what did she dance tonight? Latin American which means she knows the rumba also the skills foe all arebinterchangable alarms finishing lines posture, frame timing doesn't matter if disco or ballroom a high levelmof training on any aspect will massively help you especially picking up the routines

Guess that makes me guilty of a lack of perspective.

And on Widdy's and Lisa's and John Sargeant's and Zoe Ball's and and I daresay quite a few others who didn't win. It seems being on Strictly can be good for your career .

Thank god for the voice of reason xx

Latin American...

Though mentioning her singing range in that list is just lazy C&P.

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Hehe. Indeed. She's admitted to being trained at a stage school until her late teens, so of course, she's going to be very good.

I am sure she did Acting and Musical Theatre and finished her course when she was nineteen.
If it was a three year course then she started it when she was 16.
Most " younger" TV actors and actresses have attended some sort of performing arts schools, had years of singing and or dance classes.

Thousands of little girls ( and boys) start dancing when they start school and keep going until their teens when other interests often take over.
That's what happened to me. I doubt if I entered a dance competition 10 years + after I last danced! that anyone would call me a ringer.

I was on holiday a couple of months ago and they were doing Dancing with The stars. It is a big competition going on on cruise ships and the contestants are passengers.
It goes on for months and the final is judged by the TV judges.
It is a knockout competition and when we saw it there was someone you would probably class as a ringer..... a young man who had started Irish Dancing at a very young age and was still doing it.
He was rubbish, his feet were great but he didn't know what to do with his arms.

Just goes to show that even those who are dancers, can't turn their hand, feet and every other part of their body to every genre of dance.

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I tend to prefer looking at the cv her agent puts out which lists her as 'highly skilled' at Latin dancing (as well as other genres)

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She might have it on her cv as a skill but do you see her performing any of these skills in the work she has done?
There are no production or directors listed for her dancing so this suggests that she either doesn't audition or get through auditions for dance roles.

If she hasn't danced since she was 16 or even 19 if she did do some dancing at Itailia Conte during her acting and musical theatre course, she has still had a ten year gap with no dance roles listed on her CV.

She may well have worked through her ISTD exams, got the certificates and the medals years ago when she was in her teens.If that's the case, of course they are going to be on her CV.

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Oh, bore off. Why do po faced individuals like you have to bleat and moan and spoil the superficiality of an entertainment show? There are real injustices out there, love. A contestant on a Saturday night dancing show having dance training ain't one of them.

I enjoy seeing her dance thus far. Artem is like a kid in a candy shop and produced a sublime rumba. Hope she'll go all the way. Don't care or mind if she wins, just want to see her attempt all the different genres of dances in SCD (yes, charleston included!).

People! I know we are all going to have differing opinions on who we like and for whatever reasons but it is entertainment on a Saturday evening not World and Peace. I love Natalie who is a gifted dancer and it also love Mark who is not such a gifted dancer. There is room for everybody an that is what we love Strictly ....yaaaayyyyy 🎉

Yes me too, she is a natural in my eyes, I look forward to every week now.

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I'd have switched off by now if it wasn't for Natalie and Artem, most of the others are rubbish, and don't do it for me at all.

Why did the Strictly recruit so many duffers this year? That's what I want to know. So unfair on those who like to actually watch dancing.

Off to watch their rumba again

Yes, exactly. It really can affect your future for ever and that's why I don't trivialise the programme.

The OP must have a short memory as Natalie herself admitted that she'd had dance training in the past in her launch show VT. God knows why 'person on dancing show is a good dancer' has people up in arms so much.

Sorry, I but I still don't follow the logic of why ringing and winning are pertinent to your point ...

BIB, exactly my thoughts. Personally I This is shaping up to be a fab year. Just Natalie lifts the standard to such high levels that I don't care much about the standard of the others. The others happen to be a lovely bunch of people (except two), which means that I would not be that bothered who wins (it may change later on, of course!)

Nobody seems to account for the fact that it was an injury that stopped her to keep dancing. That injury must have been serious, so may hampered her chances of producing certain dances as well as she would like too.

Ashley has an huge advantage, because he is male, young and attractive and is the male best dancer of this season. That is more advantage to get votes than years of training!

I think this was the best rumba I have seen in strictly. Could be bettered, I am sure, but as you said it was sublime!Although I haven't warmed totally to Natalie as a personality, I just get mesmerised watching her dance.

It is just as entertaining to watch beautiful dancing as it is to watch some people stomp around twirling a cape.

The important thing is the fun they have along the way. Natalie & Artem seem to be having as much fun as Dave and Karen or Deborah and Robin.

Alesha had back injuy too, but that didn't affect her though she was seen with some patches towards the end of the series.

Ashley, I have to say I was surprised he lost all the fat in his samba open shirt malarky. I still remember chuckling at his spare tyres in his pro photo he took with Ola and now he's more defined six pack than Artem! Shocking!

You know you can just watch the 90 secs of dancing from the BBC website right? You don't have to subject yourself to two hours of dross.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m8dq/clips

I think there is room on the show for celebs who have had previous dance training, and for those who have had none.

It isnt a level playing field in terms of ability, and that's the joy of the programme.

Viewers like to see good dancing, and they like to see a "journey"

The great british public can vote for who they like.

Both of these!

I am waiting for the agency cv's of the rest of the contestants now please so I can verify if they have put one foot in front of the other....

I can't wait to see what dance they have next week

People have been known to exaggerate on their CV's.

Got a "B" in GCSE German? Youre multi-lingual

Took a few horse riding lessons when you were twelve because all your mates were doing it? Skilled Equestrienne.

Got up on stage at karaoke night at your local pub after a few too many Malibu & Coke's? Experienced singer

I would have a problem with it if she was the first person to have had experience. She will probably get to the final but I cant see her winning. Look at last year. Many would say that Louis was not such a good dancer as DVO but he won cause he was popular.

I enjoy watching Natalie dance and its nice to have mixed abilities. However I think that if Ashley carries on improving that he will win so please give Natalie a break. If u were in her position would u turn down an offer to take part. I think not.

Completely agree with this. Yes it's obvious Natalie has had dance training. I did ballet from age 2 - 18 (not to competition level but I was OK) and think it's inbuilt to have the knowledge about how to place your arms head etc if you've had any training whatsoever. As other people have said, other winners have had dance training of some sort. I thought Natalie was brilliant tonight (as did my boyfriend whose only knowledge of dancing is me making him watch Strictly) and I thought she should have got 10s. Previous training or not I look forward to watching her and I hope she wins.


I've never posted in SCD forum before so be gentle on me!