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Old 08-10-2013, 18:53
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So I'm thinking of ditching EE - I just wondered who offered unlimited calls and over 3GB data reasonably? It looks like Vodafone under their 4G package are doing some good offers?

Unfortunately it has to have a mix of 2G and 3G as I live in a rural area so Three is ruled out.
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:03
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Have you actually tried Three, as their rural coverage is amazing sometimes.
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:04
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Have you actually tried Three, as their rural coverage is amazing sometimes.
Well they don't offer 2G - which is what I need unfortunately.
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:18
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Well they don't offer 2G - which is what I need unfortunately.
Why do you need 2G if they have 3G coverage?
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:19
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Why do you need 2G if they have 3G coverage?
They don't provide 3G coverage here...
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:22
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They don't provide 3G coverage here...
But have you checked?

Also how much over 3GB do you need?
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:26
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But have you checked?

Also how much over 3GB do you need?
They'll do it in my town but I do a lot of commuting and need coverage for parts of that journey.

My average is about 3.5GB according to EE.
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:39
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They'll do it in my town but I do a lot of commuting and need coverage for parts of that journey.

My average is about 3.5GB according to EE.
I've found Three do be great along all my commutes. Tbh Three are actually a very good option if you travel a lot. I suggest trying out a pay as you go SIM. You may be impressed.

Here are your options-

Virgin 3G- 15pm
Unlimited Calls/Unlimited Texts and 3.5GB Data

Three 3G/4G- 15pm
2000 Mins, 5000 Texts & Unl Data + Tethering

T-Mobile 3G- 21pm
2000 Mins, 5000 Texts & Unl Data (No tethering)
(50 cashback= 16.70pm)

Vodafone 4G- 26pm
Unlimited Mins/Texts & 6GB Data
(157 Cashback= 7.90pm)
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:53
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Lets put it this way, I've travelled from Welsh valleys right through to Norfolk (not in one go) streaming music via TuneIn on 3G from Three, and from Saltash through to the Peaks, again no issues on many roads. It isn't as good when you get to really remote areas of Scotland, but most rural areas have Three coverage when travelling.
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:54
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Lets put it this way, I've travelled from Welsh valleys right through to Norfolk (not in one go) streaming music via TuneIn on 3G from Three, and from Saltash through to the Peaks, again no issues on many roads. It isn't as good when you get to really remote areas of Scotland, but most rural areas have Three coverage when travelling.
Without 3G on Three are you unable to make calls? Assume so?
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Old 08-10-2013, 19:58
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Without 3G on Three are you unable to make calls? Assume so?
Three still have limited 2G backup in rural/remote areas.

Like i said, don't stereotype and try Three for yourself. It's the best network in the UK by far if you're a heavy data user.
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Old 08-10-2013, 20:04
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Three still have limited 2G backup in rural/remote areas.

Like i said, don't stereotype and try Three for yourself. It's the best network in the UK by far if you're a heavy data user.
Eventually even lack of 2G won't matter if the rollout of 4G is 98% like it is meant to be.

It sad that Three have got such a bad reputation for coverage when it really isn't true anymore.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:08
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It sad that Three have got such a bad reputation for coverage when it really isn't true anymore.
I always thought Three's reputation for poor coverage was unfair even in the early days. Pre mbnl they always had more 3G coverage than anyone else as the business case for them was different (having to pay for 2G roaming). Combine the best 3G coverage with full access to either O2 or Orange's 2G network and it's hard to understand why they got that rep. The only thing I can think of is because the 3G to 2G roaming wasn't seamless people perceived dropped calls when moving from 3G to 2G roaming areas as poor coverage.

Even today, whilst EE may have more 3G coverage in theory when you count the still active Orange sites, given the amount of time my own EE phone seems to be spend on 2G these days even in areas where there is perfectly good 3G coverage, perceived 3G coverage on Three probably looks better than EE as Three will stick to 3G with nothing else available whilst my EE phone will often change to 2G and stay there unless I lock it down to 3G.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:26
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I always thought Three's reputation for poor coverage was unfair even in the early days. Pre mbnl they always had more 3G coverage than anyone else as the business case for them was different (having to pay for 2G roaming). Combine the best 3G coverage with full access to either O2 or Orange's 2G network and it's hard to understand why they got that rep. The only thing I can think of is because the 3G to 2G roaming wasn't seamless people perceived dropped calls when moving from 3G to 2G roaming areas as poor coverage.

Even today, whilst EE may have more 3G coverage in theory when you count the still active Orange sites, given the amount of time my own EE phone seems to be spend on 2G these days even in areas where there is perfectly good 3G coverage, perceived 3G coverage on Three probably looks better than EE as Three will stick to 3G with nothing else available whilst my EE phone will often change to 2G and stay there unless I lock it down to 3G.
I didn't know that I joined Three back in 07/08 on pay as you go was pretty decent coverage then struggled in rural a bit. Obviously it come on leaps and bounds since then with Vodafone and O2 not really changing at all. Even 3G900 hasn't changed there coverage an awful lot least in rural areas it across a fair amount of cities now.

That is so true my friend is on EE and we can stand in same place and I can get 15 mbs speeds [So DC-HSDPA mast] and his phone will be on GPRS or EDGE. I have no idea why it happens as surely they would want more people on 3G instead of 2G. It is nice having a 2G backup in buildings but I prefer the 3G everywhere that Three offers can't wait till 4G on Three comes across majority of UK by end of next year should increase indoor coverage a lot at least in cities. Rural areas obviously going take another year.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:28
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Three still have limited 2G backup in rural/remote areas.

