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Old 11-10-2013, 17:33
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Hello, I hope someone can help me with this !
I`ve just "upgraded" from Windows XP to Windows 7.
With XP you could copy or move a file direct to a folder (or sub folder, or sub folder of a sub folder.....), but I can`t work out how to do it with Windows 7. There is no "File & Folder Tasks" sub menu with the option to click either "Copy this file" or "Move this file", which then let you select the exact destination you wanted the file to be copied or moved to. The only thing I can see on Windows 7 is "Send to" and then only the ability to copy or move a file to the desktop or wherever.

Surely there must be a way, I was always using the copy/move submenu on XP, I can`t have been the only person who found that a valuablke (invaluable.....) function !
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Old 11-10-2013, 17:47
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I may be misunderstanding you, but cant you just open explorer and drag and drop or use ctrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste?
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Old 11-10-2013, 17:48
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I copy and paste, or drag and drop.
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Old 11-10-2013, 18:16
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Copy and paste are in the right click menu on Windows 7.
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Old 11-10-2013, 18:55
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Hello, I hope someone can help me with this !
I`ve just "upgraded" from Windows XP to Windows 7.
With XP you could copy or move a file direct to a folder (or sub folder, or sub folder of a sub folder.....), but I can`t work out how to do it with Windows 7. There is no "File & Folder Tasks" sub menu with the option to click either "Copy this file" or "Move this file", which then let you select the exact destination you wanted the file to be copied or moved to. The only thing I can see on Windows 7 is "Send to" and then only the ability to copy or move a file to the desktop or wherever.

Surely there must be a way, I was always using the copy/move submenu on XP, I can`t have been the only person who found that a valuablke (invaluable.....) function !
Copy to Folder and Move to Folder are available on the Edit Menu in Computer in Win 7. Would these do what you want?
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Old 11-10-2013, 22:01
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Copy to Folder and Move to Folder are available on the Edit Menu in Computer in Win 7. Would these do what you want?
That may well be !
I will investigate when I get to work tomorrow ! !
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Old 11-10-2013, 22:09
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can be done quite easily (as I usually do)
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ve-folder.html
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Old 12-10-2013, 00:14
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The OP might find it easier using Windows Explorer.

Navigate to the folder (or sub-folder) you want to copy from in the pane on the left hand side. The files in the folder will be listed in the pane to the right. If this list is of folders, you want to come down a level or two, till you have files.

Select the file(s) you want. (highlight, shift, control, etc.)

To copy, right-click and select 'copy' or Ctrl-C.

To move, right-click and select 'cut' or Ctrl-X

Navigate to the folder you want to put the file(s) in. The folder must be in the left pane, with the files already in the folder listed in the right pane. If you have folders in the right pane, then the "current" folder is one level up, and that's where your file(s) will go.

Highlight the folder.

Right-click and 'paste' or Ctrl-V


It sounds a lot more fiddly than it is in practice.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:06
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If you had a 12 year old Ford Fiesta, and then bought a newer model, would you expect all the controls to be in exactly the same place?

It might take time to get used to the changes, bit it's worth persevering. I knew one large organisation that made their PCs Start menu look like the one in Windows 2000 because "that's what the staff are used to"! Going down that path leads to madness.
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:18
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If you had a 12 year old Ford Fiesta, and then bought a newer model, would you expect all the controls to be in exactly the same place?

It might take time to get used to the changes, bit it's worth persevering. I knew one large organisation that made their PCs Start menu look like the one in Windows 2000 because "that's what the staff are used to"! Going down that path leads to madness.
Well you say that but could I tentatively suggest that`s a bad example ! There are sound arguments for having many things in the same place on all cars, in fact the accelerator, brake and clutch are in the same place on all cars. I`d go further. I think more controls should be in the same place on all cars simply because when you go from one car to another you can then find them quickly, which has safety implications as well as reduced stress. I wish my wife`s Yaris had all the controls in the same place as my Ford Focus !

But as regards software I`m getting myself all stressed up like you woudn`t believe with Windows 7 and Outlook.
I had Outlook Express on my old machine and was quite happy with it (though a spell checker would have been nice !). I was told you can`t get Outlook Express anymore so now, at great expense, I have Outlook/Office 2013. But I`ve now been told you can`t transfer the stored E Mails on Outlook Express to Outlook, similarly with the message rules and folders. Lastly, We have two E mail addresses and OE just put all received E mails in the same folders, which is what we want. Outlook has two lots of folders ! There may well be a way of integrating the two but how long will it take me to find out how to do that !
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:44
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Well you say that but could I tentatively suggest that`s a bad example ! There are sound arguments for having many things in the same place on all cars, in fact the accelerator, brake and clutch are in the same place on all cars. I`d go further. I think more controls should be in the same place on all cars simply because when you go from one car to another you can then find them quickly, which has safety implications as well as reduced stress. I wish my wife`s Yaris had all the controls in the same place as my Ford Focus !

