The US Ratings Thread (Part 1)

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tq21

28-10-2013

These are final Live + Same Day ratings after adjustments have been made. Those shows in their 3rd season and therefore only needing 1 season for syndication have an * as they would need something catastrophic to happen for them to be cancelled.

Final Ratings Oct 20th - 26th

Code:

Network		       18-49 Live + SD
ABC		
Betrayal		0.9	3.51m
Once Wonderland		1.1	4.38m
Trophy Wife		1.2	4.05m
*Revenge		1.5	6.16m
20/20(F)		1.5	6.60m
Nashville		1.6	5.46m
Goldbergs		1.7	5.20m
Back in the Game	1.7	6.27m
Castle			1.9	10.59m
Shark Tank(F)		2.0	7.39m
DWTS			2.0	13.35m
Super Fun Night		2.1	5.79m
*Once Upon A Time	2.1	7.05m
The Middle		2.2	8.31m
SHIELD			2.7	7.39m
Grey's Anatomy		2.8	8.73m
Scandal			2.9	8.62m
Modern Family		3.9	10.32m

CBS
Hostages		1.2	5.16m
The Mentalist		1.2	7.75m
Blue Bloods(F)		1.3	11.27m
Good Wife		1.4	8.99m
Hawaii Five-O(F)	1.4	9.46m
Undercover Boss(F)	1.6	8.56m
Elementary		1.8	8.72m
Amazing Race		1.9	8.87m
CSI			2.1	10.45m
*Person of Interest	2.2	13.17m
Mom			2.3	7.28m
2.5 Men			2.3	8.53m
Crazy Ones		2.3	8.69m
Survivor		2.4	9.52m
*2 Broke Girls		2.5	7.36m
NCIS-LA			2.5	14.92m	
Millers			2.7	10.74m
Criminal Minds		2.7	11.55m
HIMYM			3.0	7.64m
NCIS			3.0	18.99m
Big Bang Theory		5.2	16.98m

FOX
Mindy Project		1.3	2.69m
Dads			1.4	3.59m
Masterchef Jr(F)	1.4	3.87m
Brooklyn-99		1.6	3.77m
*New Girl		1.8	3.74m
Bones			2.2	7.60m

NBC 
Ironside		0.8	3.85m
Sean Saves the World	1.1	3.96m
MJ Fox Show		1.2	3.76m
Parenthood		1.3	3.95m	
Dateline(F)		1.3	6.08m
Revolution		1.4	5.04m
L&O SVU			1.4	5.53m
Dracula(F)		1.8	5.26m
Grimm(F)		1.8	6.15m
Biggest Loser		2.0	6.70m
Chicago Fire		2.1	7.45m
Blacklist		3.0	10.44m
Voice (Tue)		4.1	13.14m
Voice (Mon)		4.3	13.69m

CW
iHeartradio(F)		0.2	0.66m
Carrie Diaries(F)	0.3	0.78m
Beauty & Beast		0.3	0.82m
*Hart of Dixie		0.4	1.05m
Reign			0.6	1.83m
Tomorrow People		0.7	1.92m
Originals		0.9	2.23m
Arrow			0.9	2.89m
Supernatural		1.1	2.34m
Vampire Diaries		1.3	2.63m

tq21

29-10-2013

Preliminary Demo Ratings for Monday Night

Code:

ABC
DWTS		2.0
Castle		2.1

CBS
HIMYM		2.9
2 Broke Girls	2.6
BBT - R		2.5
Mom		2.1
Hostages	1.3

FOX
World Series	3.8

NBC
Voice		4.2
Blacklist	3.1

CW
Hart of Dixie	0.4
Beauty & Beast	0.3

Salv*

29-10-2013

CBS:
How I Met Your Mother- 7.63m (2.9)
2 Broke Girls- 7.60m (2.6)
The Big Bang Theory (r)- 7.94m (2.5)
Mom- 6.61m (2.1)
Hostages- 4.95m (1.3)

FOX:
World Series- 13.19m (3.8)

NBC:
The Voice- 12.97m (4.2)
The Blacklist- 10.66m (3.1)

ABC:
Dancing with the Stars- 12.97m (2.0)
Castle- 10.68m (2.1)

CW:
Hart of Dixie- 1.13m (0.4)
Beauty and The Beast- 870,000 (0.3)

I understand that DWTS is an older skewing show, but didn;t know Castle appealed to a lot of older people. Seems like ABC on Mondays are targeted more for older audiences as NBC gets much higher demos despite getting the same sort of ratings in general.

