Well beauty does make them money in europe but then that can only go as far as being a continued excuse to remain on the air. I personally think it's a load of crap and one of the worst supernatural dramas i have seen but hey, i am not one to question French people's tastes.
The US Ratings Thread (Part 1)
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Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Well beauty does make them money in europe but then that can only go as far as being a continued excuse to remain on the air. I personally think it's a load of crap and one of the worst supernatural dramas i have seen but hey, i am not one to question French people's tastes.”
“Well beauty does make them money in europe but then that can only go as far as being a continued excuse to remain on the air. I personally think it's a load of crap and one of the worst supernatural dramas i have seen but hey, i am not one to question French people's tastes.”
Yep, when it comes to low ratings, it all depends on international success so that's what is saving it for sure. It's like Gossip Girl, its repeats in Italy still get big audiences, and it was very popular there, it probably would have survived another 5 years had it was based on the success there.
Vampire Diaries also has a large fanbase in Italy.
But to be fair, The Tomorrow People wasn't saved due to the popularity here, it was actually one of the best rated shows in the slot for E4... as is The 100 (which surpasses Hollyoaks first look continuously).
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Well beauty does make them money in europe but then that can only go as far as being a continued excuse to remain on the air. I personally think it's a load of crap and one of the worst supernatural dramas i have seen but hey, i am not one to question French people's tastes.”
“Well beauty does make them money in europe but then that can only go as far as being a continued excuse to remain on the air. I personally think it's a load of crap and one of the worst supernatural dramas i have seen but hey, i am not one to question French people's tastes.”
It's a French classic so of course they're going to love it.
In fairness they love any kind of fantasy or sci-fi whether French or not.
Never knew this but Mulaney was given an instant 16 episode order when it was picked up. However production has finished on the 13th episode and it has been now been confirmed that FOX have reduced the order from 16 to 13.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“It wouldn't surprise me if BatB gets another season next year, it's literally like the baby of the CW, they just don't want to let it go for some reason. I wouldn't even go as far as saying that it probably will make it 6 seasons with a 0.1-0.2 demo!”
“It wouldn't surprise me if BatB gets another season next year, it's literally like the baby of the CW, they just don't want to let it go for some reason. I wouldn't even go as far as saying that it probably will make it 6 seasons with a 0.1-0.2 demo!”
Don't CW have a huge value deal for content with hulu? Would probably have to consider how they were doing on the streaming services before they got rid.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ew-low/317119/
Resurrection saw a major tumble
Resurrection saw a major tumble
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Never knew this but Mulaney was given an instant 16 episode order when it was picked up. However production has finished on the 13th episode and it has been now been confirmed that FOX have reduced the order from 16 to 13.”
“Never knew this but Mulaney was given an instant 16 episode order when it was picked up. However production has finished on the 13th episode and it has been now been confirmed that FOX have reduced the order from 16 to 13.”
So, cancellation by stealth! They've effectively stopped production of the show in it's tracks - convenient they'd just wrapped on episode 13! However, it sounds like it could be a low importance spot-filler for the foreseeable future, until those 13 episodes have aired. Fox's woes are only just starting, I think - if they're trying to delay the inevitable like this, but don't have the shows to take it's place.
In better news, B99 is doing really well. Those numbers are really strong (they may, of course, get adjusted for the earlier football, but I think they'll still be healthy).
FOX has plenty of shows that could replace Mulaney like Bordertown, Last Man on Earth or Weird Loners
Beauty and the Beast going on and on is turning into a long running joke at this point 
It would seriously annoy me though if shows like The 100 and even Jane the Virgin got cancelled over it.
It would seriously annoy me though if shows like The 100 and even Jane the Virgin got cancelled over it.
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“FOX has plenty of shows that could replace Mulaney like Bordertown, Last Man on Earth or Weird Loners”
“FOX has plenty of shows that could replace Mulaney like Bordertown, Last Man on Earth or Weird Loners”
They do but it all depends how many episodes they have in the can themselves
Mulaney will likely be replaced with reruns if cancelled and doesn't air it's remaining episodes.
Does shock me though. Nearly 8 weeks into the new television season and not a single cancellation. That's unheard of.
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“They do but it all depends how many episodes they have in the can themselves
Mulaney will likely be replaced with reruns if cancelled and doesn't air it's remaining episodes.”
“They do but it all depends how many episodes they have in the can themselves
Mulaney will likely be replaced with reruns if cancelled and doesn't air it's remaining episodes.”
I doubt most productions have as many episodes completed as Mulaney did. 13 episodes filmed by early October is pretty high, even for a half hour comedy. They must have been ahead of the curve to get that far into their season. Reruns are less damaging to a network, because whatever numbers are achieved are essentially dismissed by commentators as not counting.