But as regards software I`m getting myself all stressed up like you woudn`t believe with Windows 7 and Outlook.
I had Outlook Express on my old machine and was quite happy with it (though a spell checker would have been nice !). I was told you can`t get Outlook Express anymore so now, at great expense, I have Outlook/Office 2013. But I`ve now been told you can`t transfer the stored E Mails on Outlook Express to Outlook, similarly with the message rules and folders. Lastly, We have two E mail addresses and OE just put all received E mails in the same folders, which is what we want. Outlook has two lots of folders ! There may well be a way of integrating the two but how long will it take me to find out how to do that !
From reading the last part you wrote it sounds like you are more having issues with using Microsoft Office than Windows 7. I can't remember what menu it is hidden under but you can probably customise the layout to better suit your needs. Also if you right click an E-mail you should get the option to move it to a folder.

If you scroll down the page on the attached link there are a few tutorials that might help you.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...102809998.aspx
http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/ou...102919679.aspx
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Old 12-10-2013, 13:16
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Arggggggggggg ! ! !

What is one of the most used buttons with XP ?
The up one level button.
Where is it on Windows 7 ?
Is it really true it`s been deleted ?
Surely not !
Are these people (Microsoft) absolute idiots ?
What`s ironic is I bought a new faster PC to use as my main PC and then drop my other PC to my spare, but I hate Windows 7 so much I think this expensive new PC will be the spare...... I feel a bit miffed actually because teh place that sold me the PC said do you want Windows 7 or Window 8 ? I said whichever one is most similar to XP. They give me Windows 7 and it has no Up One Level button and requires importing a .reg file to get the "copy to/move to" commands to work !

What I really don`t understand is how some people actually look forward to new versions of stuff, like Windows, coming out. Is it just me but I`ve got better things to do with my time than have to relearn how to use half the functions on my PC !
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Old 12-10-2013, 13:17
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I was told you can`t get Outlook Express anymore so now, at great expense, I have Outlook/Office 2013.
It's a shame you didn't come here for advice first, because you could have got Windows Live Mail for free, which is the natural successor to Outlook Express.
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Old 12-10-2013, 13:20
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It's a shame you didn't come here for advice first, because you could have got Windows Live Mail for free, which is the natural successor to Outlook Express.
I have to say Stig I`m really quite depressed about all this, I just want to do work on my PC not have to relearn how to use it.........
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Old 12-10-2013, 13:46
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Arggggggggggg ! ! !

What is one of the most used buttons with XP ?
The up one level button.
Where is it on Windows 7 ?
Is it really true it`s been deleted ?
Surely not !
Are these people (Microsoft) absolute idiots ?
What`s ironic is I bought a new faster PC to use as my main PC and then drop my other PC to my spare, but I hate Windows 7 so much I think this expensive new PC will be the spare...... I feel a bit miffed actually because teh place that sold me the PC said do you want Windows 7 or Window 8 ? I said whichever one is most similar to XP. They give me Windows 7 and it has no Up One Level button and requires importing a .reg file to get the "copy to/move to" commands to work !

What I really don`t understand is how some people actually look forward to new versions of stuff, like Windows, coming out. Is it just me but I`ve got better things to do with my time than have to relearn how to use half the functions on my PC !
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Old 12-10-2013, 14:24
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I have to say Stig I`m really quite depressed about all this, I just want to do work on my PC not have to relearn how to use it.........
Just embrace the change! You will soon learn new ways how to do things. Have you considered that 'bloody Microsoft' may have actually come up with some improvements to how things worked in XP?

I would strongly advise against modifying the UI back to the way it was in XP before you have given Windows 7 a chance. I'm speaking as a software trainer for over 10 years.
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Old 12-10-2013, 14:39
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Just embrace the change! You will soon learn new ways how to do things. Have you considered that 'bloody Microsoft' may have actually come up with some improvements to how things worked in XP?

I would strongly advise against modifying the UI back to the way it was in XP before you have given Windows 7 a chance. I'm speaking as a software trainer for over 10 years.
I do a lot of file manipulation Stig, I need my copy to folder, move to folder and up buttons ! Interestingly, did I not read somewhere that Windows 8 has reinstated the up button ?
Anyway, I used that Classic Shell download and I can almost cope with Windows 7 now......
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Old 12-10-2013, 14:43
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Very useful this. First thing I searched for and downloaded after installing Win 7.

Didn't realise there was a toggle menubar in Win 7
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Old 12-10-2013, 14:55
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Arggggggggggg ! ! !