Sad_BB_Addict

29-10-2013

The ridiculous Hostages continues to sink like a stone

Code:

	Hostages
	
16-Sep	
23-Sep	7.41
30-Sep	5.99
07-Oct	5.14
14-Oct	5.16
21-Oct	5.16
28-Oct	4.9
	
	LOST 
	34.0%

Salv*

29-10-2013

Final numbers...

Adjusted up

CBS:
How I Met Your Mother- 7.75m (3.0)
2 Broke Girls- 7.71m (2.7)

NBC:
The Voice- 13.22m (4.3)

ABC:
Dancing with the Stars- 13.28m (2.1)

Adjusted down:

CBS:
Hostages- 4.90m (1.2)

Fudd

30-10-2013

How many more episodes has Hostages got left? I'm surprised CBS haven't pulled it.

tq21

30-10-2013

Preliminary Demo Ratings for Tuesday Night

Code:

ABC
SHIELD -R		1.2
Goldbergs		1.7
Trophy Wife		1.4
Shark Tank -R		1.0

CBS
NCIS			3.0
NCIS-LA			2.6
Person of Interest	1.8

FOX
X-Factor 		1.5	

NBC
Biggest Loser		1.8
Voice			3.5

CW
Originals		0.9
Supernatural		1.1

gilesb

30-10-2013

Ouch a 1.5 for the x-factor! That break did it no favours!

Salv*

30-10-2013

CBS:
NCIS- 18.98m (3.0)
NCIA LA- 14.76m (2.6)
Person of Interest- 11.90m (1.8)

NBC:
The Biggest Loser- 5.95m (1.8)
The Voice- 11.42m (3.5)

FOX:
X Factor USA- 4.76m (1.5)

ABC:
The Goldbergs- 5.37m (1.7)
TRophy Wife- 4.28m (1.4)

CW:
The Originals- 2.02m (0.9)
Supernatural- 2.16m (1.1)

Oh My, what a horrific demo and rating for X Factor!

Salv*

30-10-2013

Adjusted up:

NBC:
The Voice- 11.62m (3.6)

CBS:
Person of Interest- 12.00m (1.9)

CW:
The Originals- 2.05m (1.0)

Wondering why TO hasn't had a full season order by now, it's performing well above everybody's expectations.

JCR

31-10-2013

World Series is a bit of a damp squib, Boston are hammering St Louis, presume that'll effect the rating.

Tyyleer

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by gilesb:
“Ouch a 1.5 for the x-factor! That break did it no favours!”

Awful, awful ratings. Surely it will get axed this season?

dizzie

31-10-2013

X Factor is dying a horrible slow death. But then Fox were incredibly stupid to stick the first live show on a different night, up against The Voice, and expect any other outcome. I know the baseball screws stuff up, but they really needed to find another way round it. As it stands, now the World Series finished at game 6, the XF results are on tonight as per usual, but a repeat of Glee gets the 9pm slot. They ought to have waited one more week, and run the first live show starting next week. But, what's done is done, and I think the audience won't be much better for the results show. The only thing that persuades me that Fox will stick with XF beyond this season is that they won't have baseball to contend with next year. That leaves them with a month of scheduling they haven't had for a long time. Unless they have a rich and full pipeline with several new shows (XF can take up to 4 hours of Fox's weekly schedule sometimes), they don't have a great deal to replace it with.