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Does shock me though. Nearly 8 weeks into the new television season and not a single cancellation. That's unheard of.”
“Does shock me though. Nearly 8 weeks into the new television season and not a single cancellation. That's unheard of.”
It is strange isn't it? It's like a game of chicken now, as to who folds first. Fox has basically cancelled stuff without actually cancelling! Utopia had a 2 slot schedule that allowed them to stuff the show on a Friday night, and so avoid actual cancellation. Mulaney's production has been stopped, but it looks like (for now) it stays on the air. For Fox, Gracepoint is the first one I can see they will be forced to drop out of the schedule entirely. There's no sugar coating for that one, IMO. The other networks also don't have too many ways to disguise their cancellations - maybe CBS will use the end of the football Thursdays this week to push around a few of their failing shows, at the same time as moving some of their big shows (TBBT) to different nights. Mind you, they're one of the only networks that doesn't have too many major problems with their new or returning shows.
Monday ratings http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...n-flat/317567/
Jane
It will probably adjust down but for it to hold its entire audience is still great!
The Voice appears to be in decline.
Jane
It will probably adjust down but for it to hold its entire audience is still great!The Voice appears to be in decline.
I expect a full season order for Scorpion soon
Great return for the millers and Jane seems to be holding well.
Great return for the millers and Jane seems to be holding well.
Originally Posted by dizzie:
“I doubt most productions have as many episodes completed as Mulaney did. 13 episodes filmed by early October is pretty high, even for a half hour comedy. They must have been ahead of the curve to get that far into their season. Reruns are less damaging to a network, because whatever numbers are achieved are essentially dismissed by commentators as not counting.
It is strange isn't it? It's like a game of chicken now, as to who folds first. Fox has basically cancelled stuff without actually cancelling! Utopia had a 2 slot schedule that allowed them to stuff the show on a Friday night, and so avoid actual cancellation. Mulaney's production has been stopped, but it looks like (for now) it stays on the air. For Fox, Gracepoint is the first one I can see they will be forced to drop out of the schedule entirely. There's no sugar coating for that one, IMO. The other networks also don't have too many ways to disguise their cancellations - maybe CBS will use the end of the football Thursdays this week to push around a few of their failing shows, at the same time as moving some of their big shows (TBBT) to different nights. Mind you, they're one of the only networks that doesn't have too many major problems with their new or returning shows.”
“I doubt most productions have as many episodes completed as Mulaney did. 13 episodes filmed by early October is pretty high, even for a half hour comedy. They must have been ahead of the curve to get that far into their season. Reruns are less damaging to a network, because whatever numbers are achieved are essentially dismissed by commentators as not counting.
It is strange isn't it? It's like a game of chicken now, as to who folds first. Fox has basically cancelled stuff without actually cancelling! Utopia had a 2 slot schedule that allowed them to stuff the show on a Friday night, and so avoid actual cancellation. Mulaney's production has been stopped, but it looks like (for now) it stays on the air. For Fox, Gracepoint is the first one I can see they will be forced to drop out of the schedule entirely. There's no sugar coating for that one, IMO. The other networks also don't have too many ways to disguise their cancellations - maybe CBS will use the end of the football Thursdays this week to push around a few of their failing shows, at the same time as moving some of their big shows (TBBT) to different nights. Mind you, they're one of the only networks that doesn't have too many major problems with their new or returning shows.”
I agree. CBS haven't really had any flops so far. Madam Secretary's rating are a bit meh but it will likely last the whole season.
I still think FOX may air all the episodes for gracepoint, purely because 10 were ordered anyway. I don't know to be honest. FOX are in such a mess.
I predict Forever and Manhattan love story for ABC's cancellations
A-Z for NBC
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I agree. CBS haven't really had any flops so far. Madam Secretary's rating are a bit meh but it will likely last the whole season.
I still think FOX may air all the episodes for gracepoint, purely because 10 were ordered anyway. I don't know to be honest. FOX are in such a mess.”
“I agree. CBS haven't really had any flops so far. Madam Secretary's rating are a bit meh but it will likely last the whole season.
I still think FOX may air all the episodes for gracepoint, purely because 10 were ordered anyway. I don't know to be honest. FOX are in such a mess.”
I'd much prefer Gracepoint to see out it's 'limited series' - I still can't figure out quite what that means. It seems to be a way of having something with a lower episode count come in and out of the TV schedule, and it never officially gets cancelled, because it was 'limited' to start with. I guess Gracepoint's survival may rest on Fox taking Utopia off the air, and allowing GP to move to that Friday slot to see out the rest of it's episodes. The timeshift figures aren't actually totally terrible, so it may just about prop itself up on a Friday. Utopia is such a deep pile of sh*te, it needs to be killed off asap! GP is actually a quality drama that has been scuppered by horrible scheduling, not great press, and having to follow so soon on the heels of a US broadcast of the original UK show, plus the lead actor being compared unfavourably to himself no less! It has everything against it, really!
