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Flash voting will stop a Maloney/Eggnog from coming far again...
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fireemblemcraze
08-10-2013
I'll explain - what does flash voting involve? An app.

Who is more likely to have this app - older or younger demographics? Some older adults will do and use it effectively but younger demographics are far more likely to have it and use it effectively. Also will anti-XF voters really download an XF app to vote? Thus we've already eliminated a bit of the older demographic vote and the anti-XF vote. Also if the app and voting is free, children and such can use it without hesitation from parents. Also it encourages the more active XF fandom to vote rather than the more passive casual viewer, to have the XF app in the first place (the 'am I bovered' sort of personality) or be bothered to vote in the first 10 minutes.

Thus when the first bottom 2 contestant is revealed with the flash vote, it'll reflect the targeted interested younger demographic's votes rather than the nation's on the whole. The second bottom 2 contestant which will be voted for based on the normal XF voting will be more representative of the whole nation not just the targeted XF population, so that will still be normal. But this way if you have loads of younger demographic (and some of the older demographic too) appealing acts and the odd mainly granny magnet (Eggnog, Maloney), then the granny magnet will definitely have a much greater chance of landing in the bottom 2 from the quick 10 minute first vote.

It was quite clever of the producers to introduce this actually. Especially if people forget to vote in a particular way (like last year when the producers tried getting people to vote straight after their fav act rather than waiting till the end and seeing all of them - this behaviour was soon forgotten after the novelty of the new voting system was introduced and people would vote at the end again like they always used to). So if they forget to vote/delay voting, then that first bottom 2 contestant will not be decided by their votes (they'll vote as how they normally vote - on Sunday morning or at the beginning of Sunday's show, not in the 10 minute interval).
Hassaan13
08-10-2013
Wouldn't kids have voted for Eoghan though?
abcd
08-10-2013
im lost, who has said that this flash vote will be done using the app?
theres no way they will lose there phone vote money
fireemblemcraze
08-10-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Wouldn't kids have voted for Eoghan though?”

Ok not explicitly Eoghan or Chris. The point is that the producers will get a vote from the public from the more XF liker, younger targeted demographic.
JustArun
08-10-2013
I don't know I think it'll help the boy groups more, to be completely honest.
PrincessTT
08-10-2013
I thought the flash vote was being done by opening the phone lines for 10 minutes? Who said it was being done via the app?
LemonadeMouth
08-10-2013
Now the voting is back to opening after the last act performs looks like the last act could consistently be in the top 3.
abcd
08-10-2013
Flash Voting Has Nothing To Do With The X Factor App
Convict
08-10-2013
Maloney was popular because he sang good, classic songs really well. It's not just the trendy, urban acts that people are allowed to vote for you know!!
earldbest
09-10-2013
Originally Posted by Convict:
“Maloney was popular because he sang good, classic songs really well. It's not just the trendy, urban acts that people are allowed to vote for you know!!”

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Jazziii
09-10-2013
Nicholas falls in this catergory of older/younger people voting for him yet don't see him being affected by Flash Vote till like Week 4
mysty211
09-10-2013
Yeah the flash vote is with the phone lines not the app.
abcd
09-10-2013
Pointless inaccurate thread
misslibertine
09-10-2013
So... thread is pointless?
fireemblemcraze
09-10-2013
Originally Posted by misslibertine:
“So... thread is pointless?”

Ok

1) The guy above you has just said that - have you not read it? Don't understand why you and abcd especially keep bumping the thread? Abcd has repeated himself/herself now in three posts - don't understand the extra effort to prove himself/herself right? A bit desperate...
2) And no I got it wrong the flash voting has nothing to do with the app.
3) HOWEVER abcd clearly hasn't read the entire argument because the original argument that the 200 seconds will encourage the more interested active viewers XF fandom who actually watch on the show on a Sat night instead of recording it/casual viewers/on the fence viewers/anti-XF viewers will still stand.
Last Request
09-10-2013
TV Times say Nicholas is a younger Christopher Maloney.
earldbest
09-10-2013
Originally Posted by Last Request:
“TV Times say Nicholas is a younger Christopher Maloney.”

So he's the worst act?
fireemblemcraze
09-10-2013
Originally Posted by earldbest:
“So he's the worst act?”

Not worst, just cringey, OTT emotional, cheesy performances. The singing's alright (not nearly as good as people make it out to be), the first section of 'If You're Not the One' was terrible.
Jazziii
09-10-2013
Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Not worst, just cringey, OTT emotional, cheesy performances. The singing's alright (not nearly as good as people make it out to be), the first section of 'If You're Not the One' was terrible.”

I love how Union Js fanbase HATED Chris but actually support Nicholas it's a bit ... Weird but having that fanbase also mean he may not do that well as their fanbase was smaller than people thought ... GIRLIE vote NEVER wins
misslibertine
10-10-2013
Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Ok

1) The guy above you has just said that - have you not read it? Don't understand why you and abcd especially keep bumping the thread? Abcd has repeated himself/herself now in three posts - don't understand the extra effort to prove himself/herself right? A bit desperate...
2) And no I got it wrong the flash voting has nothing to do with the app.
3) HOWEVER abcd clearly hasn't read the entire argument because the original argument that the 200 seconds will encourage the more interested active viewers XF fandom who actually watch on the show on a Sat night instead of recording it/casual viewers/on the fence viewers/anti-XF viewers will still stand.”

1) I'm free to comment saying whatever I wish.
2) Err.. that's it.
Nastyman69
10-10-2013
Irrelevant thread
abcd
10-10-2013
OP should actually consider the facts before posting next time.
misslibertine
10-10-2013
Originally Posted by abcd:
“OP should actually consider the facts before posting next time.”

We must stop bumping the thread with our comments abcd, the OP doesn't like it...
wise-up
10-10-2013
I think the flash voting will help acts like that as their fans would be young kids/old people mostly who sit in to watch the show and will be around to vote at the time. Whereas acts like James A, Alex B, Tamera etc appeal to 18-25 year olds who may be out partying or working so watch on catch up and cant take part in the flash vote, therefore, the acts like this which are likely to sell the most after the show will actually be the ones who suffer.
piggypug
10-10-2013
Originally Posted by Convict:
“Maloney was popular because he sang good, classic songs really well. It's not just the trendy, urban acts that people are allowed to vote for you know!!”

Nope..
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