Jesus Christ. She's hardly old. She's 29. And she looks younger.

Supergirl would be a runaway success on The CW. It's fall does surprise me though.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/rat...mber-2015.html
A rise for SVU. A small rise for Code Black. Empire wins the night as usual.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/rat...mber-2015.html
Strong comeback for 2 Broke Girls. Elementary continues to flop.

They've gone in the wrong direction with Elementary, they made it too much about his addiction and it has become very self indulgent and maudlin. A bit of a downer to watch.

Elementary's downfall just adds to a few other declines of CBS's shows

The Good Wife, Cyber, Hawaii Five O and NCIS: LA are all bad performers as well. Criminal Minds has taken a hit, Madam Secretary is very inconsistent. Plus the newborn Code Black is doing poorly.

The Good Wife, Hawaii Five O, NCIS LA and Criminal Minds decreases can all be blamed on the fact they have been going a while and seem to be running out of steam.

Madam Secretary should be doing OK IMO, but probably suffers from stiff competition on the night.

Code Black I haven't seen as I couldn't face another medical drama, that's why I am avoiding Chicago Med too.

I know they are decreasing due to being on the air for a while. That is perfectly normal. But The Good Wife managed a 0.9 the other week. It can barely manage anything above a 1.1. It has been doing poorly since season 5 but got worse last season. NCIS: LA has hit 1.1 a few times this season as well. They are performing well below average.

The ratings meant this was coming. Wicked City axed after just 3 episodes!

http://deadline.com/2015/11/wicked-c...bc-1201622539/

2 Broke Girls adjusted down 1.6
Life In Pieces adjusted down to 1.8
Elementary adjusted down to 0.8

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/rat...mber-2015.html
Reign saw a rise. Undateble cancelled doing their live episode at the very last minute, as a sign of respect following the events in France. Grimm hit a low.

I didn't realise Undateable had been cancelled (just for last night).

There is talk about Quantico not going out too, I also wonder if Homeland will be shown tomorrow.

Yeah, i can't see Quantico and Homeland airing this week.

I think Showtime will go ahead with Homeland simply because it needs to finish by December 20th and they can't double up because The Affair is also 12 episodes as well.

CBS have confirmed they will be airing different episodes of Supergirl and NCS: LA tomorrow.

Homeland was broadcast as normal on Channel 4 yesterday, although I admit I was doubtful. I guess the actual content of the episode was deemed as acceptable.

Homeland and Quantico were both shown in the USA as usual.

I tried catching up on Madam Secretary - the episode shown on the Sunday before last (i.e. before Paris) - and I just could not. It featured a Jihadi John type character beheading an American. I didn't know what to expect so it came as a bit of a shock, but after about 5 - 8 mins into the episode I just couldn't watch it. I switched off. I really doubt CBS would've shown it if the Paris killings had taken place on that particular weekend.

Shows like MS are likely to capture real life events but its unfortunate when they capture similar events that happen when they have filmed the episodes in advance and then a horrible situation happens that mirrors it. Buffy did an episode about a student planning on killing everyone in the school, but it was shelved as days before, the columbine massacre happened. The episode never aired until 4 months later. But because it was a standalone episode and had no connection to the season's story-lines, it never affected continuity. It's second part of the season three finale was also delayed for about two months as it featured students being attacked and killed by a horrible demonic creature during graduation.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/rat...mber-2015.html
The Simpsons scores very well for a repeat.

LM, there was a question you posed up thread about Quantico: why it didn't get higher ratings, and you wondered whether it was down to a poor lead-in show like Blood & Oil or to the show not capturing the viewers' interest. Blood & Oil didn't air last night and Quantico still registered a 1.3, a figure below the 1.6 it was averaging a couple of weeks back. OAUT came in at 1.6, a far higher figure than Blood & Oil has ever managed, but still Quantico came in with lower ratings. Personally, I've always believed that the problem wasn't to do with the lead-in but with the show itself. While it is not a bad show, but there are other shows that do what it tries to do only better. Mind you, it does get a real slating on metacritic among the audience.

I think you could be right. Thanks for remembering what I said.

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I won't

It hasn't been a total flop. Its numbers haven't been substantially worse than Jane The Virgin and like Jane it has received strong critical praise which is part of the reason The CW picked the show up in the first place. Understanding that Monday night isn't really working commercially for them they wanted to try and angle Monday as a prestige night for them. You also have to factor in the various other elements that overtly come into play with CW decisions. At this point I don't think its dead.


I very much disagree with it being the wrong actress. The extent to which Supergirl has worked to date has been almost entirely down to Melissa Benoist. She's been fantastic throughout the series to date.


I'm not entirely sure that's what the facts suggest.

Its worth remembering that Agents of SHIELD, Gotham and Supergirl all pulled in big numbers to begin with which is suggestive of there being high audience interest in these shows. Even Constantine got off to a decent-ish start (for a Friday series). The issue that needs to be looked at is why these shows can't hold onto that audience going forward and I think for the most part that can be laid at the feet of the shows themselves. Gotham and Agents of SHIELD for example were both terrible shows during their first seasons and in truth neither has become especially great since. Constantine was another show that simply wasn't very good. Its telling that The CW shows are the only ones that have really held their numbers because they're largely the only ones that are especially good although I have to confess I finding Supergirl relatively enjoyable to date and the size of its drop has surprised me somewhat.

Of course the other thing that might be worth taking into account on this point is the expectations game. And by this I mean the audience expectations of these shows. In hindsight Agents of SHIELD was never going to be anything other than a disappointment for audiences because there's simply no way it was going to have the budget or production schedule to match the Marvel films and ultimately that's what people wanted. I suspect Supergirl may have similar problems in that people want a big bold blockbuster but that's never really going to be delivered on television at least not broadcast television. In contrast to that I suspect people tend to just have lower expectations for a show that airs on The CW therefore its not quite held to the same standard which is ironic given that The CW shows are by far the best superhero offerings on broadcast television.