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So what will happen if it goes to deadlock ?
With this new Flash Vote system what will happen if it goes to deadlock ?
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I'd say Simon gets to decide by skype. I don't think the X Factor app idea would be a good idea as it's not used by enough people to be such a big part of the show.
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Apparently whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home, which I hope isn't true because not only is it unfair to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night, but it will remove all the tension from the judges vote because Dermot will now be saying 'if you opt to send home X, the vote will be tied and Y will be leaving the competition as they lost the Flash Vote'...how anti-climatic. Doubt there'd be any need to even call it 'deadlock' either so there'll be no booming noises and flashy red lights anymore
I really think this Flash Vote idea may suck the life out of the results show and I think they're hoping it's going to achieve the opposite |
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The guest performers decide.
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Originally Posted by Jackk;69120969[B
]Apparently whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home[/b], which I hope isn't true because not only is it unfair to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night, but it will remove all the tension from the judges vote because Dermot will now be saying 'if you opt to send home X, the vote will be tied and Y will be leaving the competition as they lost the Flash Vote'...how anti-climatic. Doubt there'd be any need to even call it 'deadlock' either so there'll be no booming noises and flashy red lights anymore
I really think this Flash Vote idea may suck the life out of the results show and I think they're hoping it's going to achieve the opposite |
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I actually think it'd be fun for them to rip off Fame Academy's idea and if it goes to deadlock have the other acts vote one of them off. Imagine the drama
![]() Then if that vote is tied, send the Flash Vote loser home |
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The flash vote act goes home? Surely they won't do this every week as they wouldn't have enough weeks of the competition.
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I don't get what you mean? There's still a sing-off for both members of the bottom two (Flash Vote loser and 24 hour vote loser) but apparently if the judges vote goes to deadlock, whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home. That's what I'm saying is unfair, because to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night is a bit silly. And anti-climatic...because a tied judges vote will have an obvious outcome from the outset.
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I don't get what you mean? There's still a sing-off for both members of the bottom two (Flash Vote loser and 24 hour vote loser) but apparently if the judges vote goes to deadlock, whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home. That's what I'm saying is unfair, because to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night is a bit silly. And anti-climatic...because a tied judges vote will have an obvious outcome from the outset.
I think it's going to be a bit of a messy system, to be honest. It would be better if they reopened the lines for the ad break once we know who the bottom 2 are, although maybe they don't think people would want to vote twice. Though they could always make it a free vote (something I really think they should have introduced ages ago.) Failing that they could do a studio audience vote, or as someone says go to Simon on satellite - though I'm not a big fan of that idea as it will obviously be manipulated to keep in the acts he wants to sign. But I honestly don't know what the point of the flash vote is. It all seems a bit cruel. |
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Has the show released details regarding the new scheme? Based on what's known so far, it seems like no one gave good thought about it.
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I agree, and it seems to give the third judge voting a lot of power - which they may not want. Assuming that on most weeks, it's two acts from two different categories in the bottom 2, the mentors will always save their own act, but if the third judge opts to save the act that lost the 24 hour vote instead of the flash vote, the flash vote loser will automatically go home. Therefore we'll probably see a lot of third votes being played tactically as the judges won't want to come across as the bad guy that sends someone home without being forced into it, so will save the flash vote loser most of the time unless it's a really clear-cut decision on who should go home.
I think it's going to be a bit of a messy system, to be honest. It would be better if they reopened the lines for the ad break once we know who the bottom 2 are, although maybe they don't think people would want to vote twice. Though they could always make it a free vote (something I really think they should have introduced ages ago.) Failing that they could do a studio audience vote, or as someone says go to Simon on satellite - though I'm not a big fan of that idea as it will obviously be manipulated to keep in the acts he wants to sign. But I honestly don't know what the point of the flash vote is. It all seems a bit cruel. There's always been tension with the results, the judges vote and the potential of a deadlock, and it's been one of my favourite parts of the show. 8:50 - 9:00 onwards on a Sunday night was one of my TV highlights of the week, but now with the idea of deadlock essentially removed, I honestly think a lot of the results are going to feel very anti-climatic and obvious. This just hasn't been thought through enough. They've obviously thought 'we need to keep people interested in the Saturday show and give them a reason to stay in and watch to save their favourite' (another thing that's unfair with this, cause people who go out and watch on Sunday afternoon won't be able to vote), but the problem is is that Sunday's show is going to suffer. What would have been better is to keep last year's system (which proved to be much better and fairer cause it largely got rid of the curse and benefit of the death and pimp slots) of opening the lines before the performances, having a vote freeze at the end of Saturday's show and then announcing the first bottom two act. At least then these deadlock rules would actually be sort of fair. I really hope there's some kind of public backlash over this new voting system and that they experience technical difficulties and it's scrapped after a few weeks. It's going to put a downer on the result IMO. |
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This is a very good point I wish they wasn't doing this flash vote thing I think it's pointless and not very fair.
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They should just scrap the flash vote thing .
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They should just scrap the flash vote thing .
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Apparently whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home, which I hope isn't true because not only is it unfair to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night, but it will remove all the tension from the judges vote because Dermot will now be saying 'if you opt to send home X, the vote will be tied and Y will be leaving the competition as they lost the Flash Vote'...how anti-climatic. Doubt there'd be any need to even call it 'deadlock' either so there'll be no booming noises and flashy red lights anymore
I really think this Flash Vote idea may suck the life out of the results show and I think they're hoping it's going to achieve the opposite As far as i no they have yet to release how deadlock will work |
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where you getting the flash vote act would go home if went to deadlock??? as if that is the case you may aswell just send the flash vote act home straight away.
As far as i no they have yet to release how deadlock will work What I'm saying is that if it is indeed true that the Flash Vote loser goes home in the event of a deadlock, that's not only unfair but totally anti-climatic and is going to ruin the judges vote. |
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Apparently whoever lost the Flash Vote goes home, which I hope isn't true because not only is it unfair to resolve a deadlock on a ten minute vote from the previous night, but it will remove all the tension from the judges vote because Dermot will now be saying 'if you opt to send home X, the vote will be tied and Y will be leaving the competition as they lost the Flash Vote'...how anti-climatic. Doubt there'd be any need to even call it 'deadlock' either so there'll be no booming noises and flashy red lights anymore
I really think this Flash Vote idea may suck the life out of the results show and I think they're hoping it's going to achieve the opposite Is it a good change? I think so. Before judges in a '4th vote decides' situation tried to take the easy way out. Now, there's no way out. They have to bring the hammer down on someone. That's what they're being paid to do after all. |
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where you getting the flash vote act would go home if went to deadlock??? as if that is the case you may aswell just send the flash vote act home straight away.
As far as i no they have yet to release how deadlock will work |
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