I think Camilla had some choice things to say on ITT after Gethin's elimination.
Aliona speaks out...
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Didn't Len have a go at her after one of the dances? I can't remember him being quite so direct with any of the other pros.
I don't think she has said anything that we didn't already know. For whatever reasons the BBC decided to sack her. She agreed to step in for Natalie (I probably wouldn't have to be honest) but she & we were under no illusion that she would get a duffer. She could have used this opportunity to show she is a god sport & adaptable but she didn't & hasn't. She may get a chance again next year as Janette & Anya are pretty forgettable but she won't if she keeps giving interviews
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Yes, isn't she.
Very unwise comments, and it's now a racing certainty that she will not be back next year. And she'll only be appearing in pro dances this year because of her contract (I bet that the BBC would dearly love to find a reason for her not to appear, as would any employer in a similar situation). But of course, she will still get paid for her later appearances .... she should count herself lucky in that she received a second bite of the cherry.
She has lost any respect that I had for her.”
“Yes, isn't she.
Very unwise comments, and it's now a racing certainty that she will not be back next year. And she'll only be appearing in pro dances this year because of her contract (I bet that the BBC would dearly love to find a reason for her not to appear, as would any employer in a similar situation). But of course, she will still get paid for her later appearances .... she should count herself lucky in that she received a second bite of the cherry.
She has lost any respect that I had for her.”
As long as people tow the party line eh??
A good company encourages their employees to speak out and challenge the authority.
Whatever the real reason for pairing her with Tony, she should have kept her dignity and her mouth shut;
it's not about her, it's about the celebreties and her sour face makes me feel sad for Tony, who also deserved better than to be paired with a bitter pro.
it's not about her, it's about the celebreties and her sour face makes me feel sad for Tony, who also deserved better than to be paired with a bitter pro.
One day, just one day, the dancers and the prattlers will realise the producers don't give a damn about the dancers. They are commodities to them. There are no 'punishment' celebrities to pair up, and no 'deserving' pros either. For Strictly producers the viewing figures are about the pull of the celebrities, not the dancers.
I had to smile at the various comments. Everyone is assuming that everything you read in the papers is true!!!!!!!! I think the story is reasonably accurate but did Aliona actually say all of that to a reporter or is the reporter merely saying what everyone believes? She was stitched up so that she would leave early. Everyone knows Natalie would not have been partnered with Tony. The production team wanted her out as early as possible. I would not be surprised if she disappears from the pro routines too once Natalie is fit. I feel really sad as I think she is an amazing dancer who also can act the dance which not all the pros can do convincingly. She won Strictly with Harry and was second with Matt. Not a bad record for 3 years on strictly.( I am not counting last year) I for one shall miss her.
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“One day, just one day, the dancers and the prattlers will realise the producers don't give a damn about the dancers. They are commodities to them. There are no 'punishment' celebrities to pair up, and no 'deserving' pros either. For Strictly producers the viewing figures are about the pull of the celebrities, not the dancers.”
“One day, just one day, the dancers and the prattlers will realise the producers don't give a damn about the dancers. They are commodities to them. There are no 'punishment' celebrities to pair up, and no 'deserving' pros either. For Strictly producers the viewing figures are about the pull of the celebrities, not the dancers.”
Well said!
Glad to see her go as I find her rather self-obsessed. Someone had to partner Tony and why does she think that she is so special that it shouldn't have been her? Most of the seasoned professionals have had a weak partner at some point.
Originally Posted by holly berry:
“It's ok for the boys (James and Brendan) to slag off the judges but not for the girls. It's a BBC thang.”
“It's ok for the boys (James and Brendan) to slag off the judges but not for the girls. It's a BBC thang.”
"Slagging off" the judges is one thing, "slagging off" the producers and/or the BBC (again!) is on another level.
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Erin and Kristina have slagged the judges off, and those are just the two I remember.
Honestly the near obsession with that one throwaway comment she made on It Takes Two is a thing only on this forum.”
“Erin and Kristina have slagged the judges off, and those are just the two I remember.
Honestly the near obsession with that one throwaway comment she made on It Takes Two is a thing only on this forum.”
Yes, it's a bit much isn't it.
Reminds me of the Cold War Era when there were dozens of Kremlin watchers trying to make sense of even the smallest quotes and gestures.
Brezhnev twitched his left eyebrow. Trouble brewing in the Balkans.
Originally Posted by radcliffe95:
“As long as people tow the party line eh??
A good company encourages their employees to speak out and challenge the authority.”
“As long as people tow the party line eh??
