Orange withdraw Sony Z1010

03-02-2005, 19:27

What a bummer! I ordered this phone on Jan 31st. I got a great deal, too.

Sony Z1010 £49.99 with

200 mins X network for £30 p.mth
200 mins free eve calls
1000 free eve txts
60 minutes free video calling p.mth and
50MB free data p.mth for 12 months
£50 airtime credit

Just told me today they have withdrawn the phone "due to too many problems". I have a choice of 4 phones on 3G and none of them are anything like as good as the Sony for features and screen size.

I haven't cancelled the order yet, as I am obvioulsy reluctant to. Now I don't know what to do! Help!!

mcfc2134 · 03-02-2005, 19:38

Good deal but go for the Nokia 6630 instead....far better phone than the Sony Ericsson Z1010 - even if you do have to pay a little more.

Or if they wont give you a Z1010, then demand the 6630 for free for messing you around!!

03-02-2005, 21:37

Thanks, but I wouldn't have a Nokia if they gave me £50. Over-rated tatt, IMO.

lee18xx · 03-02-2005, 22:45

Quote:

Good deal but go for the Nokia 6630 instead....far better phone than the Sony Ericsson Z1010 - even if you do have to pay a little more.

The 6630 isn't better... it doesn't offer Video Calling which I would persume is majorly what 3G is all about?

03-02-2005, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee18xx

The 6630 isn't better... it doesn't offer Video Calling which I would persume is majorly what 3G is all about?

It does according to the Orange website.

I still wouldn't have it if it made me breakfast in bed!

lee18xx · 03-02-2005, 22:55

Quote:

It does according to the Orange website. I still wouldn't have it if it made me breakfast in bed!

That's very misleading! You have to buy one of these to get video calling available on the 6630:

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,58860,00.html

Mr Cable · 03-02-2005, 23:21

Several months ago, I posted here(#25) that after a year worth of delays and promises it was 'coming soon' 3 had decided to drop the Z1010 launch due to problems with reliability. I also said of how it probably wouldn't see a UK Vodafone release.

The more militant anti-3 members of DS had a go at me (post #26) and I stated about Orange having issues with it even at that early pre-launch stage (post #32).

I'm not having a dig at Orange, quite the opposite in fact for removing a weak link. This phone was well over a year old at the Orange 3G launch. The 6630 is a MUCH better choice.

Now, if you excuse me;

*dances off to bed*

03-02-2005, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Cable

Several months ago, I posted here(#25) that after a year worth of delays and promises it was 'coming soon' 3 had decided to drop the Z1010 launch due to problems with reliability. I also said of how it probably wouldn't see a UK Vodafone release.

The more militant anti-3 members of DS had a go at me (post #26) and I stated about Orange having issues with it even at that early pre-launch stage (post #32).

I'm not having a dig at Orange, quite the opposite in fact for removing a weak link. This phone was well over a year old at the Orange 3G launch. The 6630 is a MUCH better choice.

Now, if you excuse me;

*dances off to bed*

Well done, smart a*se!

Answer my question, now then!

Mr Cable · 03-02-2005, 23:56

Seriously, get the 6630 in. Battery life is FAR better, the software is more stable - and it's Symbian so you can install stuff. It's still got Bluetooth, and the RSMMC are usually cheaper than Memory Stick Duo. It's a good bit smaller too.

Have you had experience with a SYMBIAN handset? It's far better than Nokia's own stuff.
I know what you mean about Nokia being over-rated and I'm no Nokia nut! My last 6 phones have been Moto, Nokia, Moto, Sharp, Sharp, Alcatel!

Try it - you have got 14 days to change it!

Good Luck!

04-02-2005, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Cable

Seriously, get the 6630 in. Battery life is FAR better, the software is more stable - and it's Symbian so you can install stuff. It's still got Bluetooth, and the RSMMC are usually cheaper than Memory Stick Duo.

Have you had experience with a SYMBIAN handset? It's far better than Nokia's own stuff.
I know what you mean about Nokia being over-rated and I'm no Nokia nut! My last 6 phones have been Moto, Nokia, Moto, Sharp, Sharp, Alcatel!

Try it - you have got 14 days to change it!

Good Luck!

Since day one, I've only ever had Ericsson phones, including Sony-E's (apart from the work's Nokia which I occasionally answer!). Also, I was hoping to use my existing Sony-E accessories and not have to buy all new ones: car charger, etc.).

My (biased) perception is that saying get a Nokia is like saying get a Skoda, when I'm used to BMWs! A hard change to make.