What is one of the most used buttons with XP ?
The up one level button.
Where is it on Windows 7 ?
Is it really true it`s been deleted ?
Surely not !
It's not there because you don't need it.

If you look at the bar at the top of the "Computer" window you'll see the file path listed like

Computer > Local Disk (C: ) > Program Files > Internet Explorer

In this example displaying the contents of the Internet Explorer folder. If you want to go back up a level to Program Files just click on "Program Files" in the bar. Or any section before a > mark to go to that level.

And if you click on the > it drops down a list of sub-folders at that level. So it's actually more flexible than the simple back up button in XP.
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Old 12-10-2013, 15:26
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It's a shame you didn't come here for advice first, because you could have got Windows Live Mail for free, which is the natural successor to Outlook Express.
It may be the natural successor, but it's nowhere as easy to use as Outlook Express was. I used to use newsgroups a lot on OE, but I've stopped using them on WLM.

Also in OE you could have separate identities for different purposes or users, with passwords if you felt like it.

I tried Thunderbird, but I wasn't keen on it, especially since it couldn't cope with BTinternet addresses.
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Old 12-10-2013, 15:35
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It's not there because you don't need it.

If you look at the bar at the top of the "Computer" window you'll see the file path listed like

Computer > Local Disk (C: ) > Program Files > Internet Explorer

In this example displaying the contents of the Internet Explorer folder. If you want to go back up a level to Program Files just click on "Program Files" in the bar. Or any section before a > mark to go to that level.

And if you click on the > it drops down a list of sub-folders at that level. So it's actually more flexible than the simple back up button in XP.
That`s useful to know Chris, and it does actually work ! However, if it`s not needed why have they reinstated it in Windows 8 ? It`s because it`s easier to understand. I think we always have to remember that most people don`t actually know that much about PCs and IT etc. I don`t think I know that much but I probably know more than most people out there on the streets. This post in a DS thread on RF modulators probably sums it up better, it`s a subject I know more about !
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Old 12-10-2013, 18:06
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Arggggggggggg ! ! !

What is one of the most used buttons with XP ?
The up one level button.
Where is it on Windows 7 ?
Is it really true it`s been deleted ?
Surely not !
Are these people (Microsoft) absolute idiots ?
I really don't understand this. Is it really anydifferent to how it's always been? If you open either Windows Explorer of My Computer (same thing), you simply expand or collapse the file tree using the little 'V' arrows at the side of each folder. If you really have to, you can use the arrows at the top left of the box. It's a while since I've used XP, but I don't remember it ever being much different.

To move files precisely, I simply open Windows Explorer to find the source folder, then open a second window of Windows Explorer to drag either the folder or individual files exactly where I want them.

The only thing that really does irritate me is when Windows tries to get you to use its library system for music and photos. I've never used that and never intend to.
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Old 13-10-2013, 20:16
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I really don't understand this. Is it really anydifferent to how it's always been? If you open either Windows Explorer of My Computer (same thing), you simply expand or collapse the file tree using the little 'V' arrows at the side of each folder. If you really have to, you can use the arrows at the top left of the box. It's a while since I've used XP, but I don't remember it ever being much different.

To move files precisely, I simply open Windows Explorer to find the source folder, then open a second window of Windows Explorer to drag either the folder or individual files exactly where I want them.

The only thing that really does irritate me is when Windows tries to get you to use its library system for music and photos. I've never used that and never intend to.
Have you solved how to put folders in the order you want rather than the alphabetical order (or size etc) W7 insists on? I may be missing something, but W7 refuses to do this for me.

I want to put files folders next to related ones - say - dogs, cats, hamsters, tesco, amazon, but, wheras in Windows XP you could just lift and drop them in any order and they stay there, W7 insists on putting them in its order. In that case - Amazon, cats, dogs, hampsters, tesco. Not a great example, but it shows the point.

Of course you can make another higher layer of folders for, in that example, pets and shops, but that just adds another pointless click to open it , and is another case of progress proceeding backwards.
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Old 13-10-2013, 20:39
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Have you solved how to put folders in the order you want rather than the alphabetical order (or size etc) W7 insists on? ...........
If I have a problem of that sort I simply rename the files so as to have a prefix. A, B, C , D or aardvark, beagle, cat, dolphin.
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Old 14-10-2013, 00:25
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If I have a problem of that sort I simply rename the files so as to have a prefix. A, B, C , D or aardvark, beagle, cat, dolphin.
Seems to be all there is, unless someone can suggest something different. The other alternative is to number the folders in your own order - 1cat 2dog etc - but then you may have to change the numbers of everything if you want to add a new folder. XP was in that sense much more user friendly.
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