A good company encourages their employees to speak out and challenge the authority.”
.....even when they are wrong or their judgement is misplaced.
Originally Posted by Kaereste:
“Glad to see her go as I find her rather self-obsessed. Someone had to partner Tony and why does she think that she is so special that it shouldn't have been her? Most of the seasoned professionals have had a weak partner at some point.”
“Glad to see her go as I find her rather self-obsessed. Someone had to partner Tony and why does she think that she is so special that it shouldn't have been her? Most of the seasoned professionals have had a weak partner at some point.”
Yep, not only did someone have to partner Tony, one celeb had to be voted out first.
She knew the way that the show works ....
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“From memory, Johnny gave Aliona a lift to the show when they were both appearing on SCD at the end of series 10 and she was very complimentary about him in an article which was published. They got along well while she was training him.
Aliona had figured out that because he hadn't been in the public eye for many years, Johnny wouldn't have enough popularity with the public and it would take a while to get his dancing good enough to avoid the bottom 2.
She had completed the dance routine before she got injured and had added a section to show off Johnny's personality in the hope that that would get enough people to connect with him to vote him above the bottom 2.
Instead of training Johnny to get the maximum quality of the existing dancing and keeping the section to show his personality, the decision was made that Johnny had more chance of staying in if he danced at a lower quality of dancing but more of it.”
“From memory, Johnny gave Aliona a lift to the show when they were both appearing on SCD at the end of series 10 and she was very complimentary about him in an article which was published. They got along well while she was training him.
Aliona had figured out that because he hadn't been in the public eye for many years, Johnny wouldn't have enough popularity with the public and it would take a while to get his dancing good enough to avoid the bottom 2.
She had completed the dance routine before she got injured and had added a section to show off Johnny's personality in the hope that that would get enough people to connect with him to vote him above the bottom 2.
Instead of training Johnny to get the maximum quality of the existing dancing and keeping the section to show his personality, the decision was made that Johnny had more chance of staying in if he danced at a lower quality of dancing but more of it.”
I wasn't saying that Johnny and Aliona didn't get on just that it was funny that she was at the recording when Johnny went home but she didn't go up when the other dancers join at the end of the goodbye dance to say anyway, she wasn't featured on the goodbye message on ITT and wasn't at the Monday ITT interview which suggested rightly or wrongly that she wasn't playing the game & when it was apparently the producers decision over Johnny's choreography it wasn't right of Aliona to have a dig at another pro who was only there to cover and had never been on the show before
Originally Posted by poshtamfan:
“I had to smile at the various comments. Everyone is assuming that everything you read in the papers is true!!!!!!!! I think the story is reasonably accurate but did Aliona actually say all of that to a reporter or is the reporter merely saying what everyone believes? She was stitched up so that she would leave early. Everyone knows Natalie would not have been partnered with Tony. The production team wanted her out as early as possible. I would not be surprised if she disappears from the pro routines too once Natalie is fit. I feel really sad as I think she is an amazing dancer who also can act the dance which not all the pros can do convincingly. She won Strictly with Harry and was second with Matt. Not a bad record for 3 years on strictly.( I am not counting last year) I for one shall miss her.”
“I had to smile at the various comments. Everyone is assuming that everything you read in the papers is true!!!!!!!! I think the story is reasonably accurate but did Aliona actually say all of that to a reporter or is the reporter merely saying what everyone believes? She was stitched up so that she would leave early. Everyone knows Natalie would not have been partnered with Tony. The production team wanted her out as early as possible. I would not be surprised if she disappears from the pro routines too once Natalie is fit. I feel really sad as I think she is an amazing dancer who also can act the dance which not all the pros can do convincingly. She won Strictly with Harry and was second with Matt. Not a bad record for 3 years on strictly.( I am not counting last year) I for one shall miss her.”
She retweeted both the radio times version and the mirror so she either said it or agrees with it
Originally Posted by kp2ni:
“I wasn't saying that Johnny and Aliona didn't get on just that it was funny that she was at the recording when Johnny went home but she didn't go up when the other dancers join at the end of the goodbye dance to say anyway, she wasn't featured on the goodbye message on ITT and wasn't at the Monday ITT interview which suggested rightly or wrongly that she wasn't playing the game & when it was apparently the producers decision over Johnny's choreography it wasn't right of Aliona to have a dig at another pro who was only there to cover and had never been on the show before
She retweeted both the radio times version and the mirror so she either said it or agrees with it”
“I wasn't saying that Johnny and Aliona didn't get on just that it was funny that she was at the recording when Johnny went home but she didn't go up when the other dancers join at the end of the goodbye dance to say anyway, she wasn't featured on the goodbye message on ITT and wasn't at the Monday ITT interview which suggested rightly or wrongly that she wasn't playing the game & when it was apparently the producers decision over Johnny's choreography it wasn't right of Aliona to have a dig at another pro who was only there to cover and had never been on the show before
She retweeted both the radio times version and the mirror so she either said it or agrees with it”
She probably does agree with it. I think most people would agree with it. Doesn't mean she actually said those things to a reporter.
why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that
Originally Posted by olivej:
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!”