gilesb

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by dizzie:
“X Factor is dying a horrible slow death. But then Fox were incredibly stupid to stick the first live show on a different night, up against The Voice, and expect any other outcome. I know the baseball screws stuff up, but they really needed to find another way round it. As it stands, now the World Series finished at game 6, the XF results are on tonight as per usual, but a repeat of Glee gets the 9pm slot. They ought to have waited one more week, and run the first live show starting next week. But, what's done is done, and I think the audience won't be much better for the results show. The only thing that persuades me that Fox will stick with XF beyond this season is that they won't have baseball to contend with next year. That leaves them with a month of scheduling they haven't had for a long time. Unless they have a rich and full pipeline with several new shows (XF can take up to 4 hours of Fox's weekly schedule sometimes), they don't have a great deal to replace it with.”

I would tend to agree with you. It isn't as if any other Fox show is doing amazingly well either or that they have a clear replacement for the XFactor, which must surely be cheaper to produce than any scripted content.

I guess it depends on whether or not they have a new reality/talent show that they can put out in its place. However i suppose it also depends on whether or not Simon wants to continue to flog a dead horse and face further embarrassment by being on a low rated TV show.... where are those 20million viewers he claimed the show would have?

I would expect viewing figures to increase a little bit next week.

Additionally it can't be a results show on next, they did the results in the actual show. Is it not a "meet the top 12" type show? I can't imagine that will rate very highly.

NoEntry2k

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“How many more episodes has Hostages got left? I'm surprised CBS haven't pulled it.”

Assuming it has a 13 episode order, it still has another 7 episodes. Its questionable if CBS is going to stick with it. I presume it depends on if they can wrap up all storylines up within the 13 episodes, which they might not if they were confident of a 22 episode order being given once it started to air.

Salv*

31-10-2013

World Series damaged everything in sight. Bad night for the CW, can't wait until the World Series is over, it is ruining Arrow so much! Not surprising, both the World Series and Arrow are aimed at more males. Those demos are not good in the slightest, series low

CBS:
Survivor- 9.02m (2.3)
Criminal Minds- 10.62 (2.4)
CSI- 9.59m (1.8)

FOX:
World Series- 18.00m (5.4)

ABC:
The Middle- 8.03m (2.1)
Back in The Game- 6.25m (1.7)
Super Fun Night- 5.42m (1.8)
Nashville- 5.23m

NBC:
Revoloution- 4.91m (1.4)

CW:
Arrow- 2.34m (0.7)
The Tomorrow People- 1.73m (0.6)

tamibeckett

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by JCR:
“World Series is a bit of a damp squib, Boston are hammering St Louis, presume that'll effect the rating.”

The World Series got a 5.4 in the demo with 18 million viewers

tamibeckett

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“World Series damaged everything in sight. Bad night for the CW, can't wait until the World Series is over, it is ruining Arrow so much! Those demos are not good in the slightest, series low

CBS:
Survivor- 9.02m (2.3)
Criminal Minds- 10.62 (2.4)
CSI- 9.59m (1.8)

FOX:
World Series- 18.00m (5.4)

ABC:
The Middle- 8.03m (2.1)
Back in The Game- 6.25m (1.7)
Super Fun Night- 5.42m (1.8)
Nashville- 5.23m

NBC:
Revoloution- 4.91m (1.4)

CW:
Arrow- 2.34m (0.7)
The Tomorrow People- 1.73m (0.6)”

It's done, Boston won the series

Salv*

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by tamibeckett:
“It's done, Boston won the series .”

Thank God. We can see higher ratings all round now!

Fudd

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by gilesb:
“I would tend to agree with you. It isn't as if any other Fox show is doing amazingly well either or that they have a clear replacement for the XFactor, which must surely be cheaper to produce than any scripted content.

I guess it depends on whether or not they have a new reality/talent show that they can put out in its place. However i suppose it also depends on whether or not Simon wants to continue to flog a dead horse and face further embarrassment by being on a low rated TV show.... where are those 20million viewers he claimed the show would have?

