Whether you like Abi or not, any fool can see that she's more marketable than Melanie ever would have been.

Oh and do try and spell the contestant's names correctly unless you have an amusing play on words to offer.
Yes I do Abbysmal, she is so forgettable , I dont even remember her name. If she is marketable why is she bawling for sympathy on the Xfactor, boohoo I cant hear no boohooo.

Why has this paragon no recording contract if she is so good. Why is she pimping herself to us. No artist who takes themselves or their work seriously would go on the Xfactor. Its syco controlled.

Miss Gould did not need the Xfactor nor Lily Allen, nor most of the good female artists around.Sorry your fav is not my fav.I find her contrived, weak and boring.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:22
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But it's an opinion that is almost certainly entirely correct.
Again another opinion, and it's almost certainly entirely incorrect. Its annoying when opinions are offered up as facts, unless a person can see into the future then the words have no weight.
One persons trash is another persons treasure. By saying Melanie's only route into the music business is through x factor, and that it was her only chance of a career in music is very short sighted IMO
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:22
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Yes I do Abbysmal, she is so forgettable , I dont even remember her name.
That's a bit contrary.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:23
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Yes I do Abbysmal, she is so forgettable , I dont even remember her name. If she is marketable why is she bawling for sympathy on the Xfactor, boohoo I cant hear no boohooo.
Agree (if I'm interpreting this rather oddly constructed sentence correctly. But aren't 99% of them "bawling for sympathy" this year, including Melanie.
Why has this paragon no recording contract if she is so good. Why is she pimping herself to us. No artist who takes themselves or their work seriously would go on the Xfactor. Its syco controlled.
Agreed again, but why is this specific to Abi? Surely it applies to all of them?
Miss Gould did not need the Xfactor nor Lily Allen, nor most of the good female artists around.
Who is Miss Gould? Never heard of her, so she can't have done that well.
Sorry your fav is not my fav.I find her contrived, weak and boring.
She's not my "fave", she's just more interesting than some of them, certainly Melanie, who I wish no ill but anyone who thinks she can make it is deluded.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:24
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By saying Melanie's only route into the music business is through x factor, and that it was her only chance of a career in music is very short sighted IMO
But 100% accurate - mark my words.
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Old 07-10-2013, 15:26
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Where is Jeref? I thought he'll be doing somersaults by now
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