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!”
And surely by the same token, others can say what they want regarding what she has said.
Quote:
“All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time”
“All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time”
All that she said?
What about this bit that she seems to have said then:
Quote:
“The pro dancer, brought back to replace injured Natalie Lowe, said: “I knew 100 per cent I’d be paired with Tony. It was so obvious to me.
“If the producers say they don’t want you on the show and then, because of circumstance, they need to ask you to come back then they are going to put you with who they think will lose the competition.
“If I got somebody who was favourite to do well, and had been in the show a long time, it would have made their decision to get rid of me look like a mistake”
“The pro dancer, brought back to replace injured Natalie Lowe, said: “I knew 100 per cent I’d be paired with Tony. It was so obvious to me.
“If the producers say they don’t want you on the show and then, because of circumstance, they need to ask you to come back then they are going to put you with who they think will lose the competition.
“If I got somebody who was favourite to do well, and had been in the show a long time, it would have made their decision to get rid of me look like a mistake”
Originally Posted by olivej:
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that”
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that”
I agree with you. Aliona has not bad mouthed Tony at all. I think people read into things that aren't there. I actually miss not seeing her. She is a really good dancer and she always gets the best out of her celebs. Tony learnt a lot for a 69 year old golfer IMO.
Originally Posted by olivej:
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that”
“why do so many people have a problem with Aliona speaking her mind?
It's always so taboo where she is concerned, it's a free country, she can say what she wants, when she wants!
All she has said is that she knew she would get partnered with Tony, she enjoyed teaching him and dancing with him and they quickly became friends and that she feels the judges didn't respect what a 69 year old achieved in a short space of time
No matter what Aliona does, in this forums eyes, it's wrong! It's not wrong when James speaks his mind or Brendan for that matter or any of the other pros, they don't trashed or bitched about quite like Aliona does
I actually agree with what she has said, she hasn't been nasty or vindictive, just spoke her mind and I don't see anything wrong with that”
Hear hear. I read the thing nervously because I didn't want to discover she had condemned the guy she had partnered... That would have told me my own human instincts are squiffy because I saw summat good and natural between them in the short while they were on the show. But she didn't. She defended him and their situation in the line-up well. I hope she's back. The show needs Pros who will be strongly on the side of their celebs. Plus I like the fact I don't mistake her for 'yet another blonde' in the Pro dances. She helps my eyesight.
Can't see anything wrong with what she said. Is it also wrong to say as I feel that the show is now totally scripted, that I see the deadening hand of the producers more than ever on everything, including obvious song choices, that the judges are totally neutered in regard to comments and scores because they are terrified another Sergeantgate will erupt, and that Dave will definitely be there until Wembley at least? Any spontaneity and surprise with this thing vanished a couple of years ago but it's certainly apparent to me.
I'm not sure why Aliona's miffed?
If she was convinced when asked to come back that they'd partner her with someone who wouldn't last long, she had the option to say no thanks. No one FORCED her to fill in.
Be grateful for the opportunity. Tons of dancers would kill for a gig on Strictly - however long or short.
If she was convinced when asked to come back that they'd partner her with someone who wouldn't last long, she had the option to say no thanks. No one FORCED her to fill in.
Be grateful for the opportunity. Tons of dancers would kill for a gig on Strictly - however long or short.
It's not the case you vanish forever anyway if you go out first week, aren't you contracted for the series? Admittedly you're not as visible on the pro dances as you are with a celeb, but you are there. Do you get paid the same regardless, I'm under the impression that the pros are, because they are working every week and also there is a chance a pro could get injured and one might have to step in like Brendan did once.
Yes I was thinking that nancy, pros are just a misstep away from an injury.
I agree that when you analyse what Aliona has actually said, there is nothing inherently controversial there that most of us hadn't already figured out. It doesn't seem very prudent, though.
I agree that when you analyse what Aliona has actually said, there is nothing inherently controversial there that most of us hadn't already figured out. It doesn't seem very prudent, though.
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