I would expect viewing figures to increase a little bit next week.

Additionally it can't be a results show on next, they did the results in the actual show. Is it not a "meet the top 12" type show? I can't imagine that will rate very highly.”

It is a Meet the Top 12 style show - it's basically filler because I believe the seventh game of the World Series would have been aired tonight had it gone to the final match.

In hindsight maybe FOX should have given The X Factor the winter/spring slot where it wouldn't be thrown all over the place and American Idol in the fall as it had a loyal audience already but that's easy to say in hindsight as American Idol has recorded heavy declines too.

Originally Posted by NoEntry2k:
“Assuming it has a 13 episode order, it still has another 7 episodes. Its questionable if CBS is going to stick with it. I presume it depends on if they can wrap up all storylines up within the 13 episodes, which they might not if they were confident of a 22 episode order being given once it started to air.”

But surely they could swap it with Blue Bloods on Friday night which pulls in more viewers for a similar demo? It seems such a waste in that slot.

tamibeckett

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Thank God. We can see higher ratings all round now!”

Well only if you exclude Sundays. Walking Dead vs Sunday Night Football

paltonz

31-10-2013

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“World Series damaged everything in sight. Bad night for the CW, can't wait until the World Series is over, it is ruining Arrow so much! Not surprising, both the World Series and Arrow are aimed at more males. Those demos are not good in the slightest, series low ”

Now that Boston has won the series, I suppose the ratings can go back up now for broadcast shows. That being said, I'm worried for The Tomorrow People as it is now on a 0.6 rating. If it rises next week, we are back on track. Despite this, it must be pleasing to see The CW having five scripted shows that are doing either great business or showing promises. The Originals is definitely getting a full-season order and The Tomorrow People might too, only if the ratings improve by a two tenths (0.8). ANTM is getting a 0.4 to 0.5 on a weekly basis and that is a passable number for Friday. I am wondering if Tyra will keep the Guys & Girls format for next season? It seems like the logical option, since they did get renewed for their 21st cycle (It will be their 11th season/year airing overall). It's (still) much better than The Face, the other modeling show with unlikable judges, host, contestants and is very inferior.

Modern Family is spared against The World Series, but interesting how Super Fun Night is left to fend for themselves. Maybe it's a sign that it will definitely move to Tuesdays in 2014. I'm not counting that Suburbgatory will do any better though, when it returns. As for X Factor doing horribly on Tuesday, it's a telling sign now. This means that their live shows won't bode that well. If American Idol don't improve anytime soon, FOX will not have anymore singing shows left by 2014-15 season. I don't know why X Factor even got a renewal to begin with.

Salv*

01-11-2013

At least there was an adjustment for Arrow!

Adjusted up:

ABC:
The Middle- 8.03m (2.2)

CW:
Arrow- 2.37m (0.8)

Adjusted down:

ABC:
Super Fun Night- 5.17m (1.7)

CBS:
CSI- 9.50m (1.7)

JCR

01-11-2013

Originally Posted by tamibeckett:
“Well only if you exclude Sundays. Walking Dead vs Sunday Night Football .”

If I was running one of the other networks, I would wonder if it was worthwhile running new programming against Denver at New England on November 24th, because that's another 25 million plus one, I'd imagine.

tq21

01-11-2013

Preliminary Demo Ratings for Thursday Night

Code:

ABC
Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown	2.2
Grey's Anatomy			2.6
Scandal				2.9

CBS
Big Bang Theory - R		2.5
Millers				2.0
Crazy Ones			1.9
Big Bang Theory - R		??
Elementary			1.7

FOX
X Factor			0.8
Glee - R			??

NBC
SNL Halloween			1.7
Sean Saves the World		1.2
MJ Fox Show			1.1
Parenthood			1.3	

CW
Vampire Diaries			0.8
Reign				0.6

Wow Halloween nightmare for X-Factor even if it was a meet the 12 special, although all the networks suffered. The Vampire Diaries was pre-empted in NY so should see a bump in final ratings.

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