Like i said, don't stereotype and try Three for yourself. It's the best network in the UK by far if you're a heavy data user.
OP I would try a couple of PAYG sim cards, you can get them from the networks for free if you google them, then maybe top up a small amount just to test them for a bit.

You won't beat 3 for data speeds, coverage and allowance, and you might even find their coverage is good enough for what you need. You could also try some of the others too to compare.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:35
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perceived 3G coverage on Three probably looks better than EE as Three will stick to 3G with nothing else available whilst my EE phone will often change to 2G and stay there unless I lock it down to 3G.
Yes, I reckon Three have an advantage here. You can run on 1 bar or 'twigs' on the old Nokia parlance, where EE/V/O2 would have moved to 2G.

V/O2 suffer from a configuration issue I think, where their SIMs prefer 2G and don't move back to 3G automatically fast enough at all, so you might need to reboot phone/airplane mode to force a V/O2 handset to rediscover 3G. Hopefully they're fixing this as 3G has much more capacity for voice as well as the obvious benefits for data.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:38
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Yes, I reckon Three have an advantage here. You can run on 1 bar or 'twigs' on the old Nokia parlance, where EE/V/O2 would have moved to 2G.

V/O2 suffer from a configuration issue I think, where their SIMs prefer 2G and don't move back to 3G automatically fast enough at all, so you might need to reboot phone/airplane mode to force a V/O2 handset to rediscover 3G. Hopefully they're fixing this as 3G has much more capacity for voice as well as the obvious benefits for data.
I don't think O2 or Vodafone have HD Voice do they? Though with O2 even normal 3G voice would be amazing increase in quality. Right about data of course.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:42
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I don't think O2 or Vodafone have HD Voice do they?
correct. Voice quality is far superior on EE and Three anyway. O2 is by far the worst.

@Japaul- I thought Orange had the best 3G coverage pre MBNL.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:48
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I don't think O2 or Vodafone have HD Voice do they? Though with O2 even normal 3G voice would be amazing increase in quality. Right about data of course.
Correct, O2 is horrendous, but vodafone's 2G and 3G voice quality is pretty good.

HD Voice is excellent on the EE brands, and it would be really good if they could extend this to interoperate with Three.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:50
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correct. Voice quality is far superior on EE and Three anyway. O2 is by far the worst.

@Japaul- I thought Orange had the best 3G coverage pre MBNL.
Correct, O2 is horrendous, but vodafone's 2G and 3G voice quality is pretty good.

HD Voice is excellent on the EE brands, and it would be really good if they could extend this to interoperate with Three.
Yeah O2 really does sound like two tin cans and a piece of string. You can always tell when someone rings in on Radio if they on O2 as you always struggle like hell to hear them. Vodafone is certainly better I agree,

I think HD Voice will when VoLTE comes in but would be nice for it work across 3G networks as well as 4G networks.
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:55
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I think HD Voice will when VoLTE comes in but would be nice for it work across 3G networks as well as 4G networks.
I can see networks exchanging voice as IP data with VoLTE which should allow for better audio - but they might just convert all audio back to telephone signals for interconnect. Who knows until someone launches VoLTE.

(I suspect Three, as they could have issues with data/no audio with their 4G rollout otherwise).
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Old 08-10-2013, 22:59
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Yes, I reckon Three have an advantage here. You can run on 1 bar or 'twigs' on the old Nokia parlance, where EE/V/O2 would have moved to 2G.

V/O2 suffer from a configuration issue I think, where their SIMs prefer 2G and don't move back to 3G automatically fast enough at all, so you might need to reboot phone/airplane mode to force a V/O2 handset to rediscover 3G. Hopefully they're fixing this as 3G has much more capacity for voice as well as the obvious benefits for data.
My issue is more with EE. IME Voda/O2 seem to do what I expect mostly. TBH I'd be perfectly happy if EE was handing over when there was 1 or 2 bars as I would want any call to be as solid as possible. However what i don't like is it shifting to 2G when not on call or not shifting back to 3G after a call even though there is a good 3G signal. Locking it to 3G shows that there is a good 3G signal and Three phones are absolutely fine. Maybe it's 3G congestion so EE that's deliberately shifting it. However what I find even more surprising is that this is happening in EE's double speed 4G areas. It is my understanding that in the double speed areas, EE phones should be more likely to use 3G and make less use of 2G as the network parameters have been altered due to the need to manage the 2G traffic within less spectrum (EE still have a lot of traffic on 2G).
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Old 08-10-2013, 23:03
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correct. Voice quality is far superior on EE and Three anyway. O2 is by far the worst.

@Japaul- I thought Orange had the best 3G coverage pre MBNL.
Me and misses always get HD voice calls when we call each other, both on Three and using iphone 5's. Its amazing, its like they are in the room with you
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Old 08-10-2013, 23:10
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Me and misses always get HD voice calls when we call each other, both on Three and using iphone 5's. Its amazing, its like they are in the room with you
I know what you mean, I was shocked the first time, I had my first HD Voice call. I thought it was all talk but it truly isn't difference is a fair bit. I think it clearer than my old landline was.
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Old 08-10-2013, 23:23
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@Japaul- I thought Orange had the best 3G coverage pre MBNL.
Take your pick from the end of 2008!
http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binari...erage_maps.pdf

Three and Orange were close and much better than Voda/O2/T-Mob. I think Three still edged it over the entire period and in any case at that point they were HSDPA where as Orange still had loads of original R99 3G (even Voda had long been 100% HSDPA by then).
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