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I predict Forever and Manhattan love story for ABC's cancellations
A-Z for NBC”
“I predict Forever and Manhattan love story for ABC's cancellations
A-Z for NBC”
I'm astonished that Selfie got an increased script order - but I guess they've got to keep something, and the other two on ABC are just awful! A-Z is a no-brainer for NBC. Bad Judge would be the other one I'd say would go (I quite like it), but I'd prefer it to be The Mysteries of Laura - I tried to watch that one, it's terrible, and not funny at all!
Reign's the easy answer for CW's first cancellation, and it's a toss up if Jane The Virgin will make it to full season. They may decide to air a full season, but I think it's a one-season wonder!
The Flash and Jane the virgin both given full season renewals
My guess of A-Z being cancelled is because I think it is rated lower than Bad judge. I am not sure
My guess of A-Z being cancelled is because I think it is rated lower than Bad judge. I am not sure
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“The Flash and Jane the virgin both given full season renewals
My guess of A-Z being cancelled is because I think it is rated lower than Bad judge. I am not sure”
“The Flash and Jane the virgin both given full season renewals
My guess of A-Z being cancelled is because I think it is rated lower than Bad judge. I am not sure”
I don't think they've been renewed - you mean full season order? No brainer for The Flash - I mean, duh! - but good to see them sticking with JtV. Mind you, in BatB's old slot, the only way was up - and as it beat those terrible ratings from last season (0.2 at times!), I guess they had to show faith and keep it to full season.
Jane adjusted down two tenths in the finals, disappointing but not entirely unexpected given the preemptions. Hopefully it can rebound next week.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...d-down/317499/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...d-down/317499/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...t-flat/318037/
A decline for About a boy.
I scratch my head on why POI isn't doing as well as it once was. 1.5 is a massive decline as what season 1-3 earned.
But then i don't see cancellation in my cards though.
A decline for About a boy.
I scratch my head on why POI isn't doing as well as it once was. 1.5 is a massive decline as what season 1-3 earned.
But then i don't see cancellation in my cards though.
Jesus, what on earth has happened to About A Boy! Why do people just hate comedy on NBC? Good that Forever was up (hope it doesn't adjust down!), hopefully it can stay, I reckon a 1.2 is enough for a renewal, especially when you see other shows doing worse, get that 2nd season Forever!
Early Tuesday ratings:
CBS:
NCIS- 16.88m (2.4)
NCIA NO- 15.87m (2.4)
Person of Interest- 9.26m (1.5)
NBC:
The Voice- 11.50m (3.1)
Marry Me- 6.07m (1.9)
About a Boy- 4.89m (1.4)
Chicago Fire- 7.43m (1.9)
ABC:
Selfie- 3.81m (1.1)
Manhattan Love Story- 2.65m (0.7)
SHIELD- 4.29m (1.5)
Forever- 4.80m (1.2)
FOX:
World Series- 10.68m (2.9)
CW:
The Flash- 3.38m (1.4)
Supernatural- 2.10m (0.9)
Early Tuesday ratings:
CBS:
NCIS- 16.88m (2.4)
NCIA NO- 15.87m (2.4)
Person of Interest- 9.26m (1.5)
NBC:
The Voice- 11.50m (3.1)
Marry Me- 6.07m (1.9)
About a Boy- 4.89m (1.4)
Chicago Fire- 7.43m (1.9)
ABC:
Selfie- 3.81m (1.1)
Manhattan Love Story- 2.65m (0.7)
SHIELD- 4.29m (1.5)
Forever- 4.80m (1.2)
FOX:
World Series- 10.68m (2.9)
CW:
The Flash- 3.38m (1.4)
Supernatural- 2.10m (0.9)
Looking at that 1.2 it looks like a certain cancellation, but really it's only a few tenths behind SHIELD so perhaps it can be given another chance.
I found about a boy boring. The concept of a man who befriends a young boy and both find themselves improving each other's lives can go a very short way in my opinion.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Looking at that 1.2 it looks like a certain cancellation, but really it's only a few tenths behind SHIELD so perhaps it can be given another chance.”
“Looking at that 1.2 it looks like a certain cancellation, but really it's only a few tenths behind SHIELD so perhaps it can be given another chance.”
I cant say I know much about US programme timings, but to me Forever simply seems like its on too late. 21.00 I could get, but 22.00 seems a wrong fit for the format and the network that the network hasn't any confidence in it from day one.
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