The other thing is, I wanted a phone where the screen was protected. Screens get scratched in girls' handbags, you know. Why don't the male designers think of these things more? (And don't get me started on trying to text with long nails!!

)

Thanks for advice!

mcfc2134 · 04-02-2005, 01:11

Believe me - the Z1010 is nothin compared to the 6630, which wins hands down in most areas. The camera is sooo much better, as mentioned before its more stable and is currently the best 3G phone that Orange offer.

However, if you dont want to stay on Orange then go for the Sharp 902sh on Vodafone or the SE S700i if you want to stay with SE.

But please dont go with Z1010 - you'll regret it.

And Lee, 3G isn't just about video calling - its about the whole new interface - i.e. video/audio streaming, faster GPRS connections etc. In my opinion I dont think 3G is worth the extra cash at the moment, give 6-8 months and it will be, but I wouldnt invest in it now. The majority of the phones are out of date (the Z1010 was launched in late 2003) or too bulky. Most phones currently offer the same as 3G enhanced phones but without 3G capabilities. I would choose Samsung's D500 over any 3G phone apart from the Nokia 6630 or Sharp 902sh.

Thats my 2 cents anyway.

Up to you shelly - i think you'd be wrong to turn down a 6630 if you were offered it.

Mr Cable · 04-02-2005, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley

.....The other thing is, I wanted a phone where the screen was protected. Screens get scratched in girls' handbags, you know...

Shelley, that's where Nokia have always had one over on SE, with their Xpress-on™ covers! Scratched your screen? Never mind, just clip on a new one - they're only a couple of quid!

Here's the eBay listings for tons of 6630 covers in (almost) every colour of the rainbow! Now get the 6630.

Good Luck!

Last edited by Mr Cable : 04-02-2005 at 15:31.

steve007 · 04-02-2005, 18:40

Nokia has the best after sales of any Manufacturer with Service Centres all over the UK being able to offer same day repairs in many cases.

Nokia has the most intuitive software of any Manufacturer.

I'll admit the build quality of Ericsson phones was better than Nokia, but since they merged with Sony and became SonyEricsson its gone downhill fast.

imno12u · 04-02-2005, 21:39

Nokia's design and time taken in the production of phones leaves much to be desired. They really couldn't care less on what they put their badge on which is why they've recently got such a poor reputation in comparison to other companies.

lee18xx · 04-02-2005, 22:06

Orange have now withdrawn the 6630 due to "problems"

Maybe its Orange that are the problem..

Stephen93 · 04-02-2005, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee18xx

Orange have now withdrawn the 6630 due to "problems"

Maybe its Orange that are the problem..

I spoke to Orange CS today asking about the 6630 they told they'd sent a load back but were expecting a re-stock in a couple of weeks

lee18xx · 04-02-2005, 22:25

Get it on vodafone

brundles · 04-02-2005, 23:39

To be fair to Sony Ericsson, although I've had nothing but trouble with my Z1010 in the UK, when I went abroad for a week, it worked flawlessly on the local 2G and 3G network (although I couldn't send text messages out of the country because of an intermittent issue the Orange techs had apparently been working on for 2 months already

).

jammers · 05-02-2005, 00:02

Get the SE V800 on Voda - best 3g phone around.

05-02-2005, 21:51

Thanks for all the advice, guys!

Got an email from Orange saying that they were going to try and get me a Sony Z1010!

Guv'nor · 05-02-2005, 22:04

I've had a Z1010 since launch on Orange 3G. The first handset was a dud but the replacement is fine, no problems whatsoever with it. A friend with a 6630 had problems with the Nokia freezing, rebooting and dropping calls and got it exchanged for a Z1010 which has been flawless.

purple_smarties · 07-02-2005, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen93

I spoke to Orange CS today asking about the 6630 they told they'd sent a load back but were expecting a re-stock in a couple of weeks

anyone heard any more about this? i phoned yesterday to upgrade my phone and was told they were out of stock and i would have to keep ringing up to find out when they would be back in stock.

anyone managed to get a date?

ghorricks · 08-02-2005, 14:07

I have the LG 8110 on three.
Can't say its the best 3G phone ever, but the design is right and it works well.

There are newer LG 3G phones on the market at the moment, worth looking at if you can do without bluetooth. Plus they are easily hacked for all networks.

Ahem.

08-02-2005, 18:54

My Z1010 is arriving in 2 days!

03-02-2005, 19:27	#1
Shelley Posts: n/a	Orange withdraw Sony Z1010 What a bummer! I ordered this phone on Jan 31st. I got a great deal, too. Sony Z1010 £49.99 with 200 mins X network for £30 p.mth 200 mins free eve calls 1000 free eve txts 60 minutes free video calling p.mth and 50MB free data p.mth for 12 months £50 airtime credit Just told me today they have withdrawn the phone "due to too many problems". I have a choice of 4 phones on 3G and none of them are anything like as good as the Sony for features and screen size. I haven't cancelled the order yet, as I am obvioulsy reluctant to. Now I don't know what to do! Help!!

03-02-2005, 23:21	#7
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Does the 'Told-You-So' dance Several months ago, I posted here(#25) that after a year worth of delays and promises it was 'coming soon' 3 had decided to drop the Z1010 launch due to problems with reliability. I also said of how it probably wouldn't see a UK Vodafone release. The more militant anti-3 members of DS had a go at me (post #26) and I stated about Orange having issues with it even at that early pre-launch stage (post #32). I'm not having a dig at Orange, quite the opposite in fact for removing a weak link. This phone was well over a year old at the Orange 3G launch. The 6630 is a MUCH better choice. Now, if you excuse me; dances off to bed Last edited by Mr Cable : 03-02-2005 at 23:36.

04-02-2005, 00:03	#10
Shelley Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Cable Seriously, get the 6630 in. Battery life is FAR better, the software is more stable - and it's Symbian so you can install stuff. It's still got Bluetooth, and the RSMMC are usually cheaper than Memory Stick Duo. Have you had experience with a SYMBIAN handset? It's far better than Nokia's own stuff. I know what you mean about Nokia being over-rated and I'm no Nokia nut! My last 6 phones have been Moto, Nokia, Moto, Sharp, Sharp, Alcatel! Try it - you have got 14 days to change it! Good Luck! Since day one, I've only ever had Ericsson phones, including Sony-E's (apart from the work's Nokia which I occasionally answer!). Also, I was hoping to use my existing Sony-E accessories and not have to buy all new ones: car charger, etc.). My (biased) perception is that saying get a Nokia is like saying get a Skoda, when I'm used to BMWs! A hard change to make. The other thing is, I wanted a phone where the screen was protected. Screens get scratched in girls' handbags, you know. Why don't the male designers think of these things more? (And don't get me started on trying to text with long nails!!) Thanks for advice!

03-02-2005, 19:38	#2
mcfc2134 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Midlands Posts: 410	Good deal but go for the Nokia 6630 instead....far better phone than the Sony Ericsson Z1010 - even if you do have to pay a little more. Or if they wont give you a Z1010, then demand the 6630 for free for messing you around!!

03-02-2005, 21:37	#3
Shelley Posts: n/a	Thanks, but I wouldn't have a Nokia if they gave me £50. Over-rated tatt, IMO.

03-02-2005, 22:45	#4
lee18xx Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,794	Quote: Good deal but go for the Nokia 6630 instead....far better phone than the Sony Ericsson Z1010 - even if you do have to pay a little more. The 6630 isn't better... it doesn't offer Video Calling which I would persume is majorly what 3G is all about?

03-02-2005, 22:51	#5
Shelley Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by lee18xx The 6630 isn't better... it doesn't offer Video Calling which I would persume is majorly what 3G is all about? It does according to the Orange website. I still wouldn't have it if it made me breakfast in bed!

03-02-2005, 22:55	#6
lee18xx Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,794	Quote: It does according to the Orange website. I still wouldn't have it if it made me breakfast in bed! That's very misleading! You have to buy one of these to get video calling available on the 6630: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,58860,00.html

03-02-2005, 23:38	#8
Shelley Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Cable Several months ago, I posted here(#25) that after a year worth of delays and promises it was 'coming soon' 3 had decided to drop the Z1010 launch due to problems with reliability. I also said of how it probably wouldn't see a UK Vodafone release. The more militant anti-3 members of DS had a go at me (post #26) and I stated about Orange having issues with it even at that early pre-launch stage (post #32). I'm not having a dig at Orange, quite the opposite in fact for removing a weak link. This phone was well over a year old at the Orange 3G launch. The 6630 is a MUCH better choice. Now, if you excuse me; dances off to bed Well done, smart a*se! Answer my question, now then!

03-02-2005, 23:56	#9
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Seriously, get the 6630 in. Battery life is FAR better, the software is more stable - and it's Symbian so you can install stuff. It's still got Bluetooth, and the RSMMC are usually cheaper than Memory Stick Duo. It's a good bit smaller too. Have you had experience with a SYMBIAN handset? It's far better than Nokia's own stuff. I know what you mean about Nokia being over-rated and I'm no Nokia nut! My last 6 phones have been Moto, Nokia, Moto, Sharp, Sharp, Alcatel! Try it - you have got 14 days to change it! Good Luck!

04-02-2005, 01:11	#11
mcfc2134 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Midlands Posts: 410	Believe me - the Z1010 is nothin compared to the 6630, which wins hands down in most areas. The camera is sooo much better, as mentioned before its more stable and is currently the best 3G phone that Orange offer. However, if you dont want to stay on Orange then go for the Sharp 902sh on Vodafone or the SE S700i if you want to stay with SE. But please dont go with Z1010 - you'll regret it. And Lee, 3G isn't just about video calling - its about the whole new interface - i.e. video/audio streaming, faster GPRS connections etc. In my opinion I dont think 3G is worth the extra cash at the moment, give 6-8 months and it will be, but I wouldnt invest in it now. The majority of the phones are out of date (the Z1010 was launched in late 2003) or too bulky. Most phones currently offer the same as 3G enhanced phones but without 3G capabilities. I would choose Samsung's D500 over any 3G phone apart from the Nokia 6630 or Sharp 902sh. Thats my 2 cents anyway. Up to you shelly - i think you'd be wrong to turn down a 6630 if you were offered it.

04-02-2005, 15:16	#12
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Quote: Originally Posted by Shelley .....The other thing is, I wanted a phone where the screen was protected. Screens get scratched in girls' handbags, you know... Shelley, that's where Nokia have always had one over on SE, with their Xpress-on™ covers! Scratched your screen? Never mind, just clip on a new one - they're only a couple of quid! Here's the eBay listings for tons of 6630 covers in (almost) every colour of the rainbow! Now get the 6630. Good Luck! Last edited by Mr Cable : 04-02-2005 at 15:31.

04-02-2005, 18:40	#13
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Nokia has the best after sales of any Manufacturer with Service Centres all over the UK being able to offer same day repairs in many cases. Nokia has the most intuitive software of any Manufacturer. I'll admit the build quality of Ericsson phones was better than Nokia, but since they merged with Sony and became SonyEricsson its gone downhill fast.

04-02-2005, 21:39	#14
imno12u Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: London Posts: 7,080	Nokia's design and time taken in the production of phones leaves much to be desired. They really couldn't care less on what they put their badge on which is why they've recently got such a poor reputation in comparison to other companies.

04-02-2005, 22:06	#15
lee18xx Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,794	Orange have now withdrawn the 6630 due to "problems" Maybe its Orange that are the problem..

04-02-2005, 22:19	#16
Stephen93 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 968	Quote: Originally Posted by lee18xx Orange have now withdrawn the 6630 due to "problems" Maybe its Orange that are the problem.. I spoke to Orange CS today asking about the 6630 they told they'd sent a load back but were expecting a re-stock in a couple of weeks

04-02-2005, 22:25	#17
lee18xx Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,794	Get it on vodafone

04-02-2005, 23:39	#18
brundles Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,505	To be fair to Sony Ericsson, although I've had nothing but trouble with my Z1010 in the UK, when I went abroad for a week, it worked flawlessly on the local 2G and 3G network (although I couldn't send text messages out of the country because of an intermittent issue the Orange techs had apparently been working on for 2 months already ).

05-02-2005, 00:02	#19
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Get the SE V800 on Voda - best 3g phone around.

05-02-2005, 21:51	#20
Shelley Posts: n/a	Thanks for all the advice, guys! Got an email from Orange saying that they were going to try and get me a Sony Z1010!

05-02-2005, 22:04	#21
Guv'nor Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,628	I've had a Z1010 since launch on Orange 3G. The first handset was a dud but the replacement is fine, no problems whatsoever with it. A friend with a 6630 had problems with the Nokia freezing, rebooting and dropping calls and got it exchanged for a Z1010 which has been flawless.

07-02-2005, 18:54	#22
purple_smarties Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 432	Quote: Originally Posted by Stephen93 I spoke to Orange CS today asking about the 6630 they told they'd sent a load back but were expecting a re-stock in a couple of weeks anyone heard any more about this? i phoned yesterday to upgrade my phone and was told they were out of stock and i would have to keep ringing up to find out when they would be back in stock. anyone managed to get a date?

08-02-2005, 14:07	#23
ghorricks Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North West Posts: 583	I have the LG 8110 on three. Can't say its the best 3G phone ever, but the design is right and it works well. There are newer LG 3G phones on the market at the moment, worth looking at if you can do without bluetooth. Plus they are easily hacked for all networks. Ahem.

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Orange withdraw Sony Z1010

08-02-2005, 18:54	#24
Shelley Posts: n/a	My Z1010 is arriving